Battlefield 3 Premium. Look, I'm fine with all the bollocks that Premium does... except one. Premium-only servers. If you don't have Premium, you literally can't play on them. Aside from being a real dick move by itself, it's also not even mentioned anywhere on the game or even in the Premium description. All it says is "server queue priority" and there's a big ass difference between saying "this guy gets in before you, he's VIP" and "fuck off, VIP only"
Why do you hate EA?
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Yep. Hating a publisher of video games is rather silly when you compare them to other companies that engage in human rights abuses.Korolev said:
Cover based shooting could work very well if it were combined with a stealth element. Sections where you have to sneak past certain nercomorphs or avoid being detected so as not to set of an alarm. Thing such as that could work quite well.Aylaine said:I find that to be a welcome addition so long as it doesn't turn into Gears of War style. I very much like roaming and firing, but wouldn't mind more strategic encounters that needed cover based shooting to advance past. As for fighting other human soldiers, I feel that adds some realism to a series that has made you fight the same kind of enemies 2 times in a row. Where's all the soldiers, space terrorists, anti-religious fanatics and the like?
I don't mind human enemies either to be honest, in the second one it would have made sense to have them anyway, seeing as there human bad guys to begin with.
I think the issue people has is more that the series has changed direction in regards to how it plays, where the original was very much survival horror and it's becoming more action orientated. It doesn't make the games bad, but it is not why people got into the series.
I don't. I'm not a big fan of some of their business practices and decisions but none of it has irked me to the point of hate. I'd say I'm more annoyed and disappointed with EA. However, it won't stop me from buying a game they publish. Dead Space and NFS are games I'll very much enjoy.
Remember the Origin-Spyware fiasco? That's why. I can forgive day one DLC. I can forgive DRM. I can forgive running good devs into the ground, I can forgive streamlining.
What I cannot and will not forgive is spyware or anything related to breaching into someone's privacy. Whether it be digital of physical.
For that reason I do not buy anything related to an EA product. Mass Effect and Dragon Age comics, T-shirts, books, various paraphernalia, movies, games, condoms---all of that is off limits. I'd literally sooner shop-lift and risk jail time than give EA my money. That is how much I hate them.
What I cannot and will not forgive is spyware or anything related to breaching into someone's privacy. Whether it be digital of physical.
For that reason I do not buy anything related to an EA product. Mass Effect and Dragon Age comics, T-shirts, books, various paraphernalia, movies, games, condoms---all of that is off limits. I'd literally sooner shop-lift and risk jail time than give EA my money. That is how much I hate them.
The only reason EA hasn't been sued into kingdom come yet is because gamers are still (in spite of what they say) willing to put up with their garbage business practices in support of a handful of still-great games being marred by executive fiat.
Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't had a class action brought against them by gamers (not internally) - they've put spyware on their distribution system, tried to violate the rule of first sale, continually punished paying customers with DRM schemes, stuck game components on-disc and sold them piecemeal, made terrible lapses in PR judgement...I wouldn't be surprised if they fold within the next couple years.
Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't had a class action brought against them by gamers (not internally) - they've put spyware on their distribution system, tried to violate the rule of first sale, continually punished paying customers with DRM schemes, stuck game components on-disc and sold them piecemeal, made terrible lapses in PR judgement...I wouldn't be surprised if they fold within the next couple years.
I'll echo the point made by these fine gentlemen, but would also say I wouldn't grieve if Bobby Kotick was to disappear completely. Why?Bhaalspawn said:Korolev said:
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- On-disc/day one DLC
- Origin
- Holding the Dead Space franchise hostage
- Setting absurd expectations that they expect the developers to uphold (ties into above point)
- Bullfrog, Pandemic, Bioware etc. have been or are currently in the process of being fucked over by them
- "We'll stop making singleplayer games!!!!! BEST IDEA EVERRRRRR!!!!"
- No grasp of marketing or how to not come across as the stereotypical cabal of reality-distant suits who wipe their bums with hundred dollar bills
- Propagating the worst habits and features in games today (brown and grey gritty etc. zzzz) for a quick buck and generally seeming to stifle any kind of creativity both the developers and consumers might enjoy. Albeit, they alone cannot be blamed for this when jackfucks still buy their games, but honestly, I'd like them to try. There'd be a lot of money in making the video gaming equivalent of citizen kane or the godfather or Romeo and Juliet, ya know?
well how about the fact that they pretty much fucked the entire medal of honour series by making it current day.
the fact that they're completely against modding.
the fact that my copy of medal of honour airborne doesn't work, at all.
and of course hoarding brutal legend IP so that we now can never have brutal legend 2.
the fact that they're completely against modding.
the fact that my copy of medal of honour airborne doesn't work, at all.
and of course hoarding brutal legend IP so that we now can never have brutal legend 2.
All of a sudden their logo was stamped on all the games I was playing. It was disconcerting. Dragon Age, Mirror's Edge, Crysis. I really didn't like the required online accounts for DA:O/ME2.
And it seems like all these games I've listed above, which I liked -- the sequels just go downhill. Crysis 2 was a linear urban trek as opposed to the lush open Crysis 1. Dragon Age 2... we won't go there. I've heard ME2 wasn't as good as ME1, and thus I never got 3, which provoked this huge outrage. And I'm torn now between the desire for another Mirror's Edge and the desire for Mirror's Edge to not get a crappy sequel.
And it seems like all these games I've listed above, which I liked -- the sequels just go downhill. Crysis 2 was a linear urban trek as opposed to the lush open Crysis 1. Dragon Age 2... we won't go there. I've heard ME2 wasn't as good as ME1, and thus I never got 3, which provoked this huge outrage. And I'm torn now between the desire for another Mirror's Edge and the desire for Mirror's Edge to not get a crappy sequel.
Well, that's a false assumption if you're applying it to everyone. I don't really HATE EA. I just distrust them, due to their unscrupulous business practices.
Because they poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague on our houses!
But really I guess I don't HATE them. that's a pretty strong word all in all. I don't like their business practices. I question a lot of their decisions and a lot of what they say, such as them being happy about not making anymore single player games. They also seem to stifle some creativity. They just seem to be in it for the money.
But really I guess I don't HATE them. that's a pretty strong word all in all. I don't like their business practices. I question a lot of their decisions and a lot of what they say, such as them being happy about not making anymore single player games. They also seem to stifle some creativity. They just seem to be in it for the money.
I dont hate EA. I just hate the fact that they generally try and rip off the consumer as much as possible, doing everything they can to squeeze more dollars out of the buyers.
Although Ea's hilariously bad PR means i can often just laugh at the company.
Karma: Plus i hear that the staff at EA kills kittens.
Although Ea's hilariously bad PR means i can often just laugh at the company.
Karma: Plus i hear that the staff at EA kills kittens.
Because they are a poison to creativity in a creative industry.
As others have pointed out, this pales on the scale of hateability in the face of human rights issues, but within the game industry, they are the worst in the business, hands down. They aren't violating human rights, but they are violating consumer rights much of the time, and as a consumer, I won't stand for that.
As others have pointed out, this pales on the scale of hateability in the face of human rights issues, but within the game industry, they are the worst in the business, hands down. They aren't violating human rights, but they are violating consumer rights much of the time, and as a consumer, I won't stand for that.
I don't hate them. Hating a corporation for doing what every other video game corporation has done is ridiculous. Everything EA has done to piss people off has been done by Take-Two, THQ, Nintendo, Sony, MS, and Activision in almost equal or more measures with the exception of Origin(which is optional anyways).
I dislike a lot of the choices EA has made over the year, but then again, I have more justifiable anger towards many other companies.
I don't purchase many EA games so I don't take every chance I get to to a shot at EA over repetitive reasons like most people on this site. I like to make better use of my time. I don't take the decisions of video game companies personally, I'll criticize them when they fuck up, but that's about it.
I dislike a lot of the choices EA has made over the year, but then again, I have more justifiable anger towards many other companies.
I don't purchase many EA games so I don't take every chance I get to to a shot at EA over repetitive reasons like most people on this site. I like to make better use of my time. I don't take the decisions of video game companies personally, I'll criticize them when they fuck up, but that's about it.
Why I dislike EA is because their ideals run contrary to my ideals.
They try to force and control everything about their property in ways I find egregious. I understand not owning a product, but they have been championing this... 'you're renting our property for as long as we see fit' mentality. This 'You are under the subjection of our code, and if we even think you are going against it, we will terminate you' mentality.
I believe owning a copy isn't trying to own the ip. And I believe everyone at EA believes the same thing. If anyone from the Butcher who cuts their meat to the company produces their toilets came in saying that they weren't using the products in their homes as they intended and took away said products... they would sue. You purchase a product, you own the product. You don't own the idea. you don't own the ip. That's the same reason why we have copyrights. The extra steps that EA takes to try to have more control over their stupid games and force us to pay however or whatever the costs they decide borders on the ridiculous.
And 'stupid games' is my opinion, but is not out of anger. Their production has gone downhill. Maybe there are CEOs on the higher levels they do not game, but they try to bland all the games to the point that most are not satisfied. Point of fact, I have never heard of a gamer being happy for streamlining. Yet companies do it all the time.
And lastly, they do not seem to want to take risks any more. The EA touch saps games of originality.
The developers might be the mouth piece, but honestly, what person would say while they are still under the employ of other 'Hey, we liked our original image, but the upper ups said we had to change it.'
Overstrike [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC-X_2rgApw&feature=related] vs Fuse [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERz8e3rxU4&feature=plcp], anyone?
They try to force and control everything about their property in ways I find egregious. I understand not owning a product, but they have been championing this... 'you're renting our property for as long as we see fit' mentality. This 'You are under the subjection of our code, and if we even think you are going against it, we will terminate you' mentality.
I believe owning a copy isn't trying to own the ip. And I believe everyone at EA believes the same thing. If anyone from the Butcher who cuts their meat to the company produces their toilets came in saying that they weren't using the products in their homes as they intended and took away said products... they would sue. You purchase a product, you own the product. You don't own the idea. you don't own the ip. That's the same reason why we have copyrights. The extra steps that EA takes to try to have more control over their stupid games and force us to pay however or whatever the costs they decide borders on the ridiculous.
And 'stupid games' is my opinion, but is not out of anger. Their production has gone downhill. Maybe there are CEOs on the higher levels they do not game, but they try to bland all the games to the point that most are not satisfied. Point of fact, I have never heard of a gamer being happy for streamlining. Yet companies do it all the time.
And lastly, they do not seem to want to take risks any more. The EA touch saps games of originality.
The developers might be the mouth piece, but honestly, what person would say while they are still under the employ of other 'Hey, we liked our original image, but the upper ups said we had to change it.'
Overstrike [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC-X_2rgApw&feature=related] vs Fuse [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERz8e3rxU4&feature=plcp], anyone?
Wait, isn't Origin now bundled with all new EA products like Steam/Steamworks?AzrealMaximillion said:
Hate is a strong word, dislike feels more appropriate.
When it comes to business practices EA takes the cake for the worst. Day 1 DLC, that conference where they talked about having to pay to reload(words cannot express...), Online Passes, Bad PR, Buying out competition, Milking consumers, said competition bought is run to the ground, Origins ALWAYS. WATCHING. YOU., banning players for making BF3 more colorful, saying single player doesn't sell, an so on and so on.
But the worst part is, they are self aware of their own evil... its like they're run by Cobra Commander and the executive manager is frikin Starscream.
When it comes to business practices EA takes the cake for the worst. Day 1 DLC, that conference where they talked about having to pay to reload(words cannot express...), Online Passes, Bad PR, Buying out competition, Milking consumers, said competition bought is run to the ground, Origins ALWAYS. WATCHING. YOU., banning players for making BF3 more colorful, saying single player doesn't sell, an so on and so on.
But the worst part is, they are self aware of their own evil... its like they're run by Cobra Commander and the executive manager is frikin Starscream.