you haven't seen Blade have you? this was one of the plots of Blade, tho a bit more advanced but still taken from BladeGrinningManiac said:
Why does an unoriginal storyline make you not enjoy something?
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I think it all comes down to presentation.
I haven't seen an original film in...well, ever, really.
Even the greats share themes and characterizations from other films, or books, or plays.
But that's not bad. It's all in the presentation. A tired theme or idea can be made fresh with the right presentation. If you can present it well, then it even old, worn ideas can be renewed as something fun, awesome, and/or entertaining.
I haven't seen an original film in...well, ever, really.
Even the greats share themes and characterizations from other films, or books, or plays.
But that's not bad. It's all in the presentation. A tired theme or idea can be made fresh with the right presentation. If you can present it well, then it even old, worn ideas can be renewed as something fun, awesome, and/or entertaining.
It bothers me if the plot stands out as being derivative. For instance, if I'm watching something and notice a reference to something else, I'll think "cool, I know what they're referencing". But if I'm noticing this every 2 minutes, then I get the feeling they didn't have any original ideas and the story is just a mash-up of other people's original ideas. A good story should feel original, even if it isn't.
I hate unorginal stories cus you know what is gonna happen even now the twist aren't that big
take for instance The Others is a 6 sense rip off instead of Grace leaving to help other kids from becomeing the next Sora she bunkers down though a few years later and they demolish the house would have made me laugh would have taken from the "serious drama" still would have made me give it more then a star and one last thing Horror movies a good one might be the killer is going to going to hunt someone and then they accidentally get them selves killed 2 examples The cliche cheerleader falls down the stairs running for the guy and snaps her neck second a swimmer runs from jason and gets to the lake starts to swim halfway out Heart attack drowns Ironinc ( i know not what i speak but thier you go)
take for instance The Others is a 6 sense rip off instead of Grace leaving to help other kids from becomeing the next Sora she bunkers down though a few years later and they demolish the house would have made me laugh would have taken from the "serious drama" still would have made me give it more then a star and one last thing Horror movies a good one might be the killer is going to going to hunt someone and then they accidentally get them selves killed 2 examples The cliche cheerleader falls down the stairs running for the guy and snaps her neck second a swimmer runs from jason and gets to the lake starts to swim halfway out Heart attack drowns Ironinc ( i know not what i speak but thier you go)
I have to back that up. I don't have a problem with a fundamental lack of originality (storytelling is heavily reliant on formula in most cases anyway) as long as there's something fresh that's of merit.Baby Tea said:
A proven narrative framework can still be effective, it's just a matter of transcending its inspiration, or at least giving it a different appearance to avoid accusations of a derivative nature.
This desire to acknowledge, or even mock borrowed story elements/structure that we recognise is a peculiar trait of our media saturated culture. We draw parallels between media items we know of, and for some of us it's a little distracting but some seem to be outraged by it. Some mocked the Star Wars visual borrowings of the recent Dr Who specials, ignoring the timeline of explicit influences on that franchise like Kurosawa, the old westerns he mimicked, and of course, the monomyth. Of course, some similarities are easier to spot than others due to the prominence of the source.
So, in answer to the OP's question, I don't know, or even understand why people have that reaction. Plot alone isn't the only worthwhile factor of a piece of media,and great things can be done within well-worn structures. Maybe it's just a case of the product being arresting enough to distract from a fundamental lack of originality.
I liked Eragon. Not the movie, but the book. Because it was Star Wars meets Lord of the Rings. I was asking for that for years and finally they gave it to me.
As for unoriginality. I welcome it these days because then I get to rightfully mock it. Unless it's that remake of Friday the 13th, that was truly horrible...
As for unoriginality. I welcome it these days because then I get to rightfully mock it. Unless it's that remake of Friday the 13th, that was truly horrible...
Specifically? I think just about everyone here said it better than I could. Its all in the presentation. Is it new? Fresh? or have we seen all before done more competently, and will we see it again? Its what separates one version from others. The story can be remarkably-simple 1 sentence story-but be unbelievably fun-and something no one has ever seen can be awful.
For me personally,Avatar to me was gorgeous-but thats about it.
For me personally,Avatar to me was gorgeous-but thats about it.
Vampires are not a plot.Erana said:
The plot is the story, which, if you've been paying attention, concerns the ORIGINAL and FRESH idea of a world where the vampires have already won
You have also yet to answer me on the Shakespeare thing
Story is what entertains me. Amazing CGI does not make up for paper thin characters and a cliche plot.
Storylines repeat all the time. Your skill as a screenwriter is only shown when you can take the typical story and make something amazing out of it. For example, Lord of the Rings and Star Wars have the same basic story elements, but use them to create two different movies.
Storylines repeat all the time. Your skill as a screenwriter is only shown when you can take the typical story and make something amazing out of it. For example, Lord of the Rings and Star Wars have the same basic story elements, but use them to create two different movies.
Imagine that someone tells you a joke and you think it's funny. Then they tell you the same exact joke 10 times in a row. It might be funny the next time or even the third time, but the more times you hear it, the more you get sick of it. If you've already seen something with the same basic plot it's predictable and you're basically tired of hearing it.