Why does everybody hate 3D?

Dindril

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It seems to me that most people who hate 3D are either viewing it wrong, they have an inaccurate perception of what it is, or are just cheap.

As far as I see it, 3D is an innovation in the same sense as higher resolution, higher frame rate, and better sound quality. It's an aesthetic enhancement, used to make a game look better, and, more like real life. (For those who don't know: 3D is done by making each of your eyes see slightly different images, just as your eyes normally do by being side by side, thus allowing you to perceive depth) It gives things more of a physical presence, even if it's only through sight.
I don't believe that cost is too huge of a problem, as when HDTVs became commercially available, they where also extremely expensive.

The only problems it should face are likely: Everybody's perception that it's all just a silly gimmick, as it was used before, and is still sometimes now; Developers and film-makers using it as a gimmick; and potentially the economy...

It just seems that if film-makers properly film their movies in 3D (Though, to be honest, films work worse than most games, because the constant changing in focal point between shots is what gives people headaches), and developers make their games knowing that it can, and likely will be played in 3D, it should hopefully work it's way into mainstream the same way HD has.

EDIT: I'd like to emphesize to all those who point out how unnecessary it is, that an HDTV, or home theater system is also generally unnecessary in the long run, (That is, until developers considered it normal, and made all text tiny, and as for surround, $10 headphones work fine). Who is it that you complain about 3D, but are using all of this other tech... so far, from what I've read of replies, I conclude that it's one of those general, undeserved hatreds, like english dubbed anime.

The only thing I really agree with, is glasses, but as tech gets better, those should too, and become more comfortable for everyone... either that, or family entertainment will wither because everybody just gets personal 3D devices, like the 3DS.

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SL33TBL1ND

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I don't hate it, it's just a cost/benefit analysis of 3D does not justify using it.
 

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Well, I haven't had any experience with the newer versions of 3D, so I can't speak to them, but it never seems to work right for me. I guess part of it is that I wear glasses, and they get in the way. That and it's a price hike for what I see as an unnecessary perk.
 

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i love 3D! i believe that any director willing to shell out the cash for those fancy schmany 3D cameras are doing us a favor by providing two versions of the same film. i think even more evenly paced movies like romance films and slow-boil dramas should ALL have the 3-D option, though of course this is financially impossible. a man can dream!
 

Count Igor

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It's the three U's, lad.

Unnecessary - We've survived with out it, and so far whatever we have is pretty damn awesome. So it isn't needed like an upgraded graphics chip, it's just extra for some people. Some.
Unwanted - Most people don't actually want to change the norm today. Because of this, more people give in to peer pressure, or see it solely from the 'Against' side and don't give it a chance.
Unwieldly - The glasses that come with it are really annoying. If they get rid of them (If they haven't already) then they stand a much better chance. Coming from a guy with glasses, I deliberately DON'T see something in 3D.
 

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I just find it annoying. I don't want to see it in 3D, 2D works fine, that doesn't give me headaches and it has never required some stupid glasses.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 

JediMB

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Fear of change and fear of expenses, coupled with shortsightedness regarding the feature's potential to become less cumbersome in a near future.

Let's all go back to black and white 50's television sets.
 

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Count Igor said:
It's the three U's, lad.

Unnecessary - We've survived with out it, and so far whatever we have is pretty damn awesome. So it isn't needed like an upgraded graphics chip, it's just extra for some people. Some.
Unwanted - Most people don't actually want to change the norm today. Because of this, more people give in to peer pressure, or see it solely from the 'Against' side and don't give it a chance.
Unwieldly - The glasses that come with it are really annoying. If they get rid of them (If they haven't already) then they stand a much better chance. Coming from a guy with glasses, I deliberately DON'T see something in 3D.
This. And so much more.

For me, it's just not a good return on my investment. I saw Avatar in 3D. After spending the first 20 minutes picking out the cool 3d bits, I realized that I was missing out on the actual movie. So I started ignoring the 3D and enjoyed a really awesome film. I saw it again in 2D. Guess what. It was just as good. I was missing nothing by watching it in 2D.

90% of films are completely wasted on 3D. Someone suggested watching a Romantic comedy in 3D. Why? What would that add? I guess Mary's hair would actually stick out at you, but that's not a real incentive for me.

Now, I'm not saying 3D doesn't have its place. And that place is bad horror movies. The extra scare of the pointy things trying to actually poke out your eyes, will save them. Seriously, My Bloody Valentine was a terrible movie on it's own, but in 3D, at least I didn't go demand my money back.

Basically, good movies will do fine without it. Bad movies need it. Maybe Hollywood is in trouble and this is their way of calling out for help.
 

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I find the 3d elements to be distracting, like quick time events in video games. When you got something flying at your face, yeah it's cool, but you completely miss the actual action/story that's going on while this big object is flying in your face.

Now if a movie or show was shot specifically for 3D with no alternations for 2d or such, I can see it blending well. But most of these bloody 3D elements are just tacky tidbits jammed together to provide a moment of "Oh it's coming at me/sitting in the room with me."

Also the headsets are wonky, the price is outrageous, and you can't watch them without suffering from early cataracts without the headsets.

Humans have natural 3D vision, called depth perception, if they'd make a venue that uses that, and not these specially made glasses just to render them in your vision properly, then I'd be more willing to purchase it.
 

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*Watching something in 3D too long hurts my eyes and gives me headaches
*People can't always get the newest TVs until prices start to drop and 3D TVs won't do that for awhile.
*People get tired and can't financially keep up with the need to switch their barely old technology for newer one every few years.
*I think 3D just looks like someone animated a pop up book. The effects just look like there are paper cutouts coming at me. (or maybe I haven't really seen a good 3D film)
*I don't feel like paying the extra money to make things feel like they are coming at me
*I don't like how in movies, that are 3D, they seem to always put pointless scenes in just for the 3D effect and overuse them. Such as a sword swinging at the screen or an arm reaching out at you.
*I wear $10 sun glasses to protect my sight from UV rays because I WANT to and I don't like wearing them. Why would I like to constantly HAVE to wear $40+ glasses to enjoy a movie or game
*They tried 3D before and I found it entertaining as a child but don't anymore
*If your glasses are the colored ones then everything takes on a weird hue. If they are clear then everything that isn't 3D in your field of view becomes fuzzy.

to sum up I don't mind 3D it has its moments, but with the eyestrain, headaches, price, I don't think today's 3D is for me. Now I wouldn't mind it when it leads to full immersion experiences such as, and forgive my nerdiness, a holodeck. If that were to come about then count me in. But until then I can't really be immersed because there is always a nagging feeling in my mind that these 3D projected 2D images aren't real. Or why not get 3D tech that goes depth into the TV as if I was just watching from a window freshly cleaned by windex?
 

Dindril

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I know 3D is entirely unnecessary, but it does add to it, usually subconsciously. Basically, it's like the difference between going somewhere, or seeing a picture/video of it. I know this comparison doesn't entirely fit, as your still lacking in all of the other senses, but by seeing something with depth, it makes it seems much more real than seeing a flat image.

I would not use this example, but I've found it to be rather true. I recently went to my first live concert (that wasn't something by the school). As a large event, they had screens set up, that used feeds from camera's, so no matter where you are, you can see. I found it to be rather uninteresting while sitting, watching the screen, but the moment I was able to see the actual band, it was outstandingly more interesting.

Not sure how much that actually would apply to 3D gaming, but it gave me a new insight.

Also, because I like to correct things that I find annoying. true 3D is not when things pop out at you, True 3D is when there is depth beyond the screen.
 

Blood Countess

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most people covered it.It's a sad gimmick to make extra money off of you and nothing more.It's fine in moderation but that isn't the case here anymore
 

Dindril

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gbemery said:
*I think 3D just looks like someone animated a pop up book. The effects just look like there are paper cutouts coming at me. (or maybe I haven't really seen a good 3D film)
I TOTALLY agree with this. This is not 3D (or... what 3D should be), and is not something you would likely get out of a game (Unless that game is like disgaea). My local Costco started to display 3DTVs, and I found it aggravating that the only 3D content that had to showcase them with, was like this. Nothing was 3D, it was just basically paper cut outs of characters and backgrounds, placed at different depths.
 

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Count Igor said:
It's the three U's, lad.

Unnecessary - We've survived with out it, and so far whatever we have is pretty damn awesome. So it isn't needed like an upgraded graphics chip, it's just extra for some people. Some.
Unwanted - Most people don't actually want to change the norm today. Because of this, more people give in to peer pressure, or see it solely from the 'Against' side and don't give it a chance.
Unwieldly - The glasses that come with it are really annoying. If they get rid of them (If they haven't already) then they stand a much better chance. Coming from a guy with glasses, I deliberately DON'T see something in 3D.
Well, pretty much exactly this. I too wear glasses and it's seriously just a pain in the arse. The other reason I dislike it is that it seems to be taking over in a sense, I've yet to see a movie commercial without the mention of "COMING OUT IN 333DDD OMGGGG".
 

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I dont hate the tool I just hate how its used. You know whats sad? When films like Jackass actually use 3D better than supposedly more respectable films like Tim Burton's Wonderland. Most times, its just comes of clunky and really bad. If your going to use this technology than at least make it an integral part of the filming process. Use it to make immersion not just a quick buck.

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Kaboose the Moose

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I don't hate the technology. It just needs to be refined to become..more user friendly. The Nintendo 3DS is a step in the right direction for example, because if there is on thing I hate about 3D movies its those fecking glasses! They annoy the bollocks out if me but if it can be made native through the screen then Fan-tas-tic! I'd watch 3D movies all the time, because (when done right) they can be quite cool

The only point, that is not technology based, that I am unhappy about..is the price. The rent ticketing price is too damn high for the inconvenience that is modern day 3D. Once again, it needs not to be a burden on the viewer.
 

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3D is a gimmick. it has never been used in any way that isnt a gimmick. it is technology that goes nowhere. there is nothing to be gained from it, nowhere to go with it. it is pointlessness incarnate. like kinect and motion-sensor controls; however impressive the technology, it is counter-productive to its own medium; anything done with it that isnt a gimmick can be done much easier with a normal controller.

HD enhances visual quality. resolution, color; all that good stuff. it goes somewhere, it improves the visual experience in a way the whole industry can benefit from. 3D simply changes it; quite pointlessly. in every 3D film ive seen it has added nothing over 2D, other then annoying glasses, a headache, and more expensive ticket of course. they dont even try to do anything stupid with it; a drop of blood or character will pop out a little bit more in a way that just looks unrealistic. it is universally detrimental. its like nutritionally empty food that tastes a little like tofu; youve little to lose, but nothing to gain. there is absolutely no reason to have anything to do with it. and yet every film feels the need to do it. and you keep paying for it.

its also about 50 years old, going back to the fucking 1890s if you want to be technical, so anyone touting this as anything close to 'innovation' needs a serious history lesson. 3D was fine when it was a harmless gimmick, but there is a disturbing trend in media of gimmicks becoming the 'in' thing, and frankly it annoys me. 3D would be just fine if the entire american industry of everything wasnt trying to shove it down my throat. this is especially concerning for video games, which for far too long as it is have focused on graphics and atmosphere so much that actual gameplay innovation is often neglected.

this trend needs to fucking reverse. we are at the point where Universal theme park shows are perverting the entirety of visual media. the game industry needs to start focusing on the actual fucking game part again before it does anything else. then, and only then, might 3D reclaim its status as stupid gimmick, rather than culturally poisonous gimmick.
 

Flare Phoenix

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It's kind of rude to say that everyone who hates 3D are either wrong or just too cheap to pay for it. I don't hate 3D personally, but it is not something that should be included in every movie or game.