Why does everybody hate 3D?

[Casual Shinji]

The only way for 3D to work is if they create holographic dome-televisions.

But what I really hate about it is how it makes the visuals fuzzy-looking. Watching Avatar or How To Train Your Dragon on blu-ray, you could tell that something was a little off in the sharpness of the screen. HD added something because it made the visuals sharper and more detailed. 3D does the complete opposite for the sake of a headache inducing gimmick.

The human brain is perfectly capable of automatically deciphering distance within a 2D image, especially if that image is in motion. Adding 3D serves absolutely no purpose at all except distracting the audience with shiny keys.

 

[Daedalus1942]

It seems to me that most people who hate 3D are either viewing it wrong, they have an inaccurate perception of what it is, or are just cheap.

As far as I see it, 3D is an innovation in the same sense as higher resolution, higher frame rate, and better sound quality. It's an aesthetic enhancement, used to make a game look better, and, more like real life. (For those who don't know: 3D is done by making each of your eyes see slightly different images, just as your eyes normally do by being side by side, thus allowing you to perceive depth) It gives things more of a physical presence, even if it's only through sight.
I don't believe that cost is too huge of a problem, as when HDTVs became commercially available, they where also extremely expensive.

The only problems it should face are likely: Everybody's perception that it's all just a silly gimmick, as it was used before, and is still sometimes now; Developers and film-makers using it as a gimmick; and potentially the economy...

It just seems that if film-makers properly film their movies in 3D (Though, to be honest, films work worse than most games, because the constant changing in focal point between shots is what gives people headaches), and developers make their games knowing that it can, and likely will be played in 3D, it should hopefully work it's way into mainstream the same way HD has.

EDIT: I'd like to emphesize to all those who point out how unnecessary it is, that an HDTV, or home theater system is also generally unnecessary in the long run, (That is, until developers considered it normal, and made all text tiny, and as for surround, $10 headphones work fine). Who is it that you complain about 3D, but are using all of this other tech... so far, from what I've read of replies, I conclude that it's one of those general, undeserved hatreds, like english dubbed anime.

The only thing I really agree with, is glasses, but as tech gets better, those should too, and become more comfortable for everyone... either that, or family entertainment will wither because everybody just gets personal 3D devices, like the 3DS.

NOW TO POST EDIT WITHOUT READING IT FIRST!

My main gripe with 3d is that i literally can not view it when it comes to 3d pc gaming.
I'm fine in big cinemas, but i have a lazy eye which prevents me actually being able to see the 3d while gaming, so it makes me sad. That being said I'm stoked for the 3DS and can't wait til it's released.
-Tabs<3-

 

[elcamino41383]

Meh, I don't hate it, I just think it's unnecessary.

I agree with how most people are saying it's not so good and etc, but this is exactly what I was going to say. For me it really just doesn't add anything extra.

 

[unacomn]

Reasons why I hate 3D:

-It costs a lot to have a 3D capable home system
-Current 3D implementation methods give me eye sores and headaches
-Much like it did in the anaglyph movie days, it encourages every bad, and very bad movie to make the 3D leap
-In regards to games, current 3D adds nothing to the experience except for pain

Maybe one day when 3D tech will come in the form of a holographic display(still in development), then yes, it would be great. Now, no.

 

[Byere]

I hate it because all it adds is a little depth to scenes that, in a movie (a video shown on a large flat screen), is unnecessary. I, and many others, have good enough perception to see that a building in the background is in the background and not about to have the character/item that the scene is about smash into it.

Bring back the old style 3D... the red/green glasses. I remember those times and I remember actually percieving objects coming out of the screen at me.

 

[floppylobster]

(1) I have a pinched optic nerve on my left eye so my eyes have different focal lengths. I watched the whole of Avatar as a red blur. I might be in a minority but 3D doesn't work for everyone.

(2) They are pushing 3D hard because of its anti-piracy possibilities. Sony are already making glasses that only work with certain TVs and other people have made glasses that only work with certain films. That's not a good reason to push a technology. It should come because people want it.

You may say we see in 3D, but we don't really. The wow factor of 3D movies comes from your brain noticing a 3D object where it perceives a flat 2D screen. If 3D was actually producing images as we perceive the world in real life then we'd all be at the theatre reaching out to the stage going "Woah, it looks so real". But we don't because real world experience and 3D images are completely different.

I wouldn't even say that 3D is closer to the way we see the world than 2D, because a lot of perception comes to us through memory, and memory is often sketchy and compressed. Much like a (2D) film frame - we only see certain parts of the image we are recalling. And if we want our film to be more lifelike then why don't we just dispense with editing and watch long shots of people driving to the locations of the action?

(3) English dubbed Anime is like having a different director come in and direct the actors in a scene. Occasionally, occasionally, some of it works, but I have never seen an English dubbed Anime that captures the exact spirit that the original director envisioned. Perhaps if you don't speak Japanese you don't notice the difference but the hatred is not undeserved. See My Neighbour Totoro for a classic example. In the more recent dub they altered a key actresses voice to about 2-3 years above her intended range. Worst of all they overdubbed the animalistic growls of Totoro himself, altering his sound from a friendly yawn type growl, to something more like a bear's roar.

(4) I'm not cheap. I'm just broke.

 

[TastySurvivor]

Well did you mean 3D gaming or movies? 3D games I dont have a problem with. It doesnt cost me extra to have it enabled (ie 60 for the regular and 70 for a 3D version) and I can play it in regular whenever I want. 3D movies I dont like, especially in the theater. First, you cant watch the movie in 2D even if you wanted to. Second, most movie companies add the 3D effects after the movie is completed, which look like crap. I watched half of the 3D Resident Evil without my glasses, and it looked the same as a 2D movie. Did I need to pay extra to get 20 min of blurriness that they call 3D effects? No. I could have downloaded a cam rip for free and gotten the same effect.

 

[teebeeohh]

the past 12 month 3d has been stuffed into movies just to raise the price and that sucks.
and the only movies i saw so far that did use it well were avatar and maybe piranha.
as for games:
i have absolutly no experience in this regard but i am quite looking forward to the 3ds and am rather excited about the possibilities 3D may have on gameplay. until then it's just a gimmick that i may try when somebody i know buys a 3d tv

 

[Jacob.pederson]

*I think 3D just looks like someone animated a pop up book. The effects just look like there are paper cutouts coming at me. (or maybe I haven't really seen a good 3D film)

I TOTALLY agree with this. This is not 3D (or... what 3D should be), and is not something you would likely get out of a game (Unless that game is like disgaea). My local Costco started to display 3DTVs, and I found it aggravating that the only 3D content that had to showcase them with, was like this. Nothing was 3D, it was just basically paper cut outs of characters and backgrounds, placed at different depths.

When you see something like this, with no roundness in the stereoscopy, what you are looking at is a 3D conversion. Unfortunately for the tech's future, 80% of the 3D content out there is conversion. In my opinion, this is why everyone hates 3D . . . because they haven't actually seen any

 

[Arehexes]

First off 3D isn't new, I still have my cheapo Red/Cyan glasses used for 3D comics when I was a kid(And still can't get it to work right for me). Second I never saw a 3D movie or game that had it as a core experience (besides the one movie at Bushe Garden which I barely noticed and I had to wear them over my glasses). And third a lot of 3D is being added for no reason, people on some sites were upset that LBP2 wasn't getting 3D. I am lost if you can't use the tech as a core function why bother? If there was a puzzle game that used the 3D that would be awesome, but a 2D platformer in 3D...not so much. Anyway I don't hate the idea, I just haven't seen it used in a way that can make it a core experience, not just pretty fluff.

 

[SmokingMirrors]

Films advertised as being in 3D have been around since... heck, since the dawn of modern cinema. Its nothing new, as they've attempted it time and again over many a years. But the thing is; It hasn't worked back then, and won't now- why? because you simply cannot accurately convey a three dimensional image on a two dimensional medium no matter what, because the mind will still perceive it as the latter.

 

[electric discordian]

Ironically for someone on an internet game site I hate technology, I hate change and I hate gimmicks! So why do I like 3D? It's like anything it's the first steps in the development of the future, I remember when Jaws 3 was in 3D and it was pretty awesome, the glasses today are much better than what you had to wear in the "olden days"

they look like sunglasses which is better than trying to balance a piece of cardboard on your nose with two sweet wrappers stretched across each eye.

They should make everything in 2 and 3D as standard so you have the choice as I have several friends who hate 3D because "it's only there to fight piracy and make money!" Of course god forbid the film industry actually does something to make their films more entertaining and different.

After all putting talking into films was only done because it was easier to pirate silent movies and they couldn't market the soundtrack, every technological advance is only done to make money and ultimately not for the advancement of a medium.

Arguing that 3D is discriminatory against the short sighted is like saying talking pictures discriminate against the deaf and films themselves are against the human rights of the blind!

Also no to conversion, that is like the colourisation of Black and White films!

 

[lolmynamewastaken]

it doesn't work on me and just makes my eyes stream for the whole time, i'd say thats a pretty good reason to hate it...

 

[Fetzenfisch]

Wow, tsbeen a long time till the last "why the hate" thread. So i might answer to this one again.
I like wathcing a 3D movie. If its a good movie that uses 3D as extra support and little bonus effect.
If the only reason to watch a movie obviously would be that its 3D, i'd pass.

Good example for a well done one is "Up". They did a great job there.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

Because it's being over-used these days.
Every second movie these days seems to use it.

 

[CLEVERSLEAZOID]

Who is it that you complain about 3D, but are using all of this other tech... so far, from what I've read of replies, I conclude that it's one of those general, undeserved hatreds, like english dubbed anime.

I'm not a massive fan of 3D and I see it is a gimmick. I have a HDTV. HD gives me clearer screen quality and images. I see all this motion capturing hardware [Move/Kinect] as a gimmick.

I am allowed to just dislike something, or must I give a valid reason? Oh yes, the valid reason being everyone is different and have different takes and viewpoints on things.

That does not give you the place to say anyone who doesn't like these things is merely 'jumping on a bandwagon' of 'undeserving hatred'

srsly, grow up.

Also, I agree with this:

3D has been around for FORTY YEARS. They only use it now to try to impress people who watched avatar and as an excuse to take more of your money for almost no improvement. That is the only reason people are including it in everything. If 3D was truly an advancement it would have been commonplace by now. People are just beating a dead horse. 3D is a gimmick because it was ALWAYS A GIMMICK. 3D comes in FADS and if it hasn't established itself in the forty years of its existence then it never will. It comes and goes, the same as the last forty years. 3D isn't pissing people off, its the fact these avatar FANTARDS forcing 3D down people's throats. People FORCING 3D will only make people hate 3D.

Although I changed Avatar wannabies to Avatar fantards. Because I think the people who loved Avatar that much more because it was in 3D must be 'tarded. I also don't see them painting themselves blue.

 

[captaincabbage]

Meh, I don't hate it, I just think it's unnecessary.

I agree with how most people are saying it's not so good and etc, but this is exactly what I was going to say. For me it really just doesn't add anything extra.

The only thing it adds to my viewing experience is a headache.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I have a medical excuse for hating it. Stupid brain unable to process images correctly.

 

[Voodoomancer]

Funny how many, many of the arguments against 3D in this thread point out stuff like tacked on 3D and headaches and stuff. When done Properly, 3D can/could make a movie or a game absolutely stunning visually, and incredibly immersive. 3D for the sake of 3D (examples: Clash of the titans, every time they pull a "poking you in the face" scene) Is horrible, but when done well, like in Avatar, it's awesome.

It's Just A Gimmick? You could say that about making movies in color, too. Gimmicks can become improvements.

 

[Random Argument Man]

It depends on how it is used.

If it's only a few objects throwed out of the screen, that's cheap 3D.

If it's to enchance the environment, that's good 3D. I once watched a documentary about undersea creatures at a 3D theatre. I really felt that I was in the ocean. That's good use of 3D and it makes the film better for it.