Why does everyone hate Halo?

jaketheripper

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pletschee said:
Hey everyone, this is my first post on the escapist forums but I've been reading a few forums and it came to my mind, why does everyone hate Halo? I don't see anything wrong with it. Bungie has made a whole new universe that has spawned books, games and even machinima(which was good up to around last year, now we all wait for Rooster Teeth to make the next season of RvB). So this is my question, why do you dislike/like Halo?

Edit: So from what Im gathering it's...

1. People want to be cool and go against something popular

2. People play for 5 minutes, don't do well= hate
ive been playing it for ten years, i can be fucking tired of it if i want to :p
 

Dusk17

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The master chief is not meant to be a good character, he is a blank slate. He is meant to be [insert name here]. I would like to see him develop more as a character but i know they wont.
 

Netrigan

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SEPECAT said:
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I'd say the Halo hate has died down in recent years, it's all about the CoD hate these days.
I dunno, not on the Escapist, at least. I see so much more Halo hate than CoD. I also see people actually say nice things about CoD in threads that aren't about CoD; whereas I only ever see someone say something nice about Halo in a "Why do you hate Halo?" thread.
Since Black Ops was released, there's probably been a couple of anti-CoD threads every week. Sometimes they're disguised with someone starting a thread like "I'm tired of killing Russians and terrorists in every game". I've seen two or three of them on the front page quite often.

Mind you, every time someone starts a thread like "Worst Plots In Video Games", it's usually race between someone saying "Halo" and some Halo Fan saying "I'll punch the first person who says 'Halo' in the face".

The Valve fanboys at least wait until someone inevitably says "Half-Life" before launching their assault :)

Also, every time there's a thread about the best games or plots, Halo is one of the most frequently named games. Praise for the game is all over the place.
 

jenerz

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I think Halo is seriously over hyped, I played Halo 3 all the way through and thought it was OK. ODST I stopped player after the first mission, Reach I finished the first 4 levels and thought the gameplay was much better than 3 but the game still wasn't that great to me. I can sort of see why some people love it and some people hate it, Personally I don't think it's a bad game but neither is it a good game. The story was boring and the game overall just felt really childish.
 

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I have played Halo before and the reason I don't like it is because it's bland. It's not bad, but it's not great either. It does very little to immerse me into the experience. I just feel like an unwelcome guest in Master Chief's head. There nothing that happens in the game that stands out to me. While CoD: Modern Warfare, for example, knocks me on my ass when a nuclear bomb blew up in my face and I pulled my broken body out from the twisted wreckage of an airplane. When I look around I see nothing but absolute carnage, and the sun is blotted out from the sky. As I try to walk, I fall to my knees, and began to crawl before the ultimately radiation kills me. This kind of impact is what Halo lacks.

The single-player campaign is also too short. I'm one of those people who does not like to play multi-player games, so a game has to stand out, in my eyes, more on the single player content before I would even touch multi-player. It falls flat on it's face in single player mode. The story is unimpressive. The vehicles handle worse than the ones in Battlefield: Bad Company, and that's saying something. If you really think about it Cortana is the superior character. She can take over the weapons system of an entire city without anyone setting foot in it. She can remotely hack into any system she wants without trying, and could probably win the war just by herself. When it comes down to it, Master Chief is just a meat head grunt that is risking his life for no apparent reason. This begs the question: why does she need Master Chief at all?

I do have to admit though that I did have some entertainment when I kept running over my co-op partner in campaign mode. The first few times it was by accident and then I started doing it to piss him off. I admit it was awesome when I did manage to squeeze a GHOST into a building through a small door (challenging but not impossible) and kill everything inside. However, when you get down to it Halo is about space marines fighting aliens. It was been done before. It was not the first nor will it be the last. I have seen games that have done a better job at this genre such as Mass Effect.

tl;dr: watch Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation review of Halo 3: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8-Halo-3 This sums up my feelings.
 

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pletschee said:
Hey everyone, this is my first post on the escapist forums but I've been reading a few forums and it came to my mind, why does everyone hate Halo? I don't see anything wrong with it. Bungie has made a whole new universe that has spawned books, games and even machinima(which was good up to around last year, now we all wait for Rooster Teeth to make the next season of RvB). So this is my question, why do you dislike/like Halo?

Edit: So from what Im gathering it's...

1. People want to be cool and go against something popular

2. People play for 5 minutes, don't do well= hate
Not even close. I played the single player of Halo 1-3. I didn't like the story or the way it played at Halo: CE. My friends kept telling me to just give it another chance. I played Halo 2, the multiplayer is pretty fun, but I still find the single player lacking and not really worth the time or effort. It just wasn't entertaining to me. Once again, I was told to not be close minded and give Halo 3 a chance. So I did. The multiplayer got worse, imho, and the single player jumped dozens of sharks. I can only recount one thing that happened that I actually liked. Around that point I decided I was done with the series no matter what my friends tell me, as they caused me to blow about $180.

So, as it turns out, people can just not like a game because it's not for them. It isn't someone trying to go against what's popular. It isn't that they just suck at the game. It is that the game just isn't entertaining to them.

Is that so hard to understand?
 

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Cryo84R said:
Because it's popular. Like Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, Apple, and well, you name it and they hate it!

Haters gonna hate.
..still - there are popular things that are not solely sold on image and PR blurbs over substance.
 

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OhJohnNo said:
- It's often blamed for "making hte FPS genre go downhill". I think this one deserves special mention. When ignorant fans say "Halo innovated stuff for the FPS genre!", haters will quickly point out other games that did said "innovation" before Halo. When the haters are hating, they'll bring up Halo's innovations as having made the genre go downhill and cite that as a reason for their hatred (or as it always comes across, smug dismissal). This is the single biggest pile of bollocks I've seen on the internet.
Why is saying that we don't like the direction Halo has taken the genre invalid? Do you deny that video games have something of a herd mentality where a feature that worked on popular game X is often copied into many other popular games? If you deny that then I'd be very interested to hear your arguments why. If you don't deny that then how is saying I don't like the direction Halo has taken the genre invalid? I don't like regening health as a major feature, it can work with certain game mechanics but in general I feel it hurts the flow of a game in general is my view invalid?
Your view isn't invalid. I think you misread that bit of my post slightly - it's the double standard, or hypocrisy, or whatever you want to call it of some "haters" that gets me.

Other, similarly irritating double standards include hating on CoD for releasing games too quickly, then wondering why it's taking more than a year and a half for Half-Life 2 episode 3 to come out (and labelling it "the new DNF"); getting annoyed that Bungie is only making the Halo games and no other franchises, then getting annoyed at Valve for working on franchises that aren't Half-Life (thus, in their eyes, delaying episode 3); and hating on the Halo franchise for having contained 6 games (far too many, apparently) when the Half-Life franchise contains at least that number as well.

Yes, the Half-Life fanbase is my least favourite fanbase on Earth, what was your first clue?
 

punkrocker27

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Because it's easily accessible fun. So maybe it doesn't deserve all of its praise and reknown. Does Portal, for that matter? This is all just subjective stuff.