why does everyone love watchmen?
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I watched the film the other day and thought it was great (I haven't read the comic). Visually it was brilliant, the characters are interesting (although some are underdeveloped - Veidt particularly) and I liked how they each represent a particular political or social group (although I know that's a carry over from the comic).
The music choices were a little weird though, apart from the intro which was fantastic.
It certainly seems to be a love-it-or-hate-it film.
The music choices were a little weird though, apart from the intro which was fantastic.
It certainly seems to be a love-it-or-hate-it film.
While the movie was pretty decent as far as adaptions go, i can't help but think the Comic's ending made more sense.
I don't see how making it look like Dr.Manhattan went nuts and blew up some cities would make any difference to the Cold War, it seems like America and Russia would just mourn their losses, accept that Manhattan flew off into space forever and get back to their nuclear dickwaving contest while in the Comic everyone would be like "oh balls, Giant alien squid monsters are coming to kill us!" and unite against the threat.
I personally didn't like the film all that much either. I too, found it to be overly long and boring. I did watch it again on channel 4 when it was on, but I found myself switching channels. I like the comic, don't get me wrong, I just prefer V for Vendetta over The Watchmen.
I think other people mentioned some good reasons for it being (at least) a likeable film and you can add those to my own list.
I'd like to add one more point though:
I absolutely loved the way you can feel Dr. Manhattan losing his grip on what we perceive as reality. This is a man (for lack of a better word) who can "see" time. He doesn't see into the future; he's not a fortune teller. He perceives time differently from what we do. While we experience moments in sequence (and unidirectionally at that) he experiences everything that happens always. He's above, looking down. It's a hard (read: impossible) concept to grasp and even harder to convey.
In general, I found all the characters compelling and very well written. You could get a feeling of how lost they all were since masked heroes had been outlawed and the baggage they carried. But Dr. Manhattan for me was an amazing attempt to depict a timeless super-being trying (and failing) to interact with normal people and I'm sure the novel does a much better job at it (I'll have to read it someday).
Even if the depiction wasn't as good as I claim (it's a subjective matter at best), the fact that it even attempts to describe what "timelessness" could be like is something that made me love the film a little bit more.
I'd like to add one more point though:
I absolutely loved the way you can feel Dr. Manhattan losing his grip on what we perceive as reality. This is a man (for lack of a better word) who can "see" time. He doesn't see into the future; he's not a fortune teller. He perceives time differently from what we do. While we experience moments in sequence (and unidirectionally at that) he experiences everything that happens always. He's above, looking down. It's a hard (read: impossible) concept to grasp and even harder to convey.
In general, I found all the characters compelling and very well written. You could get a feeling of how lost they all were since masked heroes had been outlawed and the baggage they carried. But Dr. Manhattan for me was an amazing attempt to depict a timeless super-being trying (and failing) to interact with normal people and I'm sure the novel does a much better job at it (I'll have to read it someday).
Even if the depiction wasn't as good as I claim (it's a subjective matter at best), the fact that it even attempts to describe what "timelessness" could be like is something that made me love the film a little bit more.
I love the film!
To me it is one of the most accurate of comic book conversions every made and does not lose anything in the undertaking
To me it is one of the most accurate of comic book conversions every made and does not lose anything in the undertaking
The only thing I hated about the movie were the little things.
The fact that they changed it from the massive squid to "Blame Dr. Manhatten" and Rorschach's bit with the kidnapper. How he killed him with the cleaver rather than burning the house down. Apparently it was because they were worried about ignorant meats heads claiming "They rip off Saw HURP DURP
I loved both the movie and the comic, and loved the director's cut of the movie even more. I think it really depends on how much you like superheroes and take the time to absorb all the details in the backround. The comic had a better ending however, in my opinion, because everything led up to it. There were clues from the very beginning, subliminal messages and such. They couldn't do that with the movie ending, which was still great, and closed things nicely.
WHAT!!! different people have different tastes OMG stop all presses. You answered your own question you don't like it therefore not EVERYBODY likes it.
I somewhat recently wrote a 10 page paper on Watchmen. The philosophy is totally sound if you consider each character as the physical manifestation of a worldview, ie. nihilism, utilitarianism, a-morality, etc.
In my opinion, artworks that represent genuine explorations in thought often stand the test of time and criticism best.
In my opinion, artworks that represent genuine explorations in thought often stand the test of time and criticism best.
If you don't like it you are an idiot... Just kidding, but the whole idea of having to 'get' something bugs me. I mean, what is there to get? It doesn't really matter if you miss the subtleties of a film, if you don't enjoy it, you're not going to care.
I really enjoyed the movie, much more than I liked the book. I thought the characters were pretty well rounded and the direction worked well, and yeah, the soundtrack was rather good. I'm sure you like plenty of things I don't, but that's what keeps life interesting isn't it?
I really enjoyed the movie, much more than I liked the book. I thought the characters were pretty well rounded and the direction worked well, and yeah, the soundtrack was rather good. I'm sure you like plenty of things I don't, but that's what keeps life interesting isn't it?
I think it may appeal more to the people who haven't read the comic (like me). I think what I most loved about the movie was that it painted the role of being a superhero in a much more relatable way. Despite most movies having a black and white side this movie allowed us to explore that nobody is ever totally good, whether or not their occupation inherently suggests good. Also, that even in the face of a necessary evil for long term good, there will always be a person who puts truth above everything else. Rorschach especially shined because he was on our side, the side of non-special human beings who would normally be powerless in the face of people like Manhattan, but when his journal was published we were essentially given more power than any hero.
I liked the movie, but as everyone else has already stated, the comic is amazing while the movie kind of misses the point at times. Probably my favorite book, but I haven't read that many. I'd say my favorite thing about the movie was the soundtrack (Yes, even My Chemical Romance's Desolation Row...). My brother who never read the book seemed to love the movie despite it's length (I can't seem to get him to watch or read anything to long, well I can't get him to read anything).
I've only seen the Theatrical Cut though. Saw it theaters, the only R rated movie I've ever seen in a theater that's how nerdy I am, lol, and I grabed the single disc for about $7. I want the Ultimate Cut (Since it has the newspaper stand parts which I loved in the comic and missed in the movie), but it's too pricy, and I don't want to spend that much on a DVD of one movie.
I've only seen the Theatrical Cut though. Saw it theaters, the only R rated movie I've ever seen in a theater that's how nerdy I am, lol, and I grabed the single disc for about $7. I want the Ultimate Cut (Since it has the newspaper stand parts which I loved in the comic and missed in the movie), but it's too pricy, and I don't want to spend that much on a DVD of one movie.