Yes and those are really bad examples for me as I know those songs and their background anyway so this won't help your case. I am point out that someone who has knowledge of music can hear things like Word painting where music does convey this. No the average listener needs lyric the trained on doesn't.EightGaugeHippo said:But without any back ground knowledge of a song or its composer's feelings, an instrumental piece is not about anything, it is just a broad overview of many possible emotions.Glademaster said:Maybe I am reading it wrongly but that sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Anyway instruments can convey emotion try watching Bambi without the sound because at least for me it really takes the joy out of the scenes and the weight out of his mum's death. Although this is usually used to describe music telling a story Word Painting is what it is called when music does what you say it can't.EightGaugeHippo said:You cannot communicate proper emotion through instruments as they do not speak any human language, you can only interpret emotion.
For example in Bohemian Rhapsody the flanged crash symbol near the start is supposed to be the wind, the bell tree effect on the guitar is a shiver down a spine and the drums signify thunder and lighting. While those are relatively simple examples there are slightly more complicated ones.
In Romeo and Juliet Fantasy overture the "Strife theme" has many rushing quavers and various other techniques to symbolise the conflict and anger between the families. This can be present even in non orchestras but I suppose without a small bit of music theory or having this being taught to you most people wouldn't really notice this stuff too much.
Lyrics give context and let the listener relate to something.
I want you to listen to those two songs again (or for the first time if you didnt) in my original reply...
-Try to relate a past experience or specific emotion to the instrumental.
-then do the same for the one with Lyrics.
To take an example of something a trained person might hear is a certain phrase in German music that is in Bach's Cantata Jesu Der du Miene Seele. In one of the movements I forget which one there is a relatively famous or often used phrase that symbolises happiness in German folk music. Stuff like this is universal and if you are trained to hear it music does not need lyrics and instrumental music will be just as rich as music with lyrics.