Why does Yahtzee hate Rome: Total War?

[Veylon]

I'd guess that RTSs are just not Yahtzee's cup of tea. He's an action player; he likes shooting things, blowing stuff up, and hates fake limitations. He loves playing games perversely and hates having a story forced on him. Keeping track of a million little details via resource management are not his thing.

 

[aakibar]

meh hes not a big fan of RTS any ways so build on that. personlly i like the game

 

[Squarez]

Guyys! I'm not saying its bad that he doesnt like it! okay? I just want to know why!

WE DON'T KNOW!

That's the straight answer, Jesus.

We're not his personal advisors.

 

[Nuke_em_05]

How should any of us know? Ask him directly yourself.

Other than that, glean what you can from his reviews and EP, which is as much as any of us can do anyway, but then that's a subjective opinion of his subjective opinion.

Then the obvious, why care? You like it, at the fact that he doesn't isn't going to change that. Explaning that he should like it based on the reasons you like it isn't going to work because he is not you.

 

[Iampringles]

Because he doesn't 'get it', or he's not very good at it, or because, most likely, he's just a guy who doesn't enjoy that type of game. He's a humorous game reviewer, not Jesus. If he doesn't like it, but you do, then the world keeps on spinning. It's called 'subjective opinion', and the world is full of them.

Ah, the old 'people have different opinions' phenomena.

You know, alot of the world's problems could be avoided if people accepted this fact.

 

[The_Deleted]

He obviously has some fundamental brainwrong.

it's his opinion whether or not to like a genre. don't chastise him for it.

Well, that's me told.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I don't recall Yahtzee saying he didn't like the Rome: Total War games. I know he's not a big fan of RTSs in general, but I don't think he's ever said anything about hating the Total War series specifically. He only briefly made mention of it in his Darkest of Days review and even then it was only to draw parallel.
Also why do you care what games Yahtzee likes and doesn't like?

 

[PurpleRain]

He has mentioned a few times that he hates something basic about Rome: Total War... but does anyone know in more depth the reasons that he seems to hate this kind of gameplay? Does that hatred extend to the mods for the games, such as the realism mods? Is it the basic idea of these troops go here, these troops do that, as units in realtime? Is it mixing the turn based seasonal thing and the real time thing? What is it? What about the other games in the series, are any of them palatable to him?

Oh, it seems very relevant: I am not UPSET that he doesn't like it, that's fine, I just want to know details. Its OKAY that he hates this game. I am only just "somewhat positive" in liking it. I just want to know the details of how and why he doesn't like it.

I don't understand why you're asking the Escapist why someone else likes something only he can give you an answer for? Very odd.

 

[matrix3509]

Wow, now Escapians are in some sort of stage when its a sin to care about Yahtzee or anything he says. I remember when it was just the opposite.

Almost everyone here discovered this site because of him. Now people turn there backs and mumble about not having heard of him. Seriously people, he's a game reviewer, not the fucking swine flu.

 

[matrix3509]

The guy only joins today and the first thing he does is start a thread about Yahtzee....

Yeah and? Isn't that the reason EVERYONE joins? Because of Yahtzee? If I may make an assumption, he is singly responsible for about 90% of the membership of the Escapist. Seeing as how new members get berated for mentioning Yahtzee as if he is some kind of disease, its no wonder people don't mention him more often.

 

[Tram]

People!

OP! Why don't you just send him an email about it? I mean, it's shown after every single episode.

People! I think we're missing the point where he once said he don't want to control a group of units but rather player one so he can stare his enemies into their eyes, that's your reason!

But remember! On the Valkyria Chronicles he did say he got amused playing it, the actual gameplay that is, not the story/options/"Are you sure?" questions/etc!


Conclusion! Yahtzee may aswell enjoy Strategy games, he just have to try one he likes. I mean, he loves Silent Hill 2 etc while I personally feel for horror games (except Resident Evil 2 and 3) what Yahtzee probably feel for Real Time Strategies.

Yes! I know Valkyria is a turn based, and he seems more into that than real time.

Why he doesn't like him? Like I said, and many others above, ask -him- write -him- an e-mail!

 

[Beartrucci]

Yahtzee has a fetish for hating things in a hilarious manner.

 

[gavinfoxx]

Okay I emailed him, I'm awaiting a.) a reply, or b.) a hilarious "mail time" in the latest ZP episode. I had hoped people here might have more access to more things that he had written outside of the ZP video reviews, or that there might be some of his old real life buddies hanging out here, or maybe even some Australian who goes and has beer with him once in a while on these forums, or whatever... but I guess that isn't the case... I didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest!

 

[gavinfoxx]

Rome total war, the RPG, are wethinking of the same game?

OT: I didn't like it either, people have tastes.

I thought it was, technically, a real time tactics and turn based strategy game?

 

[Highlandheadbanger]

He has mentioned a few times that he hates something basic about Rome: Total War... but does anyone know in more depth the reasons that he seems to hate this kind of gameplay? Does that hatred extend to the mods for the games, such as the realism mods? Is it the basic idea of these troops go here, these troops do that, as units in realtime? Is it mixing the turn based seasonal thing and the real time thing? What is it? What about the other games in the series, are any of them palatable to him?

Oh, it seems very relevant: I am not UPSET that he doesn't like it, that's fine, I just want to know details. Its OKAY that he hates this game. I am only just "somewhat positive" in liking it. I just want to know the details of how and why he doesn't like it.

Really mate, as a fellow Total War fan, I think his beef with it is our attention to detail and the structure with which we like to have in the game. Maybe he doesn't get it, I know I don't really care for some of his favorite games. It takes alot of patience and strategy to play an Strategy-RTS, something I'm pretty sure Yahtzee lacks judging from his love of FPSs, but really, enjoy the games, don't let some dirty Austrailian cynic spoil your fun, and don't make a big deal about it so he can bring the ire of the several hundred thousand bleating lambs who follow his judgement like cultists down on our favorite genre. If he does a special on why Total War sucks, I know dozens of people just in my area who'd take his word as divine bloody mandate.

 

[Highlandheadbanger]

Okay I emailed him, I'm awaiting a.) a reply, or b.) a hilarious "mail time" in the latest ZP episode. I had hoped people here might have more access to more things that he had written outside of the ZP video reviews, or that there might be some of his old real life buddies hanging out here, or maybe even some Australian who goes and has beer with him once in a while on these forums, or whatever... but I guess that isn't the case... I didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest!

Come on mate, thats more beating the hornets nest with a bat then anything else. I appreciate what you're trying to do, and Yahtzee will honestly just be stating his opinion on the subject, but if he realizes it or not, Yahtzee has several thousand fans around the world who merely take his word as "the truth", just in my area, I know several people whowon't buy a game if Yahtzee writes an unfavorable review, even mocking my love of Mirror's Edge. I don't want to deal with the backlash of dealing with all these bleating lambs after Yahtzee hands down his (probably negative) opinion of the series and the genre as a whole.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

this thread makes me giggle.

like a schoolgirl.

a pretty little school in a fine new jumper.



and clearly he does not like it because his hat controls his brain and hats hate all RTS games.
get your facts straight people.

 

[Miller iz Life]

Rome total war, the RPG, are wethinking of the same game?

OT: I didn't like it either, people have tastes.

I thought it was, technically, a real time tactics and turn based strategy game!

It is, but he said RPG, so I was mocking him. To be it was probably a typo. But anyway welcome to the Escapist!

it was a typo my B.....i did mean RTS or RTT whatever you want to say that it is

 

[Ammadessi]

He's Yahtzee. He doesn't like much.

This.

I think the better question to ask would be why Yahtzee LIKES the things he does, since his shtick is to be a misanthropic bastard who hates pretty much everything.

 

[Miller iz Life]

Rome total war, the RPG, are wethinking of the same game?

OT: I didn't like it either, people have tastes.

I thought it was, technically, a real time tactics and turn based strategy game!

It is, but he said RPG, so I was mocking him. To be it was probably a typo. But anyway welcome to the Escapist!

it was a typo my B.....i did mean RTS or RTT whatever you want to say that it is

Thats fine, and a pretty big typo, =p. Anyway, welcome to the escapist... Im saying that alot lately!

thank you for your welcome and i wasnt exactly thinking while i typed it xD