Why doesn't Reddit have the same bad rep Tumblr has?

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Ogoid

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Seth Carter said:
Oh they do. They're just basically only populated by like, 1% of the population of /b, which consigns most of them to irrelevance. There are a few that kind of achieve some semblance of a population (/mu for instance).

The thing with that is that they aren't really labelled intuitively, and they're still pretty broad. Reddit tends to narrow down a lot more, which keeps a much tighter focus on individual topics. There's more general use Reddits, but you won't stumble into them unless you want to.
I guess it could come down to my own personal experience. I'm not aware of any actual numbers, but of all 7 or so years I browsed 4chan, I mostly stuck to /co/ and some of the porn boards, sometimes /v/ and occasionally /tv/ (later also /vr/, and /lit/ until it became pretentious enough you regularly had people saying stuff like "I don't read anything written after the 1940s" without a hint of irony... or self-awareness, for that matter), and none of them ever struck me as lacking a fairly sizable population. Never cared about /b/ enough to spend any significant amount of time in it, though, so I guess I wouldn't really know.
 

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Seriously though, any social media service is going to have its septic tank, and part of the septic tank is going to be full of people declaring that the septic tank on other service is way worse and has far more floating chunks of partly-digested corn than their septic tank.
This sums it up. It's almost like no matter how you divide people up there is going to be a sub-group of shitty, tribal ones.
 

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Smithnikov said:
/r/incel, actually
Why would you subject yourself to that? I checked it out once because a whole thread got derailed because of it. Oh lord. It's both terrifying how demented their beliefs are and sad how pathetic and desperately unhappy they are.

I will say that is kind of cheating if you want to paint reddit as bad. I don't think any other subreddit looks at them with anything but distain, even thedonald, redpill etc. Thankfully they are fairly contained (though still frightening to read. Serial killers and rapists think the way they talk).
 

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Why would you subject yourself to that? I checked it out once because a whole thread got derailed because of it. Oh lord. It's both terrifying how demented their beliefs are and sad how pathetic and desperately unhappy they are.

I will say that is kind of cheating if you want to paint reddit as bad. I don't think any other subreddit looks at them with anything but distain, even thedonald, redpill etc. Thankfully they are fairly contained (though still frightening to read. Serial killers and rapists think the way they talk).
Same reason people subject themselves to the blogs of colored hair "Diecishetwhitescum" feminists or anywhere on the chans.
 

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Even your hatred of women and feminists couldn't unite you guys?

Besides, I thought MLP fans were degenerates deserving of the gas chamber according to /pol/

So confused.....
 

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I don't have a lot of experience with either of them, but I've seen several Reddits with a wide variety of schools of thought, and while the individual communities might not encourage different opinions, they seem to have a broad spectrum on various political and social issues.
Except maybe when it comes to being outgoing. I doubt there's a social extroverts Reddit.

I know even less about Tumblr, but if you just look at the dashboard, the site itself seems to promote Tumblr pages with a very similar progressive way of thinking, and though I probably agree with most of the stuff they show, I get the feeling they never give much attention to stuff like libertarian Tumblrs.
 

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Each Sub is an island onto itself.

That doesn't stop the murderous, racist pirate clan from the next island over from raiding the peaceful sub-reddits from time to time, which I've seen happen all to often. Never forget the infamous Volvo massacre. Honestly I find it to be much more of a powder keg. The spats on Tumblr are usually only public if one person having the conversation reblogs it. I think...I don't really get tumblr.
 

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Funny, I've heard basically nothing about Tumbler and alot about Reddit.
 

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Doesn't it? Because at least on 4chan "go back to reddit!" isn't exactly something you tell someone who sticks out positively. I guess it's just as political as Tumblr but then Tumblr's association with petty identity politics is kind of a stereotype anyway. Franky, I go to Tumblr for the porn.
 

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There is your problem man you went to the fuckin incel place. Everyone hates them everyone on reddit if you say something some disagree with they will throw you in with r incel justified or not. Reddit is the capital of fedora fears le neckbeards ad nauseum and other forms of head up the assery.

Tumblr has its issues LORD IT DOES that interface goes against human logic. But the best thing about Tumblr, Reddit, shit even that thing know as 4chan you can make it on your own to customize the experience so that only cool shit you like pops up and ignore the other shit. Like I am like you I got to places and read what people say it pisses me off but I keep doing it for some reason cause I am insane in the membrane.

But basically everyone hates everyone. I guess you had blinders looking at something straight unaware of the other shit surround hiding in the darkness.
 

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Smithnikov said:
"Tumblrina" is pretty much now a slang term, and the whole damn site seems to be reflexivly associated with colored hair no-fun-allowed ultra left wing people with insane political and social views.
This ahs a lot to do with those sorts really taking to Tumblr in droves early on (before that it ws mostly known for...atypical...porn). It's not an entirely deserved stereotype, though.

Smithnikov said:
Yet when I paruse the supposedly more sane Reddit, I come across lovely quotes such as...

*snip*

And many..MANY more.
Guessing /r/redpill and /r/incels (which is notably a wildly different beast from /r/incel, because of course it is) for those quotes?

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So why does Reddit not seem to have a simiarly bad rap for its insane inhabitants? How did it get off the hook that Facebook and Tumblr got put on?
Because it has neat little pigeonholes that everything fits into to the point that you can reliably predict how crazy and what sort of crazy a given bit of Reddit is likely to be. Tumblr tends to "leak" a lot more.

See my comment above where I guessed which subs your example quotes came from. The topic, way of viewing the topic and choice of language suggest where it came from. You certainly didn't pull those quotes from /r/feminism for example, nor from /r/games or even from "evil misogynistic hate subs" like /r/mensrights or /r/kotakuinaction.

To be fair, sometimes the sentiments given can be weirdly similar in a very horseshoe theory kind of way, which leads to subs about that similarity like /r/StormfrontOrSJW and /r/MenKampf which are essentially about how social justice/feminist statements are often weirdly resemble white supremacist/nazi speech just aimed at different targets.

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McElroy said:
Reddit is full of circlejerking attention whores. Not just r/TheRedPill or r/TwoXChromosomes or wherever you got these from.
/r/incel, actually
Hadn't red this when I wrote the initial reply. Was it /r/incel or /r/incels? The latter tends to be way angrier than the former.
 

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I actually had to urbandictionary Chad and STEMlord. I'm feeling really over the hill here.

As someone who'se leaning right of center, my view is that while reddit itself doesn't have a particularly bad rep, individual subreddits do. It doesn't look like any particular ideology 'won' reddit yet, it's a cesspit, but you can find a sub cesspit that agrees with you.

Tumblr has already been 'won' by the SJWs, the rainbow flag is flying over the parapets. Most people leaning right of center simply don't approach it (I've never been there, due to the reputation.) All I really know about it is that it's where the 64 genders and the sex as spectrum things come from.
 

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Smithnikov said:
McElroy said:
Reddit is full of circlejerking attention whores. Not just r/TheRedPill or r/TwoXChromosomes or wherever you got these from.
/r/incel, actually
Never even heard of it. Thanks for the heads up though.
 

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Come now everyone. They are all people who have the right to exist and give their opinions. No bad rep for anyone. Everyone is right all the time. Don't judge.
 

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Worgen said:
Wait, people use tumblr for things besides porn? YOU'RE USING IT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
I mean I use it for fan art sometimes...but THEN THE PORN.
 

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Charli said:
Worgen said:
Wait, people use tumblr for things besides porn? YOU'RE USING IT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
I mean I use it for fan art sometimes...but THEN THE PORN.
Yeah, yeah....we all know "fan art" is code for "pony porn", you don't have to hide it.

Unless the "fan art" is depicting genderless shapeshifting aliens the wrong way, and then that artist is attacking women and their body image issues and needs to be threatened until she at least considers suicide. That's just the Tumblr way!
 

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Smithnikov said:
Same reason people subject themselves to the blogs of colored hair "Diecishetwhitescum" feminists or anywhere on the chans.
To seek out people who will anger you? What's the point of that? All that has accomplished is create a very hostile environment with conversations going

"You must explain why this person doesn't invalidate everything you stand for!"
"NO U!"

EDIT: I also think it's a way for extremism to spread, not be contained. If you continuously force an association on someone then demand they explain themselves, eventually the answer may become "because they have the right idea."

And yes, everyone who is reading, that probably does apply to whatever you're thinking.

Schadrach said:
Well shit me a brick. There are two subs dedicated to that?
 

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Schadrach said:
Charli said:
Worgen said:
Wait, people use tumblr for things besides porn? YOU'RE USING IT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
I mean I use it for fan art sometimes...but THEN THE PORN.
Yeah, yeah....we all know "fan art" is code for "pony porn", you don't have to hide it.

Unless the "fan art" is depicting genderless shapeshifting aliens the wrong way, and then that artist is attacking women and their body image issues and needs to be threatened until she at least considers suicide. That's just the Tumblr way!
Eugh no god no. Not into multicoloured boobed horse women. Dooooes not do it for me.

I draw fan art so it's sometimes nice to have it recognized by people. Porn is just...well it's another art form tbh to me. Alot of the porn artists are really quite talented.

Then there's the ...fetish artists, who are not quite as talented if I'm judging them in a cup of each.
 

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Eugh no god no. Not into multicoloured boobed horse women. Dooooes not do it for me.
Ew, no. Naked anthro ponies are just weird.


We all know the best pony porn keeps the characters quadrupedal.
 

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A few reasons.

Firstly, as said, Reddit is far more segmented. Reddit has a bad rep as a hivemind of memes and shit reposts, but it doesn't have a reputation as a gender war haven because, well, it isn't. Sure, r/whatever may subscribe to that, but you can also find r/theoppositeofwhatever, and its probably far more popular.
Tumblr doesn't have this same ease, because its individual users who do this, and there are a reasonable number of them. Rather than being able to just lump it in as "r/x is shit", you'd have to list them off as "user x, y, z, m, n, o, & p are shit", and that's way too much effort. Tags can help, but again, being completely user defined and not moderated it ends up just being a bit of a mess.

The structure also works to isolate these incidents from those who aren't looking for them. Lets take the JonTron controversy, and see what would happen if he was on Reddit, or Tumblr, instead of Youtube. On Tumblr, people follow JonTron the user for his gaming content, subscribing to him after seeing some of his posts on the gaming tag. He then posts a bunch of racist crap on the politics tag, and everyone who's subscribed to him sees it.
In reddit, you don't do this. You subscribe to r/gaming, and when u/JonTron posts something in r/politics... Nobody notices because nobody is notified. It keeps it much more under wraps by following a topic than following a user. It also labels its user following function, which is much harder to find simply because who the hell clicks on a user's profile on reddit [As opposed to a general blog on Tumblr], and on Reddit its called a 'friend' - which has a completely different connotation that causes many people to avoid it, even if it is literally just a 'follow this person and see their posts in r/friends and r/friendscomments' button.

Another piece to the puzzle is the types of comments. General sexism? Its fairly old hat, and its fairly well known for existing in some form everywhere. Even here on the Escapist you sometimes get posts hinting at that sort of thing in the political section, though often either only implied to avoid Modwrath, or having incurred Modwrath. Hence, it seems... wrong, to label general sexism as "Reddit's Thing", when everywhere does it. Conversely, on Tumblr, we have that new sort of ultra-feminist, which is kind of exotic and new and "Ooh, I ain't seen that before". Hence, it gets labelled big time, for being a relatively new thing. While other websites do have posters who are undoubtedly similar to these people on Tumblr, Tumblr seems to be the only place actually accepting of "I am actually a helicopterkin and have 125 genders, preferring the pronounces Kzhe and Kzhim", and taking it seriously, thanks to just being a collection of user blogs making it easier for people to just form an unmoderated group about this stuff, whereas on other websites its often more seen as "Dafuq?" and isn't taken seriously by almost anyone, with these websites instead being open messaging boards where you can't just pick a group of friends and reinforce your own fantasy in isolation, and instead have to put up with the ridicule of the general internet.

From a purely anecdotal standpoint, the userbase probably also affects it. Literally the only people I know who use Tumblr are <20 year old girls. Half the people I meet day to day use Reddit for some reason or other. Reddit has a much broader user base in my experience, and thus the 'special snowflake' types that everyone loves to ridicule, as well as the hyper-racist types, tend to just get drowned out in your general cacophony, and if you try to generalise a redditor, you constantly run into surprises when you find that attractive 26 year old female uni student sitting next to you browses it, as does your 45 year old male boss. Tumblr? When the only types of people you see using it day to day are the types of people closest related to the whole "I'm a unicornkin" craze, then its much easier to just label the entire site as that.
As said, purely anecdotal, and I'm sure there are a variety of users who use Tumblr, I've just never met them, and I'd hazard a much larger portion of its userbase is the somewhat self absorbed <20 year old looking to make their own personal blog - its kind of the whole point of the site afterall. This drastically alters the type of content you're likely to find on Tumblr, and hence it gets a reputation for that content.

More anecdote; logging out, going incognito, and activating a VPN browsing just the front pages of Tumblr and Reddit ATM:
Tumblr; A post about Club Penguin, a post about racism, 4 memes, a PC vs Console post, a music post, several poetry posts, a bunch of fandom posts, a nice landscape picture, and a bunch of that 'edgy' life inspiration quote stuff that's really a crock of nonsense.
Reddit; News, a post thanking someone for intervening to help his daughter who was being sexually harassed, some sport, pet pictures and memes, in-jokes, normal jokes, more memes and pet pictures, and more news.
The feel of the two is naturally very different. Tumblr feels like an angst ridden teenage cespit, Reddit feels relatively neutral, at least from just the front page of both. Its easy to see then why someone that takes a quick look at each might just believe and repeat the 'Tumblr is crazies' stereotype while not seeing it apply to Reddit.

As other have said though, Reddit does have a negative reputation, especially some subreddits. But it tries to hide and segregate it, and IMO has a much more varied user base. Tumblr just throws everything against a wall, and doesn't try to hide any of it, with a userbase that just feels much more angsty. Its any wonder one gets a reputation while the other doesn't.