Why don't we have gundam yet?

DrRockor

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I was bored and just thinking about random stuff, like I often do on my days off, and I thought of something. Why don't we have gundam yet?

I don't know why I think we should have giant robot suits yet and I know that they are really impractical but theres enough media involving them and stupid stuff from media has been built before. I've seen working jetpacks and they're just as impractical. Why aren't there any scientists and engineers with too much time on their hands working on this.

Anyway, what do you think? Should they have built giant robot suits by now?
 

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Oh, I assure you the Japanese are hard at work on it, my friend!

(Okay, so it doesn't move, but it can't be that hard to make functional.)

Personally, I want one of theses.



[sub] I can't even imagine that amount of fuel that beast uses. [/sub]
 

DrRockor

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A0CGCxYSl0

we do. its right there. flying cars are real just not mass produced
 

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To be honest.... the metal and energy, plus the upkeep.... you can imagine the nightmare that would be the gundam, no offence, but if you want a battle suit, try the ones from the Starship Troopers book, they aren?t that big, and still look more bad ass than a gundam.
 

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You do realise that the major flaw to build a real life mech in general is that all you have to do is destory its legs? Once a leg is destroyed and the mech topple over, there is nothing else it can do in terms of movements.
Sure you can argue about making legs bulky but it still a major weakness as the enemy would concretrate their attacks on the legs.
 
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Because bipedal tanks are fucking stupid and in no way an efficient way to do anything?

It would be like making a giant gun.

No, not a tank, I mean something like an M9 handgun, blown up to stupidly huge proportions.

There are easier and cheaper ways to get the same effect.
 

DrRockor

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so you all know, I do know exactly how stupid the idea of a bipedal tank is. i just want a giant robot suit.
 

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There are a number of reasons.

The most notable are simply the practical ones. The human form is inherently unstable on the move. It is only through the application of countless small and semi-invluntary muscle responses that the act of walking is possible. While this can be overcome with current technology a second one is far harder to defeat: power. Simply put, generating the energy needed to move something very large is difficult and fitting a power plant inside something as (relatively) small as a gundam would be impossible with current technology.

Which such problems could be overcome, this leads to a second set of problems. If you consider the fundamental flaws of the human form, you begin to realize that protecting the weak spots inherent in the design is all but impossible. Modern anti-armor weapons are easily capable of defeating the equivalent of several feet of steel armor. Due to simple weight considerations, even modern main battle tanks only maintain this sort of protection on a single face and even then only on a specific part of said facing. Achieving this sort of protection on any significant part of a mecha would be impossible. Thus a mecha would be significantly more vulnerable to a wider variety of anti-armor weapon systems.

A second problem is simply that motion of the sort shown in Gundam is, strictly speaking, impossible. If you ignore pesky problems like questions of a pilot's ability to survive any number of obviously fatal things (falling from a great height, sudden acceleration of any sort, etc), you'll begin to consider the simple reality of the structure itself. As a general rule, the bigger something gets the harder it is to move. People are relatively mobile and agile but we are shamed in this regard by the common house cat. By contract, we are significantly more agile than an Elephant. To get to my point more quickly, the problem is that a mecha's mass would make sudden maneuvers impossible. An attempt to arrest a machine that weighs hundreds of tons motion so that it can pivot and move in a different direction would result in the catastrophic failure of the support structure long before any significant change was made in heading.

The final problem is that the expense necessary to produce such a machine has no real purpose not already filled by specialist machines. Tanks are already an incredibly efficient way to package mobility, firepower and armor together. Artillery and air support are excellent ways to deliver firepower over long distances and infantry has long proven it's worth in complex terrain.

What is far more likely is not the mecha of Japenese origin, but something closer to power armor. The weak link technologically speaking is the infantryman. People have a natural payload limit of perhaps 100 pounds. This limits what weapon systems are considered man portable. Even relatively small weapons like automatic grenade launchers and heavy machine guns require teams of several people to move and such weapons are thus largely relegated to prepared positions. The medium machine gun and single shot grenade launcher represent the heaviest weapons a single soldier can bring to battle (and in the case of the former, the task is generally assigned to a pair of soldiers). By the same note, protecting the soldier is difficult. Body armor is heavy and uncomfortable and even the heaviest armor is only designed to protect a relatively small portion of the body and even then only against a relatively small caliber of weapon.

The technical problems of power armor would, all told, be easier to overcome than those of a mecha (some of which are almost certainly impossible to overcome). By increasing the payload limit of a single soldier by even a few hundred pounds, personal protection and firepower of an infantryman could be increased dramatically without significantly detracting from the advantage infantry provide on the battlefield.
 
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bahumat42 said:
Arontala said:
I'd like to point out that most Gundams are actually, y'know, capable of flight.

The legs are just there for show.

"for show" has no place in a purely military vehicle. Its made for purpose, legs are contrary to that purpose, especially if its manoeuvrability, extra weight + not streamlined = useless.

Their very cool, but they are as much a fantasy as dragons.
I don't know man, I've heard stories about tanks with 'go faster stripes'...

I once heard of a tank that had a giant katana on it's back and it won all the wars.
 

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Arontala said:
I'd like to point out that most Gundams are actually, y'know, capable of flight.

The legs are just there for show.
Then we already have them.

Legless, made of metal and capable of flight....

Ladies and gentlemen I give you *drum roll* THE AEROPLANE.
 
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bahumat42 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
bahumat42 said:
Arontala said:
I'd like to point out that most Gundams are actually, y'know, capable of flight.

The legs are just there for show.

"for show" has no place in a purely military vehicle. Its made for purpose, legs are contrary to that purpose, especially if its manoeuvrability, extra weight + not streamlined = useless.

Their very cool, but they are as much a fantasy as dragons.
I don't know man, I've heard stories about tanks with 'go faster stripes'...

I once heard of a tank that had a giant katana on it's back and it won all the wars.
to be fair if that tank exists i totally want one, but i stand by my statement of functionality.
Also, there was a plane with eleven pairs of wings. I believe it was called The Flightinator.

That won all the wars too. Except in the sky.

Also, the wings were on fire.
 
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bahumat42 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
bahumat42 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
bahumat42 said:
Arontala said:
I'd like to point out that most Gundams are actually, y'know, capable of flight.

The legs are just there for show.

"for show" has no place in a purely military vehicle. Its made for purpose, legs are contrary to that purpose, especially if its manoeuvrability, extra weight + not streamlined = useless.

Their very cool, but they are as much a fantasy as dragons.
I don't know man, I've heard stories about tanks with 'go faster stripes'...

I once heard of a tank that had a giant katana on it's back and it won all the wars.
to be fair if that tank exists i totally want one, but i stand by my statement of functionality.
Also, there was a plane with eleven pairs of wings. I believe it was called The Flightinator.

That won all the wars too. Except in the sky.

Also, the wings were on fire.
thats all i could find for flightinator on google :( (yes i looked xD)

http://universe.lego.com/en-gb/community/creationlab/GetMedia.aspx?id=4aa67e40-cc18-49c5-83c0-eb3a1d3e0398
But...

The Flightinator was made of Legoantium, but that was top secret...

Who told you my secretest secrets!