Why don't you play games on PC?

[boag]

I personally dont understand this outlandish problem people have with someone not playing on the PC, its like they believe that by not playing on the PC, their precious core gaming group will disappear, here is a news flash, it wont, stop worrying about it and just play the fucking games.

No one cares if people play consoles for reasons like convenience or if they prefer the games.

It's when people use reasons like "I don't want to spend $5000 on a PC" or "I don't want to upgrade every 6 months" then it just shows they are making decisions based of huge misconceptions which are refuted time and time again yet still need to be repeated every thread.

Why do you even care if they do or do not have misconceptions about it?

Why is this topic so important to PC gaming enthusiasts?

I dont see constant WHY DONT YOU PLAY ON THE CONSOLE INSTEAD OF PC threads being made biweekly.

So why is it so freaking important for PC players to know that Console players arent informed about the PC?

Well the thread is about PC gaming. If people post things that are wrong, on a bloody forum of all places then what is the issue if we correct them?

correct them about what?

About not playing in the GRORIOUS PC, because they are dumb poor retards?

Well thank you for the enlightenment, ill keep playing on the console, thanks.

So much strawman.

Anyway. Correct them about being objectively wrong then making decisions based off those misconceptions.

Hyperbole is not a straw man, learn the difference.

$500 on a motherboard? Dafuq?

You can build a capable gaming machine for about £400+ in the UK. You can even get one for less if you use an APU.

400.00 GBP = 639.730 USD
British Pound US Dollar

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position

You think I'm correcting them because I think they are "lesser". Now you say it is hyperbole but at the time it looked like that was what you were using.

Thanks for converting £400 to US dollars. What was your point?

1.- Because the Grorious PC didnt give it away right?

2.- just making sure you are aware of the cash differences between one place and the other, although I will admit that chart that brought up those prices do make it tempting, but I still need someone to do it for free, because like I said, I DONT WANT THE HASSLE, im too old to want to fuck around with computers, I want shit boxed and ready to play.

 

[Dragonmaster3]

Howdy, another lowly console-tard here. I don't really have anything other people won't have all ready said:

- In the grand scheme of things it's cheaper.

--No it's not, if you need more info, I'll gladly provide it.

- It's less hassle/can just pick up and play, requires less maintenance/less likely to die on me.

--Wrong again, consoles are just as easily to die on you, and if you don't have warranty on it, you're screwed, unless you know what you're doing. PC parts (if you built it yourself), have warranties for up to 5 years or more, and most people never need to worry about it.
- I already have a laptop and while she's not the most powerful, it does everything I need it to do, I don't need to piss away hundreds/thousands of pounds on a machine purely for gaming while my 360 isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

--Wrong yet again, gaming desktops don't cost $1,000 for gaming. I bought mines for $800, and that was without sales / rebates, and I could have saved another $100 if I didn't need Windows 7.


- To me, a controller will always be more intuitive than a mouse and keyboard (and let me pre-emptively state that I don't play MMO's or RTS's) which I suppose is just by osmosis; having been brought up on and accustomed to consoles it just feels more fluid and natural.

--You can plug in your controller to your computer.


- I don't really need THE absolute smexiest graphyx yo! That the current top of line set up may well have to offer. It looks fine on a console in HD. I'll live.

--That's what everyone says, but when you have it, you'll never go back. I mean if people had PS2 graphics to current gen graphics, I'm sure you wouldn't want the PS2 graphics.

- As far as I'm aware the PC doesn't have any exclusives that I'm dying to have or anything.

--The PC world is much different than the console world, and a lot bigger. There's a ton of games just waiting for you.


- I prefer the perspective of looking at a TV rather than a monitor. Just a predilection of mine.

--You can easily plug in your computer to your TV, it's the same wire after all. A lot of consoles users say this, but they have no idea what they're talking about.

 

[JDLY]

1.sofa is more comfortable than an office chair
3. I can't fit a large desktop on my desk

Nothing against you, you're not the only one who posted this, just the most recent.

Play PC games on my 42" Hi-def tv, from my couch (keyboard in lap and a mousepad (a rigid one) on the couch next to me.

I'm not saying it's for everyone, my friend who got me into PC gaming prefers a desk and chair.

But I think that every time somebody says something like "my console is plugged into my giant tv" or "a couch is more comfortable" because I'm sitting on my couch while typing this on my giant tv.

 

[manaman]

...I don't want to replace my graphics processing RAM drive every time a Jehovah's Witness comes knocking at the door.

Curse those Jehovah's Witnesses and their giant naturally occurring electromagnetic fields.

 

[Dragonmaster3]

3) I just want to plug in and play. - Well you do the same exact thing on the PC too! All you do is open up Steam, click on the game, and then "Play". Do you want me to repeat it more slowly, cause I think I was going too fast there?

dont you mean, install steam download game, download updates, run steam,wait for it to tell you have a POS PC, fuck around with config for a while to get the shit working, then play.

Whose fault was it to not look at the minimum / recommended settings before trying to run it on an crappy PC? Don't blame PC gaming for that, blame yourself. And out of the rare occurrences, that a game doesn't work, is that the PC's fault? Like Skyrim to the PS3? If I bought an PS3, and played Skyrim on it to find out that it was buggy as hell, I think I would also blame the PS3 and says it's too much of an headache to make it work. Oh wait...

 

[Waaghpowa]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but local, slit screen multiplayer. One of the things I love about consoles is being able to play with friends in the same room with split screen. To me, it feels more fun and inviting. I love being able to have friends over and play two player co-op or get a little competitive with two player multiplayer with one system and one television.

At the moment, as far as I can tell, PCs just seem to focus on single player or online multiplayer. Sure, I could do LAN multiplayer, but I don't have two computers to use nor two copies of games I want to play.

Though I agree that split screen is nice the unfortunate thing these days is the developers don't bother with it a lot of the time because they figure people want to play online.

Also fun fact: Serious Sam 3 for PC (only) supports 4 player splitscreen, or more, I forget.

 

[RevRaptor]

Well Pc's may be cheap where you live but they arn't here. A xbox with hdd costs $500 when I built my gaming pc all that would cover would be my motherboard. You are assuming what's true for you is true for everyone and you are wrong. I spent $3000 ish building my rig, the same set up off the shelf would have been about $5500 ish and with crappier parts.
As much as I love my pc I gotta agree with the console lovers that pc gaming is a major pain in the butt, for example to get Morrowind to play wide screen you gotta edit its registry files. Not to mention the hassle I'm having getting my games to work on win7 64 bit. Console gaming is simply easier and in my mind at least, easier = better.

Okay, and now for some actual hardware prices, since apparently that's actually needed again: http://tinyurl.com/falconguide

Any of the green/blue builds will play any game out today, the blue colorcoded builds even at highest details.
Spending any more than that is just extremely stupid or throwing money away...

Good example with Morrowind also, you're basically saying that because you had the choice to play the game in Widescreen on the PC, as well as Mod the game and that was supposedly a "hassle", the Xbox version is somehow better in which none of this is even possible... right I see...

Wow so much fail. Firstly that list applies to me how exactly? I live in NZ Pc's cost way more here, as I said in my last post your price is not my price (face palm). Aso do you even know how pc's work? you don't have the choice to play morrowind wide screen on pc it does it anyways and if you don't set the aspect ratio it looks stretched, the xbox displays it in it correct aspect ratio regardless of TV - that's another win for the console crowd.

 

[Something Amyss]

I do play some games on PC. I'd play more, but I hate Mouse and Keyboard, don't want to upgrade a unit I primarily use for music, web browsing, and writing, and like playing on two separate screens (playing and writing, playing and browsing, etc).

Before anyone tears me a new one, it's not hard or "too expensive" to upgrade my tower. I still don't particularly want to do it. I prefer the console experience.

 

[JDLY]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but local, slit screen multiplayer. One of the things I love about consoles is being able to play with friends in the same room with split screen. To me, it feels more fun and inviting. I love being able to have friends over and play two player co-op or get a little competitive with two player multiplayer with one system and one television.

At the moment, as far as I can tell, PCs just seem to focus on single player or online multiplayer. Sure, I could do LAN multiplayer, but I don't have two computers to use nor two copies of games I want to play.

Actually I believe you are the first to mention it.

Also, that is the most valid point so far in my opinion. All the other reasons had were subjective. I.e. controller is more comfortable, don't want the hassle. That depends on the person.

But the split screen is something solid. Granted you could boil it down to "don't want the hassle" as it is possible to get split screen (I have with L4D2).

 

[octafish]

My kids take up a lot of time, and then there is time to spend with my wife, cleaning the house, cooking, and sometimes at the end of the day I'm just too tired to play games. When I do get time to play games I only play on the PC though. I'm 37 and I've never owned a console, and I don't think I ever will, I don't like controllers much and the games that require them (football games are the exception). I see no reason to buy a console at all when I can play the games I like on PC. I almost bought a 2nd hand XBOX for RDR, but a friend told me to try playing GTAIV with a controller first and I quickly put that thought out of my mind.

 

[Starik20X6]

PC doesn't (legally) have most of the games I want.

I'm much more comfortable using a controller.

PC gamers talk to me like they're elitist buttholes.

I prefer local multiplayer over online (have you ever tried to have two people play on one PC?)

It's much more relaxing to be on my couch in an open space than alone in my room.

 

[newdarkcloud]

Because by the time I reached a formative age, I had gotten used to console gaming.

Nowadays, besides PS3 exclusives, I have no other reason to stay on consoles besides "I'm used to it."

 

[OneOfTheMichael's]

Though there are quite a few games that I probably should have bought for the Pc for mods like skyrim and fallout but most games I own are for the X-Box because I feel more comfortable playing with a controller for fps that I play so often

 

[boag]

3) I just want to plug in and play. - Well you do the same exact thing on the PC too! All you do is open up Steam, click on the game, and then "Play". Do you want me to repeat it more slowly, cause I think I was going too fast there?

dont you mean, install steam download game, download updates, run steam,wait for it to tell you have a POS PC, fuck around with config for a while to get the shit working, then play.

Whose fault was it to not look at the minimum / recommended settings before trying to run it on an crappy PC? Don't blame PC gaming for that, blame yourself. And out of the rare occurrences, that a game doesn't work, is that the PC's fault? Like Skyrim to the PS3? If I bought an PS3, and played Skyrim on it to find out that it was buggy as hell, I think I would also blame the PS3 and says it's too much of an headache to make it work. Oh wait...

Funny, isnt that exactly what happened?

People blamed Bethesda for putting out a game on the PS3 that had some issues?


Anyways, glad you enlightened these poor idiot console fags about the ways of the PC master race, what I still dont understand, is that if you think people are so fucking stupid to check to see if a game works on a console, why you would want them tainting your precious PC inner circle.

 

[dyre]

These threads can always be well summarized with a long "DURRRRRR!"...

It's always different people repeating like the 3-4 same things they believe to be right because they are quite simply misinformed:

- People that think if you play on a PC you gotta use Mouse+Keyboard and somehow can't grasp the idea that you can stick Controllers, Joysticks, Racing Wheels or any other periphery into those USB ports unlike most consoles.
- People repeating how a gaming PC costs anywhere from 3000-10000$
- People that are saying their games look so much better on a TV or play better from a couch without realizing that the cable they are putting into the back of their monitor also goes into the back of a TV.
- People believing that one has to be some sort of rocket scientist for gaming on a PC (more like back in the 80s and 90s), when in reality nowadays it mostly constitutes being able to install Steam (and never even having to worry about physical media or losing games again), if you can manage using a computer for school/internet/work etc. you'll manage that.
- People that believe input devices handle the same and it being down to "preference" even though there are dozens of scientific studies on the superiority of pointing devices for certain genres like FPS.

And whenever someone points out what they are saying is ridiculous and tries to correct them he/she is being labeled "elitist".

There's no need to be pretentious. I haven't touched a console in years, but I've got nothing against people who prefer it over the glorious PC.

Gaming PCs do cost more than consoles, especially if you don't build them yourself, and it's not like you can expect the average person who doesn't know what a CPU is to take the time to figure out how to build a computer.

If people want to play on their couch, it's pretty inconvenient to plug your PC into a TV in your living room every time you want to play video games, especially if you only own one computer and use it to do work, so it's in your office / study room.

Also, I'm pretty sure people don't claim that every input device is the same in terms of effectiveness. It doesn't change the fact that it's a matter of preference though. Unless you play competitively, who cares if you sacrifice effectiveness for comfort and preference? Btw, do you have links to any of the dozens of scientific studies on the superiority of (presumably mouse as the best pointing device) in gaming? I'm shocked so many people bothered to do studies on that subject...in fact, I only recall one article on the topic, and it was more anecdotal than scientific.

 

[Waaghpowa]

PC gamers talk to me like they're elitist buttholes.

Neither side is free of buttholes. I've met console gamers who automatically acted and treated me like I was an elitist dick. (The following is not directed at you) Can we all stop with the generalization and all around jerk behaviour?

 

[yRar_972]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but local, slit screen multiplayer. One of the things I love about consoles is being able to play with friends in the same room with split screen. To me, it feels more fun and inviting. I love being able to have friends over and play two player co-op or get a little competitive with two player multiplayer with one system and one television.

At the moment, as far as I can tell, PCs just seem to focus on single player or online multiplayer. Sure, I could do LAN multiplayer, but I don't have two computers to use nor two copies of games I want to play.

Though I agree that split screen is nice the unfortunate thing these days is the developers don't bother with it a lot of the time because they figure people want to play online.

Also fun fact: Serious Sam 3 for PC (only) supports 4 player splitscreen, or more, I forget.

Well I'll be blowed, cool! However, four people sitting around a computer to play a PC game does not seem very comfortable.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Well I'll be blowed, cool! However, four people sitting around a computer to play a PC game does not seem very comfortable.

Big tv + controllers or long table with keyboards.

 

[00slash00]

wait i dont follow your logic. its not because its too expensive or because you arent good with computers, its because you dont want to spend more time on the computer than you already do? is there such a big difference between playing on a pc and playing on a console?

anyway, the only reason i have for playing on a console instead of a pc is if the game isnt available for pc. i try to keep my pc up to date so it generally looks and runs better than console games, and since i can play with a game pad the games control as well or better

 

[babinro]

I'm primarily a PC gamer these days but I still enjoy the consoles. When this computer can no longer run the high end games, I'll go back to being a console gamer primarily for a few years until I can afford and justify a new gaming PC.

- Consoles offer smoother controls than PC and are far more relaxed and natural to play as a result. PC's can absolutely use controllers. I've only ever had headaches trying to get a PC controller to respond as fluidly as a console one with most games. Terrible experience 3 out of 4 times.

- Consoles are reliable. I buy a game for that console and it'll work. Simple and awesome. Buy a game off steam and you may have to spend an hour troubleshooting it. Or you may find out it was never compatible on your new computer.

- Consoles have exclusive games that are fantastic and don't really have a PC equivalent.

- Unique play styles that enhance genres. Motion controlled golf, Rock Band drums, etc.

- Consoles remain up to date with gaming for 5+ years since developers refuse to push the boundaries on PC during a given generation.

- Less expensive. The vast majority of people don't know how to build a $1500 Dell computer with $300.00 (myself included). Games are admittedly far more expensive on console though be they new or used. So if you're the kind of gamer that buys 10+ games a year, you'll probably same money going PC despite the initial investments/upkeep/upgrade costs.