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shadowstriker86

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Again, this has to do with my anime series, you've been warned. Anyway, as im working with the writing team one person asked if im going to do any "green" topics, and i asked "why the hell would i do that?" to which they replied "because its the right thing to do". I immediately fired that jackass and began to think, why the hell must EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING from our world have to translate into our mediums? Whatever happened to creative thinking, making new and exciting problems and conflicts for our characters to overcome rather than just drag our problems for them to solve like as if they're our servants instead of their own selves? Or am i just so far out of the box that i need to go looking for it?
 

DeadlyYellow

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Aw what, being economically friendly not a big enough hurdle for your character to conquer?

Although unless you're going the Captain Planet route, I doubt it would be needed for anything. What is this anime series anyway?
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
Aw what, being economically friendly not a big enough hurdle for your character to conquer?

Although unless you're going the Captain Planet route, I doubt it would be needed for anything. What is this anime series anyway?
super hero anime, basically good guys kicking the crap out of bad guys. 1st episode they have to stop a giant turtle that shoots shoop-da-whoop lazers, farts lightning and is exactly 1 and 3/4 in. shorter than godzilla
 

Internet Kraken

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If a character is facing a problem that is similar to one many people face in real life, it gives the series relevance. Shouldn't this be obvious?
 

Pegghead

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I suppose they feel it adds a layer of relativity to the subject matter. If pulled off subtly and gently it can be pretty good, if it's out-right obvious and the whole plots drenched with it then it just feel stupid.
 

Neshel

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People in the media have the means to reach the general population more than anyone else. You can just do whatever you want, and there's no reason you have to include every important topic there is because then it just becomes a medium for public service announcements and people will probably hate it. Still, if you can work something in subtly and without beating your viewers over the head with it then you're doing a service to humanity, wielding your power responsibly and all that. Of course, if it doesn't fit then it doesn't fit, but it's still a worthwhile consideration.

Regardless, throwing out ideas without any due consideration because it appears too "in the box" seems like a bad idea to me.
 

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Eh, I kind of agree. It is true that stories should communicate something, take a stance on some issue, because the conflict has to happen between two different ideals and/or worldviews. But admittedly, I think it's better when the issues are more general. For instance, a "green" theme would honestly just annoy me, but bring it down to more "right vs. wrong" type themes and you're good.
 

Vrex360

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I thought it was just because people like something relatable. It's hard to care about the issues revolving characters in an entirely made up universe, we need something to take back from it and often the best way to do that is mirror our own society and give something to relate to.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Way to fire someone pointlessly, I guess.
Oh wow. I didn't even notice that when I first read his post.

Seriously? You fired someone for making a harmless suggestion? That's just crazy. It's okay if you didn't like the idea, but you shouldn't get rid of him because of it.
 

Naheal

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MaxTheReaper said:
Yeah, that's some crazy, over-reactionary bullshit there.
But then we live in a world where people write unnecessarily provocative news titles in order to make people click on them in a rage only to find out that the story within barely connects to the title.
Are you suggesting he quit and work for Fox?
 

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You know what? I have an idea. Instead of doing a direct "green aesop" (e.g. "attack of the pissed off trees") or doing what you did - firing the guy basically for nothing - you could do a moral about... i dunno... basic responsibility, maybe? Remember - much of the damage to our world, including the ecosystem, comes from people who just don't care. And those people will always be there, regardless of the setting.
 

shadowstriker86

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Internet Kraken said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Way to fire someone pointlessly, I guess.
Oh wow. I didn't even notice that when I first read his post.

Seriously? You fired someone for making a harmless suggestion? That's just crazy. It's okay if you didn't like the idea, but you shouldn't get rid of him because of it.
no i got rid of him for alot of reasons, but that was the straw that broke the camles back. long story short i have 2 firing policies, being a complete asshole or being a flake. he was the latter.
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
Internet Kraken said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Way to fire someone pointlessly, I guess.
Oh wow. I didn't even notice that when I first read his post.

Seriously? You fired someone for making a harmless suggestion? That's just crazy. It's okay if you didn't like the idea, but you shouldn't get rid of him because of it.
no i got rid of him for alot of reasons, but that was the straw that broke the camles back. long story short i have 2 firing policies, being a complete asshole or being a flake. he was the latter.
Regardless of what else he did, it still seems ridiculous to fire him just for making a harmless suggestion. Nobody is going to want to share ideas if they can be fired over them.
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
DeadlyYellow said:
Aw what, being economically friendly not a big enough hurdle for your character to conquer?

Although unless you're going the Captain Planet route, I doubt it would be needed for anything. What is this anime series anyway?
super hero anime, basically good guys kicking the crap out of bad guys. 1st episode they have to stop a giant turtle that shoots shoop-da-whoop lazers, farts lightning and is exactly 1 and 3/4 in. shorter than godzilla
Shorter than Godzilla? Well, that explins why he's an evil monster then. Maybe he's compensating...

Anyway, I don't particularly care if something I enjoy watching decides to start commentting on different real world issues. Unless it detracts from the experience of the show/film/game/etc. For example, the Scrubs episode where they're alla rguing over the Iraq War and their political affiliations is an example of issues-in-fiction done right. But it it's done badly, then and only then do I get annoyed.