Why EA? Just why?

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Lunar Templar

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Iwata said:
Without EA, many of the games we play would simply not exist, at all, period.
and yet .... nothing of value would be lost if EA vanished. i can think of nothing EA has made that would be missed for more then 5 minutes, at best

boag said:
Do you honestly believe that Without EA Gaming would be worse off?
i think I'd be better off with out a few big publishers actually. they do more to hurt gaming then anything else imo
 

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Rawne1980 said:
Now, games feel like a constant investment. You have the initial "deposit" and then fork out for DLC, addons, expansions and whatever else have you.
What game requires you to do this? I can't seem to remember the last time I felt forced to get the DLC for something.
 

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LiquidSolstice said:
What game requires you to do this? I can't seem to remember the last time I felt forced to get the DLC for something.
At what point did I say forced?

Point out to me where I said forced....

I said they feel like a constant investment not you are forced to constantly pour money on them.

At one point, we paid for the game and that was it. There was no DLC or added content.

Now if you want to see all a game has to offer then it's done through DLC.

Thus it feeling like a constant investment.

At no point did I mention it being forced.
 

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EA buys developer. EA ruins developer. EA closes developer when no one buys now-shitty developer's games.

 

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So much EA-hate. They've done a lot of really stupid things on so many levels, ranging from lying, overpricing and insulting our intelligence. But, why single them out? They aren't the only ones. Sega, Microsoft Game Studios and Activision are also very guilty of this, too.

Am I going to boycott any of them? No. I'd like to get Sega's new version of Sonic CD, I'd like to try me some Gears of War sometime, and see what all the hype is about, I'm anxiously-awaiting the arrival of [Prototype 2] and I'd also like to see what Crysis is like.

Hate goes one way, hate goes another. The more you push it, the further the cycle presses on.

Captcha: "Mumbo Jumbo". Eekum-Bokum. I want Rareware back.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Because Bullfrog.

Because Westwood.

Because Bioware.

Because Criterion.

Because Lands of Lore.

Because they fucking ruin every single thing they touch.
You forgot Pandemic in there.

No mercs 3? Why? WHY?
 

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Emiscary said:
EA's not your girlfriend. Why do you care if she's being picked on?
I agree with this statement. I have never understood people running to defend such things. The question, EA doesn't care about you, why do you care about it comes to mind?
 

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For me what broke the camels back were the bans for modding your single player games (here), after that i cancelled that (seldom used) SW:ToR account and will avoid doing buisness with EA as much as possible, which is a pain because in mexico they sell all their 60 USD titles for around 47 USD.

And no, Activision doesn't do this, Ubisoft doesn't do this, Capcom doesn't either, AFAIK no one has ever banned users from their online distribution system for modding their freaking single player ini files nor has done DRM software specifically to prevent modding. Fuck EA.

Lugbzurg said:
So here you have this brilliant multiplayer combat game with a shitty single player mode and an absolutely hair pullingly frustrating online interface, all because of EA.
And they don't even provide dedicated servers... sigh. Though to be fair nowdays their online interface is just bad and looks amateurish, not horrible and totally broken. And don't remind me of Punkbuster killing my PC till i changed some stuff in the system...
A shame, BF 3 with the proper support could grow to epic proportions.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Because Bullfrog.

Because Westwood.

Because Bioware.

Because Criterion.

Because Lands of Lore.

Because they fucking ruin every single thing they touch.
Also Origin Systems. That tanked the minute EA picked them up. Or do I have to talk about Ultima 8 and 9? Among other games they pumped out that were crap.
 

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Tanakh said:
For me what broke the camels back were the bans for modding your single player games (here), after that i cancelled that (seldom used) SW:ToR account and will avoid doing buisness with EA as much as possible, which is a pain because in mexico they sell all their 60 USD titles for around 47 USD.

And no, Activision doesn't do this, Ubisoft doesn't do this, Capcom doesn't either, AFAIK no one has ever banned users from their online distribution system for modding their freaking single player ini files nor has done DRM software specifically to prevent modding. Fuck EA.

Lugbzurg said:
So here you have this brilliant multiplayer combat game with a shitty single player mode and an absolutely hair pullingly frustrating online interface, all because of EA.
And they don't even provide dedicated servers... sigh. Though to be fair nowdays their online interface is just bad and looks amateurish, not horrible and totally broken. And don't remind me of Punkbuster killing my PC till i changed some stuff in the system...
A shame, BF 3 with the proper support could grow to epic proportions.
Actually, I didn't say that. You're quoting MichiganMuscle77. It's ok, I accidentally did that the other day.
 

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Origin does suck immensely. I dont care how many times people say it doesn't it breaches human privacy by scanning your computer for software it deems inappropriate. It should be illegal end of story.

As for E.A, some games I enjoy from E.A but 90% are factory farmed games to fill up retail shelves with a lot of flaws. MA3 I would of bought probably if not for the origin software required, regardless of the ending.

source "http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/09/eas-origin-wants-to-scan-your-pc-and-invade-your-privacy/"
 

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Fappy said:
Pretty much what everyone else has said. EA is the Phage of the industry.

Wouldn't a better example have been Emerakul?
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID41950/images/roe_emrakul.png
I mean if you're going by the books, Phage wasn't that bad. She simply beat out the competition that was trying to beat her out first. Victim of circumstance really.
If you're going by the card, it's overly useless these days.
7 mana, 4 of which is colored. 4/4, no first strike so most creatures will smack her down pretty easily. No easy way to put her out, you HAVE to pay that 7 unless you have something to reduce the cost. If you try to get her in any other way you lose, literally. To my knowledge there is only one other card that say, "You lose the game", and that's used against an opponent.
No haste. And 2 mana is the most needed to kill her.

Emrakul however cannot be stopped from coming into play unless you are holding Time Stop, which literally says end the turn, remove this and all spells on the stack from the game. It's protected by just about anything you can throw at it and Wizards had to make a loophole in their poor wording on a card a rule just to hurt it.
It's 15 cost is nullified by the fact that it's all colorless, and was printed in a set that was rampant with mana explosion. I've seen him hit on turn 3.

Phage is nothing, at worst, Capcom.

Emrakul is the product of poor planning, shortsighted business practice, power hunger, and bad ideas. It's too big for itself, is far too unregulated, it does nothing but attempt to squash the competition until it is illegally the only player left in the game and nobody wants it around. JUST like EA.
You read pretty far into that, haha.

I used Phage because everything she touches dies, much like every developer EA swallows up :p
 

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Why do people hate EA? I think the thread has already given some of the reasons. Another reason is their incredibly bad PR. Even if I try to give them the benefit of the doubt or try to look past their flaws and not single them out for hatred, they always do some stupid dick move that reminds me why I hate them.

I can't think of anything they have done that I like. They have said that they intend to force multiplayer into all of their games, even the ones that don't need it. They also have really damn annoying DLC in all of their games now. They pretty mch cut parts of the game out just for DLC, they charge 800 points for a single crappy mission or some weapons in their RPG games like Mass effect and dragon age.

They just do all this crap and then have terrible PR which makes us hate them even more. Although I don't boycott games just because of EA, it does leave a huge black mark on a game if they made it so that I probably won't get it. This is the reason I didn't get ME3, it just didn't seem good enough for me to enjoy it over all of the crap that came with it.
 

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Well, the Spore thing really pissed me off, all of it, the DRM, the changes that ruined how awesome it was going to be, everything, after buying Spore and getting so pissed off I pretty much decided that I wasn't going to buy EA products anymore, of course stuff like Pandemic's destruction and other stuff like their stupid marketing and some other stuff just made me feel like doing this, which is a shame actually because right now I'm dying to play the older Ultima games, Wing Commander 3 and the Crusader games, but I can't buy them because that would be giving money to EA, so I just don't get to play them.
As to why single out EA, well I don't think they are being singled out, and they certainly aren't the only one I don't buy from for example, I don't buy Valve products because I dislike Steam, mostly because I hate having to log-in to play single player games, and don't mention Steam Offline mode, it's completely worthless, but anyway, I think people just need a company to use as an example and EA got picked up as the company that's going to be used as an example.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Because Bullfrog.

Because Westwood.

Because Bioware.

Because Criterion.

Because Lands of Lore.

Because they fucking ruin every single thing they touch.
This. Also EA killed my wife and ate my hamster.
 

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Iwata said:
Emiscary said:
EA's not your girlfriend. Why do you care if she's being picked on?
I will adress this.

EA is indeed not "my girlfriend", but it does seem like people have lost objectivity. EA is a publisher, and a powerful one at that. Without EA, many of the games we play would simply not exist, at all, period. I started playing EA games back in the days of the Mega Drive, and I still fondly remember their logo as a symbol of quality. And back then, if, say, "Road Rash" didn't have enough tracks or if it ended too soon, we would not go on a hypocritical "crusade" against the company, cynicaly denouncing it while playing their games. I'd be happy knowing I enjoyed the majority of the game, because no game is perfect.

The issue of entitlement has been thrown around a lot, and most gamers defend the rights of their community without pausing to think things through. as if the whole debacle with ME3 wasn't enough, this thing with Dark Souls is simply ridicullous: "We demand Dark Souls on the PC!"

Lo and behold, they give you "Dark Souls" on the PC, even though making games for the PC these days is pretty much just asking for trouble.

But wait... it's GFWL...

"We demand the game come out on Steam!"

What next? Are we to start setting prices as well? Level designs? I trust professionals to make the games I play, and I've found that the more some communities get involved, the more things fall apart from the game's original vision.

I'm not saying EA are angels. But I cannot join this mass movement against a company whose games I enjoy. And if they release a product I don't like, then I simply! Don't! Buy it!

Feel free to rant away now.
Sorry, Dark Souls wasn't published by EA, it was published by Namco Bandai. and the whole Dark Souls thing is perfectly reasonable and fine. GFWL doesn't work. it never has.

EA is a bad company because it has ruined several studios, DLC practices, Online passes, and Origin being a complete spying program.
They just suck.