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Varewulf

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Whenever someone uses the word "soccer", it annoys me. If I think too much about it, it infuriates me. And I don't even like sports. It's just another pet peeve. Why do the North Americans call that rugby-knockoff of theirs football? And why rename the game the rest of the world calls football something nonsensical like "soccer"? It would be like if instead of baseball, they had named that game handball, then what the rest of the world calls handball, they'd name something like... bopping. Though I'm sure I'm not the only who sees a slight pattern regarding baseBall, footBall and basketBall.

Even so, the way football has been handled has annoyed me for years. It seems to petty. Like if after the revolutionary war, the US-ians were so pissed off at the Brits that they went: "Alright, so their favourite game is called football, right? I say we make a new and better football! That'll show 'em!"

It's really the best explanation I can personally come up with, since in the US version the feet and the ball don't really interact much. In fact, it's not even a ball. There's a rather famous, if somewhat too obvious, saying in football that the ball is round. The American Rugby thing is not round. So calling it a ball is a stretch of the imagination.

I did hear quite some years ago that the reason, or rather; excuse, it was called football, is because the "ball" is a foot long. That could simply be something that person pulled out of their arse at the time.

Oh I'm sorry, is my European showing?

~Wulf

PS! On a more placating note, I didn't do any research before writing this thing, I just woke up in the middle of the night with an urge to rant. So for all I know there could be a perfectly valid reason, but that won't stop me obsessing over it.
 

FalloutJack

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I feel that the research you're conducting into this could levee the answer by looking into the history-and-invention of the American football sport. I'm sure you're not the only one with the contention in mind. On a lighter note, maybe they didn't want to call it something like soccer?
 

nunqual

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Soccer is a term that was in fact, invented by British people. Everyone understand that?! GAH!

Now to explain, it had something to do with the term association football. Association-> Soccer.
 

Benmonkey7

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Well I remember reading some article about why Americans (of which I am one of) call it soccer and it was actually from some British group that made it up.
EDIT:http://sports.peacefmonline.com/soccer/201007/54070.php
There is the article I found.
 

Balmong7

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link
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_American_football_called_%27football%27

for those of you too lazy
Some might say, simply, "because they kick the football." But the real story is deeper. The origin of Gridiron (American football) is in the history of the world's most popular sport: Football (soccer). When soccer -- more universally known as "football" (which of course makes sense because football players use their feet) -- players decided to change their centuries-old game with restrictions such as the no-use-of- hand rules, people who disliked this broke away to create rugby. In the states we have created our own version of the game under the same old name "football" (Gridiron) with more of a rugby style, the whole time forgetting why we call it that. Here are other answers: * Gridiron (American football) is a derivative of rugby football, and while the feet are used more often in rugby than on the gridiron, much of the game is still played by handling the ball. Both variations are still considered football. * North America style Gridiron (American football) didn't used to allow the "forward pass" and much more of the play involved foot work, such as the "drop kick" and the running punt kick. In the first rules, only the " side pass" was allowed, as long as the two players were side by side, with no forward motion of the ball, similar to rugby rules. The Canadian Football League ( CFL ) still allows a drop kick to score a field goal, and also has a thing called a "safety" when the kicker is able to kick the ball through the end zone, so it lands out of play. Both the NFL and the CFL still have the drop-kick available as a weapon - on the point-after-touchdown, or from the field for 3 points. The "safety" is worth a single point here in Canada. The Canadian game also features the ability, on fumbles to kick the ball, but not on incomplete passes. They also feature a 'touch back' which is a tackle in the end-zone, which is worth two points. == Answer == The global name for football is of course football. The global name for american football is Gridiron. Gridiron is a code of handball and not football. Football is a sport where players control the ball with their feet and only football does this. Gridiron is where hands are used to control a ball. Football has been played for many centuries but had no official rules. The British created rules for football in 1848. After that many codes of handball arose including rugger and gridiron, none of which are codes of football. Football, known only in Canada and the USA as soccer (a nickname termed by the English), is the worlds most popular sport. There are many reasons for this. In football you mainly use your feet, chest and head thus making the ball always open and so the game is fast paced and demands intelligence and a vast array of techniques. In football size is not as important as in Basketball, Gridiron or rugby, so anyone with skill can become good at it. Rich and poor alike can play the game as it requires little equipment at a basic level, although at the top level it is the richest sport on earth by some way. Though Gridiron in US is largely made up of people from poor areas as the NFL is predominantly contested by blacks from downtrodden parts, slums, ghettos, given scholarships to play. Baseball too is played by many poor in the likes of Cuba, Dominican Republic. Football is watched and played by more than any other sport globally mainly due to the excitement of hoping to see a goal and the importance each goal scored has on the flow of the match. Its 90 minutes non stop action. Gridiron on the otherhand is constant stop start and spread out up to a 4 hour marathon....in that period the average actual playing time of an NFL Gridiron game is 12 minutes which is one of endless reasons why its never been accepted outside US. Easy scoring is another reason as teams get the entire width of the pitch and also don't even have to touch the ball down...also get multiple attempts to do so. Each year Football becomes more popular than the year before, no other sports have ever been able to achieve this over such a long period of time. Gridiron on the other hand is played almost entirely by Americans as every attempt made to spread the game has largely failed with leagues folding due to zero fan interest..examples being the "World League"..and more recently "NFL Europe" as one report summed it up by stating "not only did most Europeans not know it collapsed, they didn't even know it existed". Or because the ball is about a foot long. == Answer == It's a reflection of American football's origins. The first football type of game that colleges played in North America was almost identical to what became soccer: You scored by kicking a goal. But every school had its own rules. That was true even over in England, before the Football Association was created to establish a standard set of rules. Over here in the USA, we had no such governing body, so the schools took it upon themselves to sit down and draw up their own set of rules that everyone could agree on.

In an age when overseas communications took weeks, if not months, Americans lived in relative isolation from their football counterparts in Europe and thus weren't able to easily keep tabs on how the game was progressing there. So Americans (and Canadians) took it upon themselves to sort things out on their own and draw up a set of rules that appealed to them. Although most schools in North America were playing some variety of soccer, others, including Harvard, preferred a game that was more like rugby. When the schools first met to discuss a set of rules, Harvard pressed to base their common rules on the English rugby code, and they prevailed. From that point on, the American version of football began to develop out of rugby instead of soccer.
The same process of codifying rules had happened in England, too: After the Football Association was formed, some clubs disagreed over which rules to use -- primarily, the rule that governed the use of hands in the game. Those who favored prohibiting the hands formed the Football Association, and those who wanted to use the hands as part of the game eventually went on to form the first Rugby Football Union.

The American game could just as easily have been called American rugby, but since everyone was already calling it "football," the name stuck. Besides, in the early days, the American game was much more kicking-oriented than it is now. When there was no forward pass and kicks could be taken from anywhere on the field, teams would frequently dropkick to try to score, or they'd use a deep punt as a defensive strategy, if their running game was getting bogged down. It was only when the forward pass was legalized and kicks were limited to those taken from behind the line of scrimmage that the feet began to play a less prominent role in the American game. But again, everyone already called the game football, so there was no reason to change it.

Just keep in mind that what we call "rugby" is actually "rugby football," yet rugby players handle the ball as much as they kick it. What most of the world calls simply "football" is technically "association football," from the name of its founding and governing body. When soccer and rugby split, the association game simply adopted "football" as its name, while rugby football focused on the first part of its name. That doesn't mean one game is football while the other isn't. They're still both football games with a shared origin.
What's more, since the soccer/rugby split, other football-related games have evolved to emphasize other parts of the body to propel the ball. In fact, of the world's six major football codes -- soccer, rugby league, rugby union, Australian rules football, American (gridiron) football, and Gaelic football -- soccer is the only one that prohibits use of the hands. And they all employ kicking strategies to a greater or lesser extent.
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Varewulf

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FalloutJack said:
On a lighter note, maybe they didn't want to call it something like soccer?
Possible. I would named have named it Skullduggery, and made the helmets to look like skulls. While using using actual skulls might seem more interesting, they wouldn't fit unless they were from... some... animal... ... hang on, I might be on to something here.
 

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Varewulf said:
PS! On a more placating note, I didn't do any research before writing this thing, I just woke up in the middle of the night with an urge to rant. So for all I know there could be a perfectly valid reason, but that won't stop me obsessing over it.
If you did research than you might not have been able to rant, so good move. Although it also may have given you something else to rant about, hmm....

Anyway, yes America (I'm from there if that matters) seems to change stuff a lot: football, the letter Z, removing Us from words and shit. I dunno, people weird.

Although my real reason for posting is simply, why is soccer nonsense? I mean, yeah football, baseball, basketball all make sense, so changing is weird. But, and I know very little of language, there are plenty of sports with names that make the same amount of sense as soccer from a non-changing the name perspective. Tennis, badminton, curling, uh... rugby maybe I dunno.

I guess my point is that any language/terminology can look pretty silly if you are looking from the right perspective.

edit: oh and I also did no research beyond making sure I spelled badminton right.
 

SimuLord

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I don't care what they call it, Euro football beats American football every day and twice on Sunday. Yep, that's right EVEN SUNDAY.

American football bores me. And I'm an American sports fan.
 

Fox334

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This is what happened:

Football is not actually a sport, but a family of sports. What people usually call Football is actually Association Football (FIFA actually stands for Fédération International de Football Associer, or International Association Football Federation). Association Football (the word Soccer comes from Association, btw) is a sport that developed from various form of medieval Football, from which Rugby Football (Rugby since it originated in Rugby, well, at Rugby in this case, since Rugby is a boarding school) also came from (Gaelic Football is also derived from there). From Rugby Football various other sports came into existence, notably American and later Canadian Football, Australian Football, etc.

Essentially, its improper to refer to any single sport as just "Football", since Football refers to a family of sports with the same origin (yes fanboys, American Football and "Soccer" have the same ancestry).
 

zehydra

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The word "Soccer" is British, and we (Americans) adopted it.

It's just dialect. Try not to care about it as much as you do, stressing over language unfortunately just leads to more stress, as there is really nothing you can do about it.

There are a lot of things I hate about English that I wish I could change, but I can't.
 

Varewulf

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Balmong7 said:
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_American_football_called_%27football%27

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Gridiron is an awesome name though... I would have stuck with that, though the theory about how the games are played on-foot is why they're all called football in some sense of other also makes sense.

Research paying off already? Have to love that.

Also, the Brits themselves came up with Soccer? I should have known... I didn't, but I should. I was actually thinking how soccer sounded more in the vein of cricket when it came to sports-naming than the US's usual MO.
 

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burningdragoon said:
But, and I know very little of language, there are plenty of sports with names that make the same amount of sense as soccer from a non-changing the name perspective. Tennis, badminton, curling, uh... rugby maybe I dunno.

I guess my point is that any language/terminology can look pretty silly if you are looking from the right perspective.

edit: oh and I also did no research beyond making sure I spelled badminton right.
Well, here it is:
Tennis: Commes from French Tenez, meaning hold (as in hold this racket).
Badminton: Named after its place of origin
Curling: Because the rocks curl
Rugby (Football): Named after its place of origin
 

Varewulf

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Ack, don't get me started on language or dialects... then we'll be here all night. It's one of my favourite topics to gush/rant/etc about. Even just sticking to Norwegian dialects could keep me going for hours, and that's equally true of British vs American English.
 

lightningmagurn

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Football was actually based off an ancient English tradition where two villages would decide who was right by trying to get a ball (often a human head) from one village to the next. All the men would come out and beat the god out of eachother and then go home. It has evolved.
Edit: we do what we want.
 

burningdragoon

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Fox334 said:
burningdragoon said:
But, and I know very little of language, there are plenty of sports with names that make the same amount of sense as soccer from a non-changing the name perspective. Tennis, badminton, curling, uh... rugby maybe I dunno.

I guess my point is that any language/terminology can look pretty silly if you are looking from the right perspective.

edit: oh and I also did no research beyond making sure I spelled badminton right.
Well, here it is:
Tennis: Commes from French Tenez, meaning hold (as in hold this racket).
Badminton: Named after its place of origin
Curling: Because the rocks curl
Rugby (Football): Named after its place of origin
Why thank you Mr. Smartypants... er Fox334. It's more fun to think all the names were decided all willy-nilly though :p
 

FalloutJack

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Varewulf said:
FalloutJack said:
On a lighter note, maybe they didn't want to call it something like soccer?
Possible. I would named have named it Skullduggery, and made the helmets to look like skulls. While using using actual skulls might seem more interesting, they wouldn't fit unless they were from... some... animal... ... hang on, I might be on to something here.
This wouldn't work on the Steelers.
 

Varewulf

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FalloutJack said:
Varewulf said:
FalloutJack said:
On a lighter note, maybe they didn't want to call it something like soccer?
Possible. I would named have named it Skullduggery, and made the helmets to look like skulls. While using using actual skulls might seem more interesting, they wouldn't fit unless they were from... some... animal... ... hang on, I might be on to something here.
This wouldn't work on the Steelers.
We could... rename them Stealers and they'd wear the skulls they've stolen from their defeated foes? Or allow them to make skulls out of steel.
 

FalloutJack

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Varewulf said:
FalloutJack said:
Varewulf said:
FalloutJack said:
On a lighter note, maybe they didn't want to call it something like soccer?
Possible. I would named have named it Skullduggery, and made the helmets to look like skulls. While using using actual skulls might seem more interesting, they wouldn't fit unless they were from... some... animal... ... hang on, I might be on to something here.
This wouldn't work on the Steelers.
We could... rename them Stealers and they'd wear the skulls they've stolen from their defeated foes? Or allow them to make skulls out of steel.
Skulls of steel is better. The Steeler name is after the Pittburgh history of steel mills and such, so...yeah.