Why i hate fallout 3.

[Viking_IV]

So many seems to think that Fallout 3 is meant to be our future, but it isn't. It is an alternate timeline that diverged from ours at some point in the 50s, where in the 50s style never died out. Others have mentioned this before, but they haven't yet mentioned that the laws of physics in Fallout are also different. Their based of what the 50s thought of nuclear energy and radiation. To them radiation made things grow large, vicious and crazed, the whole Godzilla thing, despite the fact that we know now that all radiation really does to a living thing is kill it. Many things that we understand about nuclear war, such as nuclear winter, were not developed in the 50s and thus are likely to have not occurred at all.

Moving on, I agree with some of your point on the lack of factions to diversify things, but by the late game there are some factions you can join through your Perks, the Lawbringer perk if you are Good and the Contract Killer perk if you are Evil. They don't add much to the story or gameplay, but they are a nice touch.

The voice acting in Fallout was far superior to Oblivion, not least because it feels like you can count the number of voice actors in Oblivion on one hand. Fallout had a greater variety of voice actors, and lacked any 'Begger' syndrome, although both suffered from poor character animation.

 

[anondudekyle]

No one who ever played fallout 1 and 2 or even tactics(me) would agree with its hype, and i preferred Oblivion to it(though i preferred Morrowind to that, more immerisive) but its not necessarily a bad game, fun for a while and a 7.5 at least, though it gets repetitive

 

[glimmrang]

Well lets see after a atomic war wouldn't you think every thing would be a wasteland and with all the names and shit that's is asking the developers to make a whole new game which if you paid any attention they clearly stated "We wanted to make a fallout game a true squeal" but I agree retro theme is kind of wired but look at lore the time-line split around the 1950s.

 

[ThatJagoGuy]

The only things I didn't like were:

1. The songs on the radio were waaaay too limited
2. The fact that the end is the end and you're not allowed to further explore and sub-quest.


Besides these, I frickin' loved it. I'm gonna have to get the GotY edition when it's released!

 

[Booze Zombie]

Whoring a frachise!? Tactics and brotherhood of steel were whoring the franchise. Bethesda breathed some life into the otherwise dead series.

To the OP, I disagree with your opinion but respect it, I hope you have better luck finding a game you like in future.

Yeah, the whoring started with BoS and Tactics, Bethesda just kept up the tradition What-The-Fuck Chuck started.

 

[hagaya]

Fallout 3 has Liam Neeson.

And with that:
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[Mantonio]

Well, that's just your opinion. I find it to be rather stupid and ill-informed, but it's an opinion nonetheless.

But really, all your complaints, about the retro-futurism, the giant cockroaches, the purposefully overdone super mutants, these are all what Fallout IS. You're annoyed about the wastelands and the weird, mutated wildlife? What did you expect?

From what you've said it's clear that you dislike all that Fallout is, and therefore the only reason you bought the game must be because you didn't bother to research it (or any of the previous games) first. Therefore you've only got yourself to blame for your disappointment. QED.

 

[PacDwell]

My thoughts;

1. Oblivion does indeed have wondrous environments and visuals (IMHO still the best jaw-dropping moments). Fallout 3 was never going to be realistic...it's the future 'as seen from the perspective of the 1950's'. Remember the old 50's movies with giant ants, and fusion cars...that's what they/we thought the future be like.

2. I don't think you did understand it...and it be fair, neither did I at first...but I read the manual again.

3. The voice acting is definitely better in Fallout 3 (no doubt about it).

4. You can win the trust of a little girl, and send her off to be abducted by slavers...and you say you can't join the bad guys? This is simply the most evil moral choice I have seen in any game...never mind Oblivion.

5. It's only a name - this point is clutching at straws.

6. I thought there was...

7. Strange that Oblivion did immerse you...in one word - HOW?

I've played both games extensively, both have pro's and con's, I think Fallout 3 edges it though in terms on playability. Oblivion looks really sweet though.

 

[Valkyira]

Fallout 3 is the best game ever made. no matter what game you look at there is always going to be some things wrong with it.

 

[letsnoobtehpwns]

Fallout 3 is my second favorite game.

 

[Gunstar Hero]

I'm old enough to remember the impact the first Fallout game made. I loved that game so much and I remember very fondly slamming Fallout 2 into my disc drive and kissing my summer holiday good bye. I literally couldnt get enough of the games. I downloaded the Fallout pen and paper role playing game, I even sat through the god awful ps2 game to the end just out of principle and I for one, still have Tactics installed on my laptop and really love that game too.

Which is why i find it so hard to understand why i really, really, dislike Fallout 3.

Im not a fanboy in that sense that no matter what, i was going to be disillusioned with the game. I rate Bethesda so highly and really think that, cosmetically at least, they have done a great job bringing Fallout into glorious HD 3D. The game looks great.

But, its just lacking something. Hell, to be frank, I found it a bit boring. After about thirty minutes I realised I honestly didnt care about the story, the people, or anything to do with the whole game. There was no sense of wonder. It took me about twenty minutes to find and kill my first super mutant, and I was armed with some crappy rifle.

In the old games, the first time you happened across Super Mutants you'd panic, and hide, even if you were equipped with a mini gun, you'd think twice about taking them on. In this version, I didnt fear them or anything, really. Even the final scenes with the Enclave were just an excercise in button clicking. I mean, c'mon, faced with the president finally I managed to talk him into suicide in about two minutes. Wheres the challenge or the sense of scale in that? It seemed less of a game rather than an excercise in walking from A to B via subways tunnels C,D,E (etc) and ticking off another required element of a Fallout game. Mutants, tick. Ghouls, tick. Brotherhood of Steel, tick. Enclave, tick. So on and so forth.


Who knows, maybe I am a massive fanboy afterall and how much I loved the previous games has tainted my enjoyment of this one. But, regardless, I do feel Fallout 3 is massively overrated and doesnt deserve the constant praise its got from most circles.

 

[PacDwell]

The only things I didn't like were:

1. The songs on the radio were waaaay too limited
2. The fact that the end is the end and you're not allowed to further explore and sub-quest.


Besides these, I frickin' loved it. I'm gonna have to get the GotY edition when it's released!

1. GNR Radio Mod...you can add 100 near-authentic 50's songs
2. Broken Steel...lets you continue...

 

[EisBaron]

There's A Troll in the Dungeon!

 

[duckfi8]

oblivion doesn't have guns

 

[Susano]

I will agree that elder scrolls is better than fallout but i wont agree with the fact that fallout is crap. There are key things in fallout that i would love for them to bring over into the elder scrolls series:
1) the leveling system- no need to sleep and exp is gained from doing multiple things e.g disarming traps



the leveling system in oblivion made much more sense than fallout. The more you use a certain skill the better you get with it i and sure that you dont have to sleep to level up is cool but just oblivions leveling system made more sense in my opinion. btw getting exp for disarming traps and unlocking doors is pretty sweet

I preferred the Fallout leveling system because it's quicker to level, you don't have to grind, and as someone said in a different thread a while ago, you don't have to have a planner of what you're going to do each day if you want to get max skills. That was really my only annoyance about Oblivion.

Pssst! Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It's a Fallout game... or trying to be one anyway.

Get over it.

I only got it BECAUSE I like oblivion , and as such my like of Oblivion INFLUENCED me to get Fallout 3, as is why i am comparing them.

If you got this because you liked Oblivion, you were severely disillusioned. It is not just "oblivion with guns". It is an entirely different series, style and genre. There was no way the two would be the same. Also about the 50's style, it was described as a 50's view of the future, not what actually happened.

 

[Hazy]

So, right, let me get this straight: You've never played the originals, correct? Then your view is invalid, and you're not entitled to complain about the game, unlike myself, who has played Fallout 1 and 2 in depth, and therefore has the entitlement to complain about the third game in the series.

Until you've played the originals, you really haven't got much of a clue about where Bethesda went wrong (and indeed, where it got things right). I hereby rescind the validity of your rant against the series until you've played 1 and 2, and realised exactly why they're retrofuturistic, and where the Brotherhood of Steel actually came from.

Ch'yeah! Hardcore Fans FTW!
Ehem, Sorry, Had to get that out of the way. Now then, I completely agree with Rak in this case.

 

[Sparrow]

Well, let me making something clear. I highly dislike you.

Alot of your points are based off comparisons to other games. Fair enough, maybe it's a good thing to compare games. However, if one uber game came out, the whole world of gaming would be equal to moot. So you can't compare it to ONE game, because everyone had different tastes. It would be like saying you hate meat, because your a vegatarian. Us many omnivores out here would disagree.

And on a side note, the voice acting is not worse than Oblivion. Nothing is worse than that pissfest of a voice acting failure. Oblivion is a good game, but I litterally avoided conversation. Especially with nameless NPCs.

So, right, let me get this straight: You've never played the originals, correct? Then your view is invalid, and you're not entitled to complain about the game, unlike myself, who has played Fallout 1 and 2 in depth, and therefore has the entitlement to complain about the third game in the series.

Until you've played the originals, you really haven't got much of a clue about where Bethesda went wrong (and indeed, where it got things right). I hereby rescind the validity of your rant against the series until you've played 1 and 2, and realised exactly why they're retrofuturistic, and where the Brotherhood of Steel actually came from.

Also, a thousand times THIS. Rak summed up alot of points that I can't really express here. Although harsh, you can't diss the backstory when you haven't played the originals. They're just trying to cater to the old fans, however much they still hate the game.

 

[Mirroga]

I hate Fallout 3 for four reasons:

1. Story mission was a joke
2. An RPG game in which you are able to max all abilities takes away the replayability of the game
3. People who have no online compatibility (like me) are left out from all the updates and bug fixes
4. The perk choices are a joke (75% of them are just for gimmicks)

I can also say they will never create Fallout 4. Bethesda, pls make another FPS/TPS/RPG game in which online compatibility is not needed.

 

[A010110100101102]

i personally loved Fallout 3, but thats no reason for me to flame you as your intitled to you own opinion, and even if i did flame you it wouldn't accomplish anything, since you would probaly still hold your opinion.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Point by point:

1. I thought the environments looked better than Oblivion.

2. That's the point of the series. It's the future, as imagined in the 1950s. Everything looks Jetsons-meets-Lost-in-Space for a reason. At least it's different from every other futuristic, everything's made of dark colored plastic, aesthetic of "realistic" futuristic games. Those games will look really dated and stupid in 200 years. Fallout 3 will just be recognized for it's wonderful aesthetic choice.

3. You kidding? The voice acting is much improved. Patrick Stewart aside.

4. Wait, you can't make just any arbitrary decision you want in a game? Did you consider that maybe the video game isn't smart and there isn't a little magic pixie living in your computer that magically puts images on the screen? There are going to be limitations to what they can do, and what they can write, to make everything work.

5. The Brotherhood of Steel... they're technophiles masquerading as righteous paladins. That's their thing. If you can come up with a better name for people who get off on Tesla Power Armor, I'd sure like to hear it.

6. You do have a reticule. It's not like you can't aim.

7. You didn't like the story because it wasn't a believable post-apocalyptic epic set in the future as seen by modern day? What did you expect when you bought Fallout 3?


I don't think you "get" the Fallout universe. Try the original or Fallout 2. They're cheap. You can get them for $6 each at GOG. I got into them fairly recently. They're good games. Very accessible. They even have good decent acting.