Why I Hate Halo (among other games)

[Frotality]

which is why i always played coop with scoring off; much more entertaining. the one time i submitted to turning individual scoring on, it was a disaster; everything enjoyable about the game was ignored by my peers in favor of killstealing and leaving everyone else to die so they could have first blood on the next group of enemies.

thats the problem with multiplayer in general these days; they dont even WANT to be fun, they want to keep you addicted to getting a bigger highscore than the other guy. at least in arcade games, you were bettering YOURSELF at the same game by trying to beat a high score; now the entire experience is meta-gamed away.

ive said it before and ill say it again; super smash bros and conkers bad fur day. both games had multiplayer pretty much entirely dedicated to screwing around with crazy weapons, levels, characters, what have you. tourney players for SSB made their own rules and do their own thing, while everyone else can bullshit around just as freely. modern multiplayer requires a dedicated group of good friends who are more interested in just hanging out then getting a triple kill, yet modern multiplayer keeps turning gamers away from that ideal and towards interactive crack; not good for you, you might not even like it, but you cant stop playing it (to the dismay of friends and family who'd rather you do something FUN with them instead of yelling at them for stealing your kill or camping).

i used to have great times with my cousins playing SSB, conker, and goldeneye. now im the only one who doesnt race through coop trying to get a high score or meta-games the fun out of versus.

 

[Konaerix]

While everyone is intitled to their own opinion, it sounds like you've got some kind of misplaced grudge because your friend made you feel bad at it...don't brand an entire series as bad just because your friends steam-rolled you the first time you played it.

Also, you know that halo had a rather nice single player mode right?

 

[Daniel Moores]

Okay, here's my bit. I have read people saying "In order to be good, you have to have the game and practice". That's all fine and good, IF you are able to get better. I am speaking as one of the very few people who actually CAN'T play shooters. I am unable to get better. I once played halo 5 hours straight, I didn't get even 1 kill better, even with my friend teaching me. Then, I played it for about an hour a day for a week, and I still wasn't better. In solo on easy I was dying 10-20 times per level. There ARE those of us who CAN'T play shooters.

 

[ZeZZZZevy]

I find that halo is perhaps more accessible to those who don't own it as opposed to the more popular fps's of today's time. Mostly because everything is constant, you don't have a preset class that you're expected to use the entire match (see COD) and there isn't any ADS with non-sighted weapons. With hip-firing more feasible, someone who isn't amazing at fps's can still play the game, but will still always be beaten by pros. If you and a bunch of friends play with one or two other guys who are amazing, and they gloat over winning, I'd laugh at them for being so proud over winning at a shooting gallery.

 

[ultrachicken]

If the last halo you played was 2, then you really ought to give Reach a chance.

 

[Palademon]

So, your complaint is you have to own the game and it's console to be good at it? So someone who owns it has more chance of winning?

Why does this logic seem overly obvious and solution seem rather reasonable?

 

[Tony2077]

i suck at mp but the sp for them is what made me like them

 

[Daniel Moores]

Okay, here's my bit. I have read people saying "In order to be good, you have to have the game and practice". That's all fine and good, IF you are able to get better. I am speaking as one of the very few people who actually CAN'T play shooters. I am unable to get better. I once played halo 5 hours straight, I didn't get even 1 kill better, even with my friend teaching me. Then, I played it for about an hour a day for a week, and I still wasn't better. In solo on easy I was dying 10-20 times per level. There ARE those of us who CAN'T play shooters.

Not really a reason to say a game is bad. It's just a genre that's not suited for you.

Very true. I was just pointing out something that a surprising amount of people aren't aware of. I do agree however that it is... illogical to say a game is bad simply because you are unable to play/can't deal with the competition. If you don't like competition, don't play multi-player games, play DnD (the board game, NOT DDO).

 

[jawakiller]

So you hat halo because you suck? That sounds like something my little sister would say. I know this may seem unnecessarily cruel but Halo isn't that hard. Maybe you're just naturally bad at it or something but I did quite well the first time I played Halo 2 (and I had a shit load of fun). Sure my friend (who owned the game) was better than me but I still had fun trying to beat him. And my two other friends playing, thank god for four player.

And why is mario cart on your list? That game is easy as fuck.

Again, sorry if this offends you but I had to speak the truth on this one.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

It seems as though most of the people who are quoting me misunderstood my post. Allow me to clarify:

I was making fun of the OP's typo. I know what Mario KART is already. I own the Wii version. I just don't use the Wifi.

Are we all crystal-clear on the issue?

 

[Daniel Moores]

So you hat halo because you suck? That sounds like something my little sister would say. I know this may seem unnecessarily cruel but Halo isn't that hard. Maybe you're just naturally bad at it or something but I did quite well the first time I played Halo 2 (and I had a shit load of fun). Sure my friend (who owned the game) was better than me but I still had fun trying to beat him. And my two other friends playing, thank god for four player.

And why is mario cart on your list? That game is easy as fuck.

Again, sorry if this offends you but I had to speak the truth on this one.

Your truth may not be HIS truth. Please keep that in mind.

 

[lady man lady]

I agree that Halo is a game you have to play a lot to be good at. When I first got a 360 I had Halo 3 and COD WaW, and I played Call of Duty, because I could hold up better online. But Halo 3 had forge, and that kept me hanging around. Eventually I had played enough custom games (mostly infection) to get proficient. I'm still not good enough to hold up very well online, but I can hold out against my friends in custom games, and custom games in Halo have been some of my best gaming experiences. So yes, Halo is hard to master, but I would never call it a bad game.

 

[Rayne870]

What the hell is "Mario *C*art" and what the hell is it doing on your list?

Sorry about that. I edited it.
Mario Cart is on the list for the simple reason that I CANNOT beat a single Asian person online.
If you ever log in to Mario Cart and play online and you see someone from Japan, Rage quit IMMEDIATELY. That is why it is on the list.

You poor dude I don't think you're gonna catch a break, kuz you did it again twice lol.

And yeah I do kind of see where you are coming from with the topic but it does boil down to, You aren't as good as the other player so why hate the game? I'm sure you are better at other games that your opponent isn't or you may just not be one of those people that is into heavy competition. If that is the case stick to split screen gameplay and if the person is totally mopping the floor with you, introduce some liquid handicap.

I'm looking forward to spending Saturday with my best bud and getting totally tanked while playing a couple of games. Which will most likely culminate in some epic struggle in a Soul Calibur game since he actually beat me 30-25 last time he was over. God damn I love our back and forth on that series, ever since SCI....now to SCIV

 

[lady man lady]

First of all, yea that's offensive. But more importantly, use better grammar! Please!

 

[jawakiller]

So you hat halo because you suck? That sounds like something my little sister would say. I know this may seem unnecessarily cruel but Halo isn't that hard. Maybe you're just naturally bad at it or something but I did quite well the first time I played Halo 2 (and I had a shit load of fun). Sure my friend (who owned the game) was better than me but I still had fun trying to beat him. And my two other friends playing, thank god for four player.

And why is mario cart on your list? That game is easy as fuck.

Again, sorry if this offends you but I had to speak the truth on this one.

Your truth may not be HIS truth. Please keep that in mind.

Halo isn't Dwarf Fortress. Its actually got a real easy learning curve, one of the easier shooters to say the least. Its still fun but the difficulty this guy is talking about doesn't sound like Halo 2. Sorry if I came across as jerkish but I'm tired of people going on about why they hate halo (or CoD for that matter).

 

[jawakiller]

Okay, here's my bit. I have read people saying "In order to be good, you have to have the game and practice". That's all fine and good, IF you are able to get better. I am speaking as one of the very few people who actually CAN'T play shooters. I am unable to get better. I once played halo 5 hours straight, I didn't get even 1 kill better, even with my friend teaching me. Then, I played it for about an hour a day for a week, and I still wasn't better. In solo on easy I was dying 10-20 times per level. There ARE those of us who CAN'T play shooters.

So does that mean you should hate it? I'm not amazing at football (in real life) but I still love the game. And if he knew he wasn't good, why did he play and expect to do better? I think this whole thread's pretty lame. He doesn't like Halo 2 or Mario because he's not very good... What?!

 

[balimuzz]

So your problem with these games is that people who play the game a lot are better at the competitive multiplayer modes than you are? I hope you realize that's how the world works. The more you do something, the better you get at it. You don't just start out being the baddest ************ around, you have to start from somewhere.

While I admit that certain online communities do have a pretty high bar for entry, I've found that Halo actually isn't all too difficult to play online. I can understand that you were crushed seeings as you don't own an Xbox or play the game regularly. However, I can't really say that this is a design flaw seeings as the developers of a game should not feel a need to cater to players that aren't actually going to purchase their game. I've never been an avid Halo fan, but I played the multiplayer for a while after I beat the campaign and after a little bit I was putting some pretty good games together.

 

[Bolleman]

I would say it depends on the mindset go into a game. I'm not good at Halo either, and I know I suck, and I generally get my ass handed to me. Which has led me to not take the game to seriously in that regard, I know I can't win, so why would I try? But I still like it, because bringing 3 friends over, and rofling around online, can bring bucketloads of fun.

Hate the player, not the game, basically.

 

[Daniel Moores]

Wow. People are misinterpreting what I was saying. I am not saying that anyone should hate a game because they can't play it. I am simply putting it out in the open that some people really just CAN'T play some games and CAN'T get better in them. Halo and other shooters are for gamers who have good reaction speeds and enjoy competition. I have NOT, I repeat NOT, said that that is a reason to hate a game. I am just sick of hearing all the ignorant bastards saying that "Halo is easy". Well for them it may be, but for others it can be one of the hardest games out there. It's just like how some people can't play RPGs because they don't have the imagination to do so. So, the game series, for shooters, is actually good. Not for everyone though. We have also gone off track, The original topic was that these games are too competitive. Which, they CAN be (except Mario Cart), that's why there are Pro gamers.
As a last note, PLEASE Think before you say a game is easy. Just because you have the right skill set to make it easy for you does not mean others do.

 

[joemegson94]

Thank you for your opinion on Halo. I'm sure the internet will file it with the other thousands of pre-existing forum posts on why people don't like it.