Why is marijuana illegal?
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That is awesome!CM156 said:
Also, my opinion on this subject when it comes up is...who cares? Most people that want to smoke pot are already doing it, and I have no problem with it. I, for one, do not participate but I don't care if my friends do it.
Also: Reefer Madness.
...I don't even know how to respond to this. Did you ignore my entire post? I went back and read it again and I didn't see the strawman. A strawman would be "If you support legalizing pot, you support driving while high!" which I've seen a couple of times. And keeping in theme of the argument here, an appropriate response would be "Well, does supporting the legality of alcohol mean you support drinking and driving?"CM156 said:
Then we get down to who we protect the people from. I've always stated that the government exists to protect people from those that would violate their property or their person without consent, and thats where that protection should end. I don't smoke pot but I drink and I smoke cigars and quite frankly it's nobody's business but my own.Phlakes said:
Pot smoking, crack, crystal meth, prostitution, gambling, alchohol consumption, and tobacco smoking are all victimless crimes and whether or not they equate with what someone else deems as moral or healthy is irrelevant.
I find that those who rely on mind affecting drugs suffer from a fundemental weakness of character which I find repulsive. However I'll not prevent them from doing so. So long as you are an able bodied, free thinking adult you can do whatever you want to yourself as far as I care. Citizens are not children and government is no parent.
Really? Let me quote for youNudu said:
That's quite clearly a straw man argument. But enough of this. We both agree, we just disagree on arguments.
geeze you must be suffering having all of those problems and also I seriously doubt it would be legal JUST because it can help those things unless it's discovered that marijuana can cure ANY of those it'll still be illegalEggsnham said:
Because people can't just smoke the legal regular stuff, they have to lace it with cocaine or chemically alter it or add glass to it and so on.
If people just grew, bought and smoke regular weed, it would be legal. Hense the reason Black Mamba is legal and can be bought in place like Tattoo parlours and similarly, a different sort of White Widow.
If people just grew, bought and smoke regular weed, it would be legal. Hense the reason Black Mamba is legal and can be bought in place like Tattoo parlours and similarly, a different sort of White Widow.
But that wouldn't happen if it wasn't controlled by steet dealers and other criminals...ELD3RGoD said:
That problem only exists because it's illegal in the first place.
I don't know about the other drugs being laced on it, but the glass thing, wasn't that to make it heavier so that the dealers could sell it for more? That sure wouldn't happen if it was controlled like alcohol and cigarettes.
I think dealers would die out. I for one don't want to deal with having to find a dealer and having to worry about their trustworthiness. I'm pretty sure that people would begin buying it from stores, and at the start the dealers would just lose a big load of their buyers, but in the end it would become totally unprofitable.werewolfsfury said:
Of course there'd still be those hardcore people growing their own stuff, but I think in the end, not many people would be bothered to get their stuff from a dealer if they can just get it down at the corner.
I know a whole lot of people that grow/dry their own tobacco and a lot more people who brew their own beer. The government still makes a killing off of those because they tax the sale of the drugs to people who can't (or just won't) go through that arduous process. They also tax the commercial ventures that make and sell the drugs quite a lot, mind you.werewolfsfury said:
Now, production of your own distilled liquor is illegal for a few reasons, but the government still taxes both the making and the selling.
Similarly, the state or federal government could tax the growing, selling, buying, and licensing of cannabis while putting similar restrictions on growing it as they already have on distilling your own moonshine.
Sure, there would still be a lot of "freebooters," but there would still be a bunch of tax revenues.
There is a pot substitute that is legal and not as dangerous. I, myself, do not smoke it, but I know a few people who do. They say it's like a dream while on it.
Weed helps with a lot of things, but people are always going to want to use it for recreational reasons.werewolfsfury said:
No, I don't have any of the problems listed above, but I, like all people, get stressed. And when I get stressed, there are hobbies, and getting high with friends to help reduce stress levels.
That said, there are a many drugs out there which have specific medical purposes, and are otherwise deadly if taken out of moderation. For instance, Adderal or Ritalin. Both drugs are legal to use if you have a prescription, and can cause some pretty nasty things to happen if you take too much, which a lot of kids I used to know did a lot.
I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have someone I know smoking a bowl than poppin' a few Ritalin.
Ramble mode off.
No, actually that's what weed does.Harlief said:
[sub]Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons. These nerves respond by altering their initial behavior. For example, if a nerve is suppose to assist one in retrieving short-term memory, cannabinoids receptors make them do the opposite. [/sub]
People don't smoke it because it makes them stupid, hard as that is to believe. There actually is a high.
Because of corporation... Period, tobacco companies are BIG easily taxable on a large scale, and thus highly proffitable, alcohol has been produced by families and companies in an established sense for as long as history has existed... Marajuana has never had that kind of established backing, therefor it would require expensive and bothersome retooling for regulation of production, quality testing and assurance, and taxation of an industry that doesn't really EXIST as a unified body yet... IF there had been marketing campains and corporate entities behind it before prohibition was enacted, it would have come back with booze... Since it was NEVER a point of proffit for the governmental bodies through regulated taxation before, and that it would cost them money to allow for that, they figure there's no real good reason to allow anyone to make money off of it if they can't so it's illegal... to an extent... where I live possession is fine, unless you have enough to reasonably sell to someone, or are smoking it in a place where someone's gonna get bothered by it... but then again where i live it's also illegal to smoke cigarettes in a wide variety of public places... so that doesn't really bother anyone... also there are ways to get a card that allows you to buy and possess larger quantities of it for your own medical use... you just hafta know the right doctor...Littlee300 said:I wish I remember the name of a show that told the history of marijuana... Anyways, someone made commercials showing that weed made people aggressive. (irony) And test showed that weed kill brain cells because stupid scientist would suffocate primates in the process of the test.
The Virgo said:
Where is your logic coming from? How does it make sense to be able to tax cigarettes but not weed..
