So? There making more money on the subscription fee then what they'd make from having a few people switch from PS3 to X-box due to the lack of membership fees. Its more molla to do it this way.
lol? Take your fanboy trolling elsewhere. The op asked why people pay for a service that is offered free other places, and I answered.RyanKaufman said:You can claim PC is the best which it probably is if done right, but I prefer my 200 dollar game system that is designed for gaming than my 500 dollar PC that if I play too many games on, I need to invest almost another 250+ into.Zaik said:Because people will pay for it.
You can harp on the PSN all you like, but Steam does everything Xbox live does and costs $0/ever.
That used to be covered when you purchased a mp game, companies were expected to keep official MP server s up for the lifespan of the game.Shock and Awe said:Because server upkeep costs money, and more money means better upkeep. We pay so there is more money, therefore better servers.
Thank god your here to tell us all how microsoft runs. Whew, now i won't need to actually know the real answer and I can just parrot little "factiods" that so many other people who have no idea what they're talking about say.Icehearted said:Not all games run on servers (Call of Duty 2, Gears of War 2).Souplex said:Because servers cost money to run.
It's either charge you, or do what Sony does, and charge developers who will then be less likely to support you.
They charge because they can, and people are willing to pay for what should be free. It's the same logic behind Avatar crap; make a paper doll, then create a market for dressing up paper doll with 1-5 dollar accessories and watch the suckers spend cash on something that does nothing.
The big mac comparison is lame (and overused). Apples and oranges. It's more like buying a nice looking suit you can wear around the house, but you have to pay a fee to wear it outside with others. Too many apologists will make excuses for the practice, but ultimately it boils down to the difference between having more sense than money or having more money than sense.
No PC gamer has had to upgrade their PC in 5 years either. And you might as well use the 5 year ago prices on LCD TV's consoles and PCs. Not to mention most console gamers are on their 2nd or 3rd console by now.mb16 said:For all you boasting about the PC, yes steam may do what XBL does for free, but playing on my xbox i dont have to upgrade my software every few years to play the new games at a good level
lets go for the last 6 years from when the xbox came out
Xbox 360- £2040
Console: £200, live for 6years: £240, 40 new* games: £1600
PC (steam)-£1900
Gaming PC: £600, hardware/software updates: £100**, 40 new*** games : £1200
So really there isnt much difference in it, only £140
*new=£40 per game
**just a guess
***new=£30 per game
yes but after 6years my xbox is running fine and my PC is slowly going to the gravePettingZOOPONY said:No PC gamer has had to upgrade their PC in 5 years either. And you might as well use the 5 year ago prices on LCD TV's consoles and PCs. Not to mention most console gamers are on their 2nd or 3rd console by now.mb16 said:For all you boasting about the PC, yes steam may do what XBL does for free, but playing on my xbox i dont have to upgrade my software every few years to play the new games at a good level
lets go for the last 6 years from when the xbox came out
Xbox 360- £2040
Console: £200, live for 6years: £240, 40 new* games: £1600
PC (steam)-£1900
Gaming PC: £600, hardware/software updates: £100**, 40 new*** games : £1200
So really there isnt much difference in it, only £140
*new=£40 per game
**just a guess
***new=£30 per game
Maybe I've missed it because I haven't bought the right games, but besides the DLC, what part of games isn't being included when you buy it? Could I get a specific example of HAVING to own a Live account in order play a game? I've never had that issue and I'm not able to use Live during the summer when I'm not at collegeRamirezDoEverything said:Even while paying for the bells and whistles I STILL HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THE REST OF THE GAME(first strike *cough* *cough*)
Kevon Huggins said:having to pay for something free on other consoles is a waste but xbox live has just too many features from better multiplayer to nice social networking options
Ain't mad atcha. Some of us are cozy with being plundered, some of us are not. It's when people qualify it that I start to raise a stink. If MS had a competitor (no, not PSN, I mean on their own system) offering a similar service for free, how long do you think it'd be before they abandon their subscription model? That's the thing about monopolies.jakefongloo said:Thank god your here to tell us all how microsoft runs. Whew, now i won't need to actually know the real answer and I can just parrot little "factiods" that so many other people who have no idea what they're talking about say.Icehearted said:Not all games run on servers (Call of Duty 2, Gears of War 2).Souplex said:Because servers cost money to run.
It's either charge you, or do what Sony does, and charge developers who will then be less likely to support you.
They charge because they can, and people are willing to pay for what should be free. It's the same logic behind Avatar crap; make a paper doll, then create a market for dressing up paper doll with 1-5 dollar accessories and watch the suckers spend cash on something that does nothing.
The big mac comparison is lame (and overused). Apples and oranges. It's more like buying a nice looking suit you can wear around the house, but you have to pay a fee to wear it outside with others. Too many apologists will make excuses for the practice, but ultimately it boils down to the difference between having more sense than money or having more money than sense.
This goes for anyone who is 100% agreement with the policy as well. Unless you have the top executive in finance of this company sit down and tell me if this is necessary or not, you cannot possibly be as sure as you sound right now. If you are then you are identifiably sheep. You heard something you like and now you think you're and expert in it.
I have absolutly no idea why that pissed me off so much. I must have read something like this 3 times before your post. I apologise that it was you i quoted but i stand by what i said... err, typed.