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Why is PC gaming "dead"?
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I'm quite happy with that. I just bought a new PC that can play any current gen title I've tested on high settings, and since I can't afford to do that every year it's reassuring to know that I'm not likely to have problems running future titles until at least the start of the next console generation, which I'm guessing will be when games take their next leap in system requirements.Dansrage said:
PC gaming has not died, but it has become more of a niche gaming devise. This is do to the fact that most games can be easily tampered with, and accounts for most games can be hacked. (I've lost my WOW account to hackers, making the game not worth returning to when I got a new computer.) so most big games tend to be for the counsels, which are easier to control, and hackers are more contained.
So when PC games come out, they are eather to big to effectively do much to it, to small for hackers to care, or closed off so nobody cares what you do with it. But many games for the PC can easily end up on a counsel, making the PC more of a starting point for small time games.
So when PC games come out, they are eather to big to effectively do much to it, to small for hackers to care, or closed off so nobody cares what you do with it. But many games for the PC can easily end up on a counsel, making the PC more of a starting point for small time games.
Let's get one thing straight:
Id Software started out by making a clone of Mario for the PC. Yes, Mario. (IIRC it was "Dangerous Dave in Copyright infringement" or something or another.) After Nintendo proved disinterested in the port, Id Software went on to create Commander Keen. The rest, and the start of the space marine/ww II tropes in first person shooters, is history.
That story should show two things:
PC Gaming has and will continue to play second fiddle to consoles, and PC Gaming will always be where true innovation happens.
Id Software started out by making a clone of Mario for the PC. Yes, Mario. (IIRC it was "Dangerous Dave in Copyright infringement" or something or another.) After Nintendo proved disinterested in the port, Id Software went on to create Commander Keen. The rest, and the start of the space marine/ww II tropes in first person shooters, is history.
That story should show two things:
PC Gaming has and will continue to play second fiddle to consoles, and PC Gaming will always be where true innovation happens.
personally, I think its fine. If it could ever be called "dead" it would be because the best gaming PCs are exspencive and consoles are more easily accessible. I'm not a PC gamer myself so this is a rough guess
I don't think it's dead in the slightest, just that console gaming is growing exponentially over the years. The big issue with PC gaming is that no one had a good enough computer to play great games, which is where consoles stepped in. They provided a cheaper and more focused alternative for those that weren't computer savvy.
I see it only getting better, as computers become faster and cheaper and games become more optimized for the platform. The internet finally becoming the norm in the world is causing more and more people to get computers.
Lets admit that gaming, computers, and tech in general has gotten better and better VERY fast. As the older generation gets replaced by the newer generation, I see every household owning a computer.
Of course my generation is being quickly replaced by the social media and "flash" games generation... I'm stuck in the middle of two very different types of people, I imagine I'll be pretty awkward in my later years
I see it only getting better, as computers become faster and cheaper and games become more optimized for the platform. The internet finally becoming the norm in the world is causing more and more people to get computers.
Lets admit that gaming, computers, and tech in general has gotten better and better VERY fast. As the older generation gets replaced by the newer generation, I see every household owning a computer.
Of course my generation is being quickly replaced by the social media and "flash" games generation... I'm stuck in the middle of two very different types of people, I imagine I'll be pretty awkward in my later years
PC gaming? Watch it increase massively in 2013, when consoles go all motion controls.
(Hell, I'd argue the expansion has begun with the digital distribution revolution. The PC has thousands of indies, the vast majority of which will never see a console release).
(Hell, I'd argue the expansion has begun with the digital distribution revolution. The PC has thousands of indies, the vast majority of which will never see a console release).
I guess that this must be a cyclical thing because I remember when the pc gaming was supposed to be dying back in 1997 because the average pc game couldn't compete with the power of the playstation in terms of graphics, music, and ease of use.
But also, I remember when World of Warcraft was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin of the console game because console did not have enough memory, ram, or connectivity to the Internet to compete with it.
I have read articles from the early 90s claiming that PC games in general were going by the wayside because windows 95 was coming out.
Then Duke Nukem supposedly killed the FPS genre. Now, it is Halo doing the same thing.
The point is that, I would not listen to experts in this because they are always wrong.
But also, I remember when World of Warcraft was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin of the console game because console did not have enough memory, ram, or connectivity to the Internet to compete with it.
I have read articles from the early 90s claiming that PC games in general were going by the wayside because windows 95 was coming out.
Then Duke Nukem supposedly killed the FPS genre. Now, it is Halo doing the same thing.
The point is that, I would not listen to experts in this because they are always wrong.
but troubleshooting is the fun partAce of Spades said:
(sorry, im one of those people that regularly opens up my computer, takes it apart, and puts it back together, even if it is acting fine, seriously, im about ready to start building a new computer so i have something to do cuz i have upgraded my current one to near perfection, that, and i need a server)
Pc gaming is dead...
In other headlines
Sony says PS3 a victory, Xbox 360 a failure.
Microsoft says Xbox 360 a victory, PS3 a failure.
Nintendo claims console victory, claims all others failures.
See the trend?
But in this case
Upset console player not able to get good enough computer to play games declares pc gaming dead.
PC gamer unable to afford consoles declare console gaming dead.
And so on.
In other headlines
Sony says PS3 a victory, Xbox 360 a failure.
Microsoft says Xbox 360 a victory, PS3 a failure.
Nintendo claims console victory, claims all others failures.
See the trend?
But in this case
Upset console player not able to get good enough computer to play games declares pc gaming dead.
PC gamer unable to afford consoles declare console gaming dead.
And so on.
It's ofc not dead, they just started making dumb down console like games.
They focus on developing games for consoles because then they can sell it to the parents of kiddies. And kids enjoy pretty much any game with no advanced gameplay plot or skill.
Pc gamers require to have a deep and difficult gameplay usually, but no company bothers to make something that intricate, Stalker, Starcraft 2 being the only decent one for a while. It's more pc multiplayer games having success now. Dota like games (wc3,Hon,LoL) CS, CSS, Starcraft 1,2. WoW etc.
Pc will always be the only real RTS and MMO platform and the medium with the next gen grafics pushing consoles to keep up.
Also any console game is always designed on a pc's so the whole notion is just kicking itself in the rear. Because to make a console game you will require a Pc, thus really making it a pc game made to fit into a little box, Made to play on a weirdly shaped plastic board with colour'd buttons for simplicity.
What i would say its dying for is it's simplification of gameplay to a console portable level. (I can only press 5 button Hurr DuRR)
pc sales
The Sims (16 million shipped)[154]
The Sims 2 (13 million)[155]
World of Warcraft (12 million subscribers)[157]
StarCraft (11 million)[160]
Xbox 360
Halo 3 (8 million copies)[24]
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (7.481 million approximately; 6.471 million in US,[25][26][27][28] 87,374 in Japan,[29][verification needed] at least 1 million in UK)[30]
Gears of War (5 million,[31] may include PC version)
Gears of War 2 (5 million)[32]
There thread done, cookie plz.
They focus on developing games for consoles because then they can sell it to the parents of kiddies. And kids enjoy pretty much any game with no advanced gameplay plot or skill.
Pc gamers require to have a deep and difficult gameplay usually, but no company bothers to make something that intricate, Stalker, Starcraft 2 being the only decent one for a while. It's more pc multiplayer games having success now. Dota like games (wc3,Hon,LoL) CS, CSS, Starcraft 1,2. WoW etc.
Pc will always be the only real RTS and MMO platform and the medium with the next gen grafics pushing consoles to keep up.
Also any console game is always designed on a pc's so the whole notion is just kicking itself in the rear. Because to make a console game you will require a Pc, thus really making it a pc game made to fit into a little box, Made to play on a weirdly shaped plastic board with colour'd buttons for simplicity.
What i would say its dying for is it's simplification of gameplay to a console portable level. (I can only press 5 button Hurr DuRR)
pc sales
The Sims (16 million shipped)[154]
The Sims 2 (13 million)[155]
World of Warcraft (12 million subscribers)[157]
StarCraft (11 million)[160]
Xbox 360
Halo 3 (8 million copies)[24]
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (7.481 million approximately; 6.471 million in US,[25][26][27][28] 87,374 in Japan,[29][verification needed] at least 1 million in UK)[30]
Gears of War (5 million,[31] may include PC version)
Gears of War 2 (5 million)[32]
There thread done, cookie plz.
I defy you to find an example. No one would truly say that consoles are dead right now.Carlston said:
Also, what PC gamer wouldn't be able to afford a console? Price point is the main problem with entering PC gaming!
I am really surprised that nobody has mentioned the fact that PC gaming is the best way to go if you like to customize your games with mods. Even games like CoD BO have custom maps and custom servers running to help you play the way you want to. Games like Elder Scrolls and Fallout are allowing players to customize there games in ways most have never thought of. With each new iteration of PC gaming it begins to become more and more customizable.
Not sure what example you want. If you didn't notice, one who doesn't have the other just claims they other wasn't all that great. Companies do it, players do it, NES vs Sega Master system all over again. "I don't have a NES so NES is stupid they have just a plumber mentality."lacktheknack said:
So it is more a fanboy rant than taking a side. Which I didn't...so bout that example?