Why is sex and gaming so far apart?

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DigitalSushi

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
"Why are sex and gaming so far apart?" Probably because you're unable to create a grammatically correct sentence.
because the interwebs is the interwebs, it has people of all different backgrounds trying to speak one of two common internet languages, Portugese and English.

If you are neither your gonna have difficulties.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Spirultima said:
we lived in a place were death could strike at any moment, you would want to get laid for various reasons.
I think you mean that you would want that. Some of us don't have those urges, or have mastered them. I'd be more concerned with fucking up anyone who threatened me and securing a place to sleep.
No joke! Well said Max.
If I'm in a place where 'death could strike at any moment', then survival is my priority, not having sex. That's retarded. Who cares about sex when you're fighting for your life? The OP has got to be young, because I can't imagine anyone but a prepubescent virgin even suggesting such a ridiculous idea.
 

Spirultima

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Jarrid said:
Spirultima said:
I was thinking while playing Fallout 3 the other day, in real human terms the urge to have sex is massively strong, but now or days its much more repressed, but imagine we took all the safety from our life's, we lived in a place were death could strike at any moment, you would want to get laid for various reasons.

I'm using Fallout 3 as a example here, your in a post-apocalyptic world, base human instincts come to force, you would shag a hell load, like shooting a female raider's gun and leg, killing her comrades, shagging her then kill her, it would be human to do such things.

So why is this bad? i would like to roleplay as a real human being that includes all forms of choice, whether or not to be evil or good, murder or not, sex or not, gay or straight or even to have a profession.

Its hard to describe without sounding like a pervert, but i think i got my point across.

Hmm... The example you described evokes imagery in mind of the rape scene from Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior), which is interesting, because the entire Fallout series is heavily influenced by that movie. The proble I see is that what you propose is incredibly "evil," you argue that it is 'human' to be driven toward sex, especially in a dire situation, such as the post apocalyptic wastelands of Fallout. But you seem to miss the point that violently forcing sex upon someone is the type of act that a lawless, immoral person would commit.
The Raiders represent this type of inhuman character, whereas many of the NPCs you meet are not in a base, animalistic frame of mind. Society has fallen, but they aren't trying to kill each other, they're trying to rebuild society; building cities, living and trading together.
I'll grant you that rape would add some degree of reality to the game, but it is the sort of thing I would expect the lawless, barbaric Raiders to be doing. I would not expect the hero of the Capital Wasteland to force himself on an injured woman... well, not unless he/she was a particularly evil SOB.

For the last time, im saying in a sense of a madman, you're in a wasteland, no laws, no safe haven for miles, murder is everywhere, no where to run from danger, it "COULD" drive you mad, and i was getting into the mind set of a evil, insane person, and raiders are everywhere, etc. understand what i mean now?
 

fenixrising

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sex in real life is fun
sex in a game is sad
killing in real life is sick
killing in a game is fun

things that are fun in real life, doesn't mean it translates well to a game, and vise versa
 

spyrewolf

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GTA ...this is ok but rape in games is a no no, just like killing children in games, abhorrent crimes should not be depicted in any means.
 

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jeretik said:
Spirultima said:
I was thinking while playing Fallout 3 the other day, in real human terms the urge to have sex is massively strong, but now or days its much more repressed, but imagine we took all the safety from our life's, we lived in a place were death could strike at any moment, you would want to get laid for various reasons.

I'm using Fallout 3 as a example here, your in a post-apocalyptic world, base human instincts come to force, you would shag a hell load, like shooting a female raider's gun and leg, killing her comrades, shagging her then kill her, it would be human to do such things.

So why is this bad? i would like to roleplay as a real human being that includes all forms of choice, whether or not to be evil or good, murder or not, sex or not, gay or straight or even to have a profession.

Its hard to describe without sounding like a pervert, but i think i got my point across.
You should start making your own games, so you'll see how all those things are eeeasy to make.

Leave the games alone people, jerk off on midget porn, and THAN play games

I do try and make my own, but i might as well rub salt into my eyes, it more fun then playing it. But difference is, im not payed to make them, and i don't get paid by people to play it either.

AND WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!? i bring up a valid point and suddenly IM the horney bugger? I knew the subject was taboo, but jesus christ, people use logic, don't think about yourself playing the game, put yourself in the mindset, its how you can figure people out, think like they do.
 

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I remember the girl who assists you on the Stealing Independance mission saying afterwards when talking to her at the bar in Underworld how the first thing she did after getting paid was getting laid.
Main reason games do not focus on actual sex so much is that they are not trying to be porn. Mass Effect's sex scene is minimal as it is for story/RP, not for sexual pleasure of the player. They do have sex games out there though, and actually there are tons of japanese games all about sex, though I do not know how they play.

Sex in games really should just be for the sake of story/plot/Roleplay. Fable does it fine, and really does not need to get more advanced than that and that is more fitting for free roaming RPGs.
 

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spyrewolf said:
GTA ...this is ok but rape in games is a no no, just like killing children in games, abhorrent crimes should not be depicted in any means.
I have played 2 games where you could kill children. Arx Fatalis has one little girl you can kill, but she is for a quest to save her from cultists who if you fail, kill her. I forget the other. These thngs ARE present in games, just not so focused on, and often not shown. TES games have tons of rather disturbing things if you look, in Oblivion there are more than a few child skeletons, even a baby corpse in a little box on a necromancer's desk. As for Rape, DnD, Half-Orcs. Enough said.
 

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Just because we have advanced graphics doesn't mean we need to see advanced liasions with woman in games. We get the plot point in a game or film when characters go into a room together. You dont need a fifteen minite fuck fest for it to be 'spelled out' do you, really?

The GTA prostitute thing works fine, why make it any more graphic? Geez if there isn't enough free porn only in HD on the Net already, in all its glorius and grotesque forms. Do we really need to put the spurs to Lara Croft that much? never mind raping her. Why would programmers wanna code crap like that anyway, much less a publisher release it.

As gamers should we be more intrested in better storyline, puzzles and gameplay than FPS and boning sims. My advise is get a real woman fella, or purchase Leisure Suit Larry as previously mentioned!

EDIT: Inregards to the thread in the first place...WTF
 

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Because parents buy their 8-year old son a 18+ game and then freak out when it contains nudity. IT IS RATED MATURE FOR A REASON GOD DAMMIT!
 

goater24

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You know you'll get the sex scenes then people will complain about male erections within them. Obviously this will lead to a demand lesbians and eventually more female lead characters in games.

EDIT: Its funny because its true!
 

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O277 said:
Rape wouldn't work because who is sick enough to want to rape something? It's very very very wrong.
Morals are irrelevant when talking about wants.
Calax said:
Spirultima said:
I see your point of view, but obviously i worded what i was saying badly, and hentai games that i hear about is just sex, so it doesn't really class in the category I'm on about.

I don't mean large, indepth, graphic detailing (mini games either) on the sex scenes, im just on about the choice, like, say i went out tomorrow, went to a bar, and picked up a girl/guy who was asking for it(the story is so far from what would happen, its becoming a fairy tale) i would have the choice to, or not to (in reality i would just come home and play on Endwars or something) and games talk about being "free choice" so why not add such things?

And England are no better, i just want a game where you really can do something YOU want and such.
You're problem is that you're hamstrung by the fact that while there are choices you can make, it's impossible to have EVERYTHING be available without having the game be stupidly large, and even then the players would NEVER find everything. The more choice you have the larger the game has to be by geometic scaling.

The devs cut out sex from the sandboxes because A) it's a hot topic that might get them in such hot water that they couldn't recover as a company from the legal fallout B)because they might catch the dreaded AO rating which would kill the game faster than if you'd said it contains 3 types of smallpox C) it's REALLY hard to have sex in a game that's not incredibly shallow.
Wouldn't an extremely large game for an RPG be a good thing? I thought the bigger those games got the better. Also, while that is impossible we should try to anyway so we get as much as we could.
A:That's not why the OPs idea is bad, that's why it wont work at them oment
B: same as A
C:true.
spyrewolf said:
GTA ...this is ok but rape in games is a no no, just like killing children in games, abhorrent crimes should not be depicted in any means.
Why the fuck not?