Why is sex and gaming so far apart?

[MiracleOfSound]

Really though... who wants to fuck a polygon

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Really though... who wants to fuck a polygon

Another polygon?

Ouch... spikey

 

[bouncymike999]

Because Jack Thompson will have a huge fit over it and i think it would increase realism and i would play games with that in it as long as the sex weren't a selling point, just a part of the freedom. Unlike Fable 2

jack thompson got dissbarred i dont thik i spelt that right

 

[HazukiHawkins]

I remember the girl who assists you on the Stealing Independance mission saying afterwards when talking to her at the bar in Underworld how the first thing she did after getting paid was getting laid.
Main reason games do not focus on actual sex so much is that they are not trying to be porn. Mass Effect's sex scene is minimal as it is for story/RP, not for sexual pleasure of the player. They do have sex games out there though, and actually there are tons of japanese games all about sex, though I do not know how they play.

Sex in games really should just be for the sake of story/plot/Roleplay. Fable does it fine, and really does not need to get more advanced than that and that is more fitting for free roaming RPGs.

To your point, a counter-point: Are the games of today not, in fact, avoiding the field of pornography so much that they omit details of characters' needs, relationships and sexual orientations that are necessary to establish said characters as real and genuine, and to help us relate to them?

This attitude is further accented by a disgustingly shallow grasp of romance and love as related to sex, in games. Any character who even mentions it tends to use terms like "get laid" or "find me a hooker", and generally be the kind of shallow macho jerk one wouldn't spend two minutes with after work hours ended.

Such tripe does NOT constitute a boon to role play, plot or story. It is merely a crude scribble where one would normally expect to see an exquisite work of art or vista of natural beauty. There is no reason why games cannot do what novels, plays and movies have already accomplished: portray sex as a natural and beautiful expression of love and affection.

Well considering DOA is around, not ALL games are avoiding being pornograhpic, and some games sexual interest seems rather out of place. And I mean, are you saying you want Link to make passionate love to Zelda after saving her, or what? It seems things have been decently fine in this, and focusing too much on sexual relations to the really physical part seems like it would be getting off-topic. Now if you want maybe as you mentioned orientation to see perhaps the hero and his male lover to passionatly express their love for eachother be in gaming, then that is something more on the topic of homosexuality in games as opposed to sexuality in general.

Well, at least DOA is fairly honest about it, especially the volleyball series. The fact that their designer is a total donkey is another can of worms entirely... I agree completely that sex interests are not always warranted; Link for instance generally seems to be portrayed as a rather boyish character and as such may not be old enough for sex to be a significant influence to his life and personality. Also, that series has always been kind of child-friendly, which is fine by me; I'm not saying all games need to have sex in them, I'm just saying they should decide whether to exclude it from the theme and setting, or implement it properly and believably.

I mentioned orientation because in real life, everyone is not straight, whatever you or others think of that fact. It may be convenient to just make characters straight because that's what most people are, but for the game world to be believable, and for us to be able to associate with its inhabitants, there would have to be people of different sexualities. Nevermind sex scenes... how often have you even seen two guys or two girls holding hands in a romantic way, in a game? Or looking at each other suggestively? I don't think I ever have, and I've played a fair number of games over the years.

Sex is a part of adult love and to refrain from showing it in games that deal with romantic relationships and target adult audiences, is to present an incomplete image of something whose shape is widely known. If it wasn't so commonplace, it might be considered innovative, but as the norm, it's just ridiculous. To display romantic sex in a mature and plausible fashion is a great challenge, but if designers really want to claim they make games for adults while keeping a straight face, it's a challenge they will have to meet. I've personally had enough of games that seem to be made for horny teenage boys with attention spans too short to notice how bad the actual "sexy" stuff is...

 

[Kunzer]

I might be in a minority here, but considering that I am in a serious relationship that is most sexual in nature, I *really* enjoy not having to think about sex when I play games.

I sometimes just want to take a breather from the constant stream of sassy, flirtatious female game characters, over-inflated and/or fake breasts, applebottom butts stuffed into tight jeans, big red lips cooing sweet nothings into my ear... blah blah ad nauseam...

Anyway, sometimes in life, you just want a shotgun and a bunch of zombies for some good, wholesome fun. (Read: Resident Evil FTW)

I was especially thrilled when there was absolutely no romantic connection between Sheva Alomar and Chris Redfield. Finally, two people of the opposite sex in a video game who can put their B.S. aside for a few hours and just shoot things in the face.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

If you want complete freedom, you're gonna have to combine FPS with The Sims. But when you get freedom, the game developers will make it a must to use them, like in the
Sims, where every second you need to fulfill your characters stupid needs, so if you want to rape someone, the game will punish you by making you take a piss every 15 minutes, which is extremely thick and boring. And games aim to be immersive, so if it is, it will make you feel sorry, which breaks apart everything.

 

[pink.spartan]

rofl. *obviously* this guy has chicks lined up at his front door. /endsarcasm.

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you know, for when he stops playing video games. xD

 

[oktalist]

When I read the title I thought "dumbass, sex is all over games, Tomb Raider etc etc etc." Then I read the OP. Oh boy.

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shagging her then kill her, it would be human to do such things.

Its hard to describe without sounding like a pervert.

It sure is.

Seriously, you think that's how most men would behave in a lawless, post-apocalyptic world?

 

[pink.spartan]

I mentioned orientation because in real life, everyone is not straight, whatever you or others think of that fact. It may be convenient to just make characters straight because that's what most people are, but for the game world to be believable, and for us to be able to associate with its inhabitants, there would have to be people of different sexualities. Nevermind sex scenes... how often have you even seen two guys or two girls holding hands in a romantic way, in a game? Or looking at each other suggestively? I don't think I ever have, and I've played a fair number of games over the years.

Try playing Mass Effect as a girl.

.. duh.

The alien consort hooks up with you. Ashley has some weird lesbian love-thing going on (i killed her off so i'm not really sure what would've happened with her). You're given the option to "charm" :cough: information out of people.

I'm sure there are other gay/lesbian scenes in games, but that's the first one that ever punched me in the face like that.

 

[Kiutu]

Sex is a part of adult love and to refrain from showing it in games that deal with romantic relationships and target adult audiences, is to present an incomplete image of something whose shape is widely known. If it wasn't so commonplace, it might be considered innovative, but as the norm, it's just ridiculous. To display romantic sex in a mature and plausible fashion is a great challenge, but if designers really want to claim they make games for adults while keeping a straight face, it's a challenge they will have to meet. I've personally had enough of games that seem to be made for horny teenage boys with attention spans too short to notice how bad the actual "sexy" stuff is...

Had you said it more like this in the start, I would have understood you better. Physically depicting sex seems like it rarely would benefit the game really, but this stuff I can understand and appreciate as adding depth to the game, and I would not mind. If me and my boyfriend were two heros on some adventure, we'd still be doing all the things we like to do.

 

[HazukiHawkins]

I mentioned orientation because in real life, everyone is not straight, whatever you or others think of that fact. It may be convenient to just make characters straight because that's what most people are, but for the game world to be believable, and for us to be able to associate with its inhabitants, there would have to be people of different sexualities. Nevermind sex scenes... how often have you even seen two guys or two girls holding hands in a romantic way, in a game? Or looking at each other suggestively? I don't think I ever have, and I've played a fair number of games over the years.

Try playing Mass Effect as a girl.

.. duh.

The alien consort hooks up with you. Ashley has some weird lesbian love-thing going on (i killed her off so i'm not really sure what would've happened with her). You're given the option to "charm" :cough: information out of people.

I'm sure there are other gay/lesbian scenes in games, but that's the first one that ever punched me in the face like that.

As I said, I could count the number I've even heard of on the fingers of one hand, and that's counting this one.

While I haven't played Mass Effect yet, it sounds to me as though you're complaining about things nobody was forcing you to do. Besides, you were obviously free to kill the character whose sexuality had the nerve to "punch you in the face" as you say, so what's your beef?

It's funny how most people's idea of future society and values looks exactly like the ones we're living with. As I understand it, homosexuality was some sort of crime less than a century ago, so isn't it reasonable to expect further developments in tolerance somewhere between now and the day that humanity inexplicably develops into some glorious space-faring civilization?

 

[HazukiHawkins]

When I read the title I thought "dumbass, sex is all over games, Tomb Raider etc etc etc." Then I read the OP. Oh boy.

[snip snip snip]

shagging her then kill her, it would be human to do such things.

Its hard to describe without sounding like a pervert.

It sure is.

Seriously, you think that's how most men would behave in a lawless, post-apocalyptic world?

I've got to say, I think a lot of men would. That said, however, some men most definitely would not... and it's usually guys from the latter category that get cast as heroes in that type of setting, since they have the moral high ground due to the fact that they still care about other people and their rights, even when the law no longer has the power to stop people from doing as they please.

When you consider the effects of games on the people who play them, this is actually a pretty logical approach; a lot of folks would be instantly alienated by a rapist protagonist, while others would like the game solely for that element and take it to the utmost extent possible... probably while the concerned parents' and witchburning reporters' associations were peeking through the window, readying their battering rams for yet another senseless attack on a number of game companies of variable degrees of guilt.

 

[kidragakash]

Why is grammar and interwebs so far apart?

... because people can't grasp that the web is the web, and the internet is the internet, and feel the need to amalgamate them into a monstrosity of a word, a word that belongs to the Lolcat vocabulary, and three-year-olds, hoping appear cool and start a new buzzword...

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Yeah...NO. There's a Thick line between Gaming and Porn, and that suggestion just erases that line and makes a circle out of the two. You want sex? Download a Porno or go have sex in life, Im sure both of those options are more satisfying then trying to pixel-rape someone.