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Jaime_Wolf

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While the majority of posts here tend to be entertaining and/or interesting and/or informative, this thing where people just go into random threads to complain about recent games they didn't like is starting to get old. It's frustrating when a big game comes out and a quarter of the posts are inevitably complaining about why someone didn't like the game with virtually no effort to make the post relevant.

When you complain that a game/sequel/series is the worst game/sequel/series you've ever played/seen/experienced/heard of, you're implicitly admitting that you have bad judgment/extremely limited experience/an inability to understand the topic of a thread.

In the last few weeks alone, I've seen a number of threads about "worst games", "worst gameplay", and "worst sequels". In each of them, a sizable minority, sometimes even a majority, of the posts are about recent games that people simply didn't like.

When you claim that Modern Warfare is the worst series ever created, you sound like a like you discovered video games last week. There are a lot of worse game series, so either you're passing judgment despite your hopeless inexperience, or you're completely ignoring the topic and using the thread as a soapbox to complain about things you don't like. Compare Modern Warfare to, for instance, the Big Mutha Truckers series.

When you claim that Dragon Age 2 is the worst sequel you've ever seen, you are either lying or you haven't gotten enough experience with games to see one of the truly, infamously terrible sequels in gaming history. Either way: awkward.

When you claim that Mass Effect 2 is the worst game you've ever experienced, you're either being an ass, or you've never been in a store long enough to see one of the dozens of "The Movie: The Game" games sitting on the shelf. It is exceedingly rare that any AAA title will ever even begin to approach the badness of something like E.T..

In every case, your attempt to shoehorn your complaints about a recent game are not just obnoxiously off-topic, they're also making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about in general.

To pretend like this isn't just soapboxing and is actually intended to be a discussion: Does this bother you too? (obligatory vaguely self-righteous question inviting people to start an argument:) Am I somehow mistaken? Do you guys honestly not realize that you sound like this?
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Don't forget the people who hate just to be on the bandwagon. Or those who have never played a game/series and base they're opinions solely on what other are saying about it.
 

BENZOOKA

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You're right on the money here. I completely agree. And as a cherry on the top, this is a good, thought proper rant, instead of the threads just messing around with something general and irrelevant in a game/topic that doesn't even make any sense, just making a "rant" that's supposed to make a difference, when they're clearly neither.

SnootyEnglishman also had a good point to add there.

I'd get more into this, but it's over 4AM already. Anywho, I'm glad to see other people bothered about the same things as well.
 

HapexIndustries

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Absolutely this bothers me. When people talk about the "worst games ever" and list Halo 2 or something it shows a total misunderstanding of what "worst" really means. Terrible games come out all the time, and have been coming out since the very beginning of video games. I've played things that were so bad uninstalling them could have corrupted my hard drive (I'm looking at you Pools of Radiance: Assault on Myth Drannor).

I understand people wanting to vent about stuff they don't like, or stuff that pissed them off, but that's not what "worst" or "terrible" mean. I hated Dragon Age but it's not the worst game I ever played... I think that would be Team 47 Go-Man. Or Myst :D

That's a joke. See, I HATE Myst, but I know lots of people like it. I also accept that, for what it is, it is fully functional and delivers an experience that some may enjoy, though I do not. I can not say Myst is a terrible game, only that I hate (HATE) it.

Team 47 Go-Man is utter trash and unbelievably bad. There is only one review I found for it and it reads like a Holocaust apologist.

There are plenty of genuinely terrible games, and plenty of them from the current generation (Infinite Undiscovery, ahem, the release version of Lair, Legendary, plenty others) and plenty PLENTY of games that just suck (way too many to bother giving examples), but saying that Call of Duty is "the wrost seeries of all tiime" is stupid and pointless.
 

Neverhoodian

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I think it's a combination of wanting to be a "hipster" while desperately seeking attention. People want to feel unique, so they decide to hate everything that's popular, regardless of how good or bad it actually is. Simply disliking it isn't enough though, oh no. They have to broadcast their self-professed hatred to the world so they feel vindicated with their decision.

I wish people like this would just be comfortable with who they are in life and realize that just because something's popular doesn't necessarily mean it's bad or that the fans are a bunch of sheep.
 

Phlakes

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Exactly. And, I'd like to point something out. Isn't it a little funny that after MW2 came out everyone was like "ZOMG TEH BEST GAEM EVAR", but then, after a few people started criticizing it, almost everyone instantly said "ZOMG TEH WORST GAEM EVAR COD SUKS BALLS"?

Plus, look at this. [http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2] Biggest bandwagon ever.

And then look at the critic reviews for the 360 version. [http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2]

Doesn't look like the worst game ever to me.
 

razelas

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I sympathize with you, but you do realize the futility of trying to argue logic with irrational people?
 

Vern5

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But... isn't this thread a rant about rants? Where does that place the OP?
 

Phantomess

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I don't necessarily think it's right or wrong to think a game is the 'worst ever' game. It all comes down to personal opinion, which is what most of these threads seems to say. "What do YOU think is the worst [insert release/genre here]?"

An example of this is the fact that my favourite game is Kingdom Hearts II. I love the narrative and the game mechanics it employs, but I also know that it didn't appeal to many people. On the other hand, I'm not too fond of FPS games as a whole, as I'm personally not a huge fan of the game mechanics they employ. But that's just my personal opinion and I realise that there are a great many people for whom the whole genre is of a high entertainment value.

I can understand, however, that people who consistently get on their soapbox to defend their favourite game and do not recognise the short-comings of it need a quickly issued reality check. No game is perfect. There are some that come close to it for many people, but there will always be games that don't appeal to everyone. So many times the idea of the 'universal game' has been brought up and I think we can all agree that it is highly unlikely that it will ever be made.

In regards to games made from movies, I think it has been proven in the past that not all of them suck. Goldeneye 64 is a prime example. More recently (and I say that with infinite jest and a very loose definition of 'recently'), I must say that while I thought 'The Legend of Jack Sparrow' was an awful excuse of a game, the PS2 version of the third film was quite enjoyable. By no means was it particularly ground-breaking or innovative, but it wasn't a game that I would simply dismiss on the grounds of it being a game based on a movie. I have also read vague praise for the Tron: Legacy game.

I do, however, agree that OT posts that rant and rave against certain games are completely misplaced. Surely that kind of idiocy is best reserved for the psychiatrist's office?
 

Elamdri

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Jaime_Wolf said:
While the majority of posts here tend to be entertaining and/or interesting and/or informative, this thing where people just go into random threads to complain about recent games they didn't like is starting to get old. It's frustrating when a big game comes out and a quarter of the posts are inevitably complaining about why someone didn't like the game with virtually no effort to make the post relevant.

When you complain that a game/sequel/series is the worst game/sequel/series you've ever played/seen/experienced/heard of, you're implicitly admitting that you have bad judgment/extremely limited experience/an inability to understand the topic of a thread.

In the last few weeks alone, I've seen a number of threads about "worst games", "worst gameplay", and "worst sequels". In each of them, a sizable minority, sometimes even a majority, of the posts are about recent games that people simply didn't like.

When you claim that Modern Warfare is the worst series ever created, you sound like a like you discovered video games last week. There are a lot of worse game series, so either you're passing judgment despite your hopeless inexperience, or you're completely ignoring the topic and using the thread as a soapbox to complain about things you don't like. Compare Modern Warfare to, for instance, the Big Mutha Truckers series.

When you claim that Dragon Age 2 is the worst sequel you've ever seen, you are either lying or you haven't gotten enough experience with games to see one of the truly, infamously terrible sequels in gaming history. Either way: awkward.

When you claim that Mass Effect 2 is the worst game you've ever experienced, you're either being an ass, or you've never been in a store long enough to see one of the dozens of "The Movie: The Game" games sitting on the shelf. It is exceedingly rare that any AAA title will ever even begin to approach the badness of something like E.T..

In every case, your attempt to shoehorn your complaints about a recent game are not just obnoxiously off-topic, they're also making you look like you have no idea what you're talking about in general.

To pretend like this isn't just soapboxing and is actually intended to be a discussion: Does this bother you too? (obligatory vaguely self-righteous question inviting people to start an argument:) Am I somehow mistaken? Do you guys honestly not realize that you sound like this?
I award you 100 internets sir.
 

DeadlyYellow

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It's an internet forum. If it bothers/annoys you then you are clearly thinking/caring about it too much. I suggest a few hours/days/weeks away from the computer/smart phone to straighten yourself out and get worry/fuss over things that matter/are important.
 

thedeathscythe

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I think it's mostly hyperbole. People talk and then one friend says "I played the new Call of Duty, it sucks" and then the other says "yeah, it's pretty much the worst shooter I've played." Really? I'm pretty sure if you thought harder you could think of one, but everyone (ironic hyperbole here) uses hyperbole like that, you've done it before if you can't remember, I assure you that.
 

Anarchemitis

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SnootyEnglishman said:
Don't forget the people who hate just to be on the bandwagon. Or those who have never played a game/series and base they're opinions solely on what other are saying about it.
Don't forget about people who complain about people and people who have either the recognition or superiority complexes who notice them or the metalogical considerations of people who worry about such people who complain about people who complain about people.

Such as you.
 

scw55

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I dislike one-sided opinnions of games. Yes, everyone can be biased, but does it hurt to add up the good and bad points of a game? Critising the game you play fairly helps you enjoy games better. You pick up on possitive things in games more easily and appreciate them more.
Dragon Age 2 for example. So many comments were ZOMG IT'S AWFUL BIOWARE SOLD OUT or I THOUGHT IT WAS AWSUM and nothing more.

I wish people would sit on the fence more when it comes for video games, people seem to sit on the fence well for everything else.

I just feel sad for the person who feels the need to share their opinnion on a video game to only people just ignore it because it's a 2 dimentional comment.

(I don't expect a critical review when someone gives their opinnion on a game, I just wish people would aknowledge atleast 1 good thing and 1 bad thing).
 

FalloutJack

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Jaime_Wolf said:
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Well, the people you are referring to are not me, since mostly when I say a bad game (and it's usually the same one with proof supplied on demand)...nobody has disagreed. Not even to try trolling me, even. If most of the Escapist - or at least the part that's actually viewed the topic - isn't in contention with my actual picks of past games I found lacking, I take that as a sign that I'm on the right track.

Good thing you clarified on the types of people you meant, though, 'cause I was about to be a little sore there.
 

mjc0961

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None of the people who you're whining about in this thread are as bad as people who have such huge problems with other people's opinions because they disagree. Who exactly are you to say that Modern Warfare cannot be the worst series someone ever played unless they just started playing video games? Who are you to say that every AAA title will be better than every movie based game and anyone who disagrees is just being an ass?

HapexIndustries said:
That's a joke. See, I HATE Myst, but I know lots of people like it. I also accept that, for what it is, it is fully functional and delivers an experience that some may enjoy, though I do not. I can not say Myst is a terrible game, only that I hate (HATE) it.
Yes, you can say that Myst is a terrible game. If you played it and thought it was terrible, you are entitled to say that it's terrible. You do know that saying a game is terrible is just an opinion, and not fact, right? If you try to PROVE that it's a terrible game to other people, then you're failing. You will never succeed because you can't prove opinions and make people who liked the game agree with you that it was terrible. But if you just want to say "Yeah, I played Myst, and it was terrible." then that's fine.

The main problem with you, the TC, and everyone else who agrees with him seems to be that you don't realize the difference between fact and opinion. Yes, people can say that Modern Warfare is the worst game series they've ever played. Yes, people can say that Halo 2 was awful. If they did play and that's what they thought, then it's fine. Unless they are actively trying to sit there and say "This game is the worst and here is why and if you think otherwise you are wrong." then you just need to deal with it, because everyone has the right to their opinion.

Maybe instead of climbing up on these soapboxes and ignoring the difference between fact and opinion when you see these posts, maybe you could get into a conversation with the other person and see if they'll share more details about why they don't like those games and what other games they have played? You all might learn something instead of sounding so awkward when you start ranting about other people's opinions.
 

thecoreyhlltt

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wow, if you're going to get sick of people shitting on games (on a gaming site no less!), then just don't read those threads. personally, i'm getting sick of people saying their sick of those kind of posts. i believe wholeheartedly that everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether or not that person likes modern warfare or call of duty is irrelevant.

jaime_wolf, saying that someone is an ass because they don't like a game that you do makes you an ass. and how can you complain and whine about people complaining and whinning? do YOU honestly not realize you sound like a *****?
 

Zhukov

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Yes!

Thank you.

It irritates me no end when someone makes a thread like "Games that could have been improved with one small change" and a whole bunch of people reply along the lines of, "Black Ops could have been improved by throwing it in the bin!"

Yes, you're allowed to hate Black Ops (or any other game). Heck, I hate it too. But this is not the place to announce that. Especially if you don't give any reasoning.