Why Justin Bieber won't last... (speculation)
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unless he gets his shit together (like MJ which he cant) he will simply be forgotton (like 99.99% of the 90,s boy bands)
Ah yes Aaron Carter, brother of Nick Carter from the Backstreet boys if I remember correctly. I remember him being pretty big kind of like Mr. Bieber. Hopefully you're right about this one, because I am sick to death about hearing about this twat. At least Aaron Carter went through puberty and actually looked and sounded like a guy, girly boys like Bieber seems to be what every girl wants now.chupacabrawolf said:
A few days ago I went into a 99p electronics shop at the back was a load of "give a best price" albums and every single one was a terrible pop sensation such NSYNC, blue and the sugerbabes. The Jonas brothers will head that way and so will most over popular musicians mainly because their careers aren't built to last
Pop music depends massively on looks, when was the last time you saw a fat or middle aged person become a pop star? They don't because they aren't going to be that good of dancers and they aren't particularly good looking so they aren't popular. Along with that and the fact that the general public will latch onto something, listen to it for a few weeks and then completely forget about it. Look at the Jonas brothers, they were massive and now justin bieber or whatever crap the general public listen has taken the stand. However the same will go to him and all pop stars but it's what the want, a lot of money in a short amount of time and not many people to remember them.
At that is why I do not listen to anything on the radio or listen to anything in the charts, you must be incredibly shallow to enjoy the whole culture of it.
Pop music depends massively on looks, when was the last time you saw a fat or middle aged person become a pop star? They don't because they aren't going to be that good of dancers and they aren't particularly good looking so they aren't popular. Along with that and the fact that the general public will latch onto something, listen to it for a few weeks and then completely forget about it. Look at the Jonas brothers, they were massive and now justin bieber or whatever crap the general public listen has taken the stand. However the same will go to him and all pop stars but it's what the want, a lot of money in a short amount of time and not many people to remember them.
At that is why I do not listen to anything on the radio or listen to anything in the charts, you must be incredibly shallow to enjoy the whole culture of it.
I remember when N'Sync and Backstreet Boys were the shit, and I was in Junior High (I think , or close to.o_o). I didn't like EITHER one of them. I had pretended to like them at first, because I was already weird enough. I thought I'd get a few brownie points by making a decision between two bowls of turds. I picked N'Sync. To show everyone how much I liked them, I bought a calendar....and I didn't even hang it up. lol
Truth is, all 'pop sensations' eventually fade. Justin was really young when he started so he has SOME years to go, I think, before the flame for him is turned down. I think he'll always be around, since most of them are still recording ; but it wont be as obvious. He wont always be on the front page. His name will appear somewhere and people will go, "Heh, look at that, he's still at it." I love hearing, "I thought (s)he/they was/were dead!" That'll always be my favorite line when people find out that old pop sensations are still out there trying to do their thing.
Truth is, all 'pop sensations' eventually fade. Justin was really young when he started so he has SOME years to go, I think, before the flame for him is turned down. I think he'll always be around, since most of them are still recording ; but it wont be as obvious. He wont always be on the front page. His name will appear somewhere and people will go, "Heh, look at that, he's still at it." I love hearing, "I thought (s)he/they was/were dead!" That'll always be my favorite line when people find out that old pop sensations are still out there trying to do their thing.
Another reason Beaver won't last long? Is probably the fact that if you look up his song "Baby" on youtube it has far more thumbs DOWN than up. Someone as crazy skilled as MJ wouldn't have had a problem like that (Speculatively) had the internet been around then.
Actually, that raises a whole new question: How would famous musicians of the past have faired with the internets? I'm not talking piracy I'm talking the whole level of exposure. Such as if everyone had heard his very first songs over and goddamn over?
Actually, that raises a whole new question: How would famous musicians of the past have faired with the internets? I'm not talking piracy I'm talking the whole level of exposure. Such as if everyone had heard his very first songs over and goddamn over?
If you slow down Alvin and the Chipmunks they sound like three bored guys singing for a paycheck, and Dave sounds like a demon from the bowels of Hell.TrevorGruen said:
For extra fun, go find that one movie (not the live action one, the older 2D animated one. I think there's a scene where the Chipmunks get sacrificed to a volcano in it) with the Chipettes in it. If you slow down the Chipettes, they're all the same woman, playing all three parts.
I don't like getting my ears raped by him. when he fades away and dies by chocking on his own vomit after a coke overdose, Rebecca black will come finish the job with her auto tuned ear raping bullshit. I hope sabaton and two steps from he'll will release a new album
Once he turns 18, Disney will kick him to the curb in favour of some other young teen wannabe-idol. As long as he keeps auto-tuning his "work", his voice will never change.
He's doesn't leave an everlasting impression on the world like Queen, The Beatles, or Elton John...so history will pretty much swallow him up like the rest of his ilk.
He has the potiential to but I doubt it will happen. His label is just gonna suck as much money out of him as they possibly can and then dump him when he's not popular anymore. It'll be up to him where he wants to go from there but he'll propbably end up in a maccas job or he'll turn into the next Lindsey Lohan or something.
Two words: Michael Jackson.TrevorGruen said:
When he first appeared in the 60s everyone basically said the same things about him that they're saying about Justin now. That's not to say Justin will have that much longevity but if he makes the right career decisions there's no reason why it theoretically couldn't happen. And they're both more or less equally talented (fact).
Some big differences, though. The Beatles wrote their own music, and the absence of self-songwriting (writing your own godawful lyrics on a couple of tracks doesn't count) is enough by itself to prevent the current teen idols from being taken seriously. Rock was much younger in the Beatles days as well, and the 'rock and roll can change the world' idea hadn't even really taken off yet, let along grown old and died. Thirdly - and VERY importantly - the British pop market always been a very very different beast to American pop. British pop has included numerous bands than in the American market would be classified as indie or alternative: Blur, The Cure (who invented the term Britpop), The Church, Queen, Oasis, Pulp amongst many others. The Beatles are squarely a part of that pop tradition - where pop music means songs that are short and catchy, but are also self-written and creative. Pop, in the British market, differentiates it from from the long guitar-solo-heavy music of bands in the Led Zepellin/Rolling Stones tradition. The Brits have their teen idols as well, but they don't own the pop market in the way that the US teen idols do. Part of that is that pop just has bad connotations in the US, causing talented artists who write their own work to avoid the genre/title, instead calling themselves 'indie'.lwm3398 said:
But don't confuse the pop tradition of the Beatles/Cure/Smiths/Blur/Oasis/Pulp with the pop tradition of New Kids on the Block/Boyzone/Boys2Men/Sclub7/Britney Spears/Agueillera/Beiber tradition and assume that they're part of the same genre. Same word, both talking about short songs of 3-4 minutes with emphasised choruses, but very very different musical traditions.
Quoted for truth. Such is the nature of the music industry.TheYellowCellPhone said:
And holy crappin christ! You changed your avatar! What's the new one say?