Why, manga publishers, WHY??????

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kjh242

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Aaaaaas you may know, recently most big manga publishers changed their policies so that sites like OneManga that previously allowed you to read pretty much anything online can no longer show their mangas.In my eyes, SERIOUSLY NOT COOL, GUYS. I don't want to wait until Bleach chapter 415 and D.Gray-Man 197 come out stateside... sob.

Anyways, does anyone know why they chose to do this?

also, if you're only replying to criticize my choices of manga... F**K OFF.
 

Aura Guardian

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Soylent Bacon said:
Isn't reading them for free pretty much pirating? I'm not trying to be preachy, I don't care if you obey copyright laws or not, but you shouldn't be surprised that someone should try to prevent their material from getting out for free when they should be making money.
So that answered my question
 

kjh242

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Well, they haven't had a problem with it until now. these sites have been up for a long time, and a few are fairly well-known (OM even has its own google chrome extension...)
Funny, Japanese/Korean/whatever executives are...
 

Shoggoth2588

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I didn't know about such websites or services. I buy my manga in store or, for the harder to find ones, online.
 

RootbeerJello

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The fact that scanlations aren't cool with manga writers is entirely logical. I just don't get why they acted on it now, after scanlations have been around for years.
 

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Problem is that nobody would ever want to wait how many extra months it takes for the volume to be released, translated and then re-released in non Japanese market when people would scans and translate weekly newest chapters for free online. So unless the publisher wise up and offer at most one week delay with the translated version, nothing is going to change.

That's the problem that causes lots of pirating. The world is getting smaller thanks to the internet but the publishing/media industry still stick with their region base business model. The arbitrary imposed region restriction just doesn't make any sense in this day and age.

To OP: the big name manga would still be scanlated by various groups, you just have to look elsewhere. As for the smaller/less popular titles, it really is a shame as people would be less likely to be able to read those now.
 

Nannernade

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Money gets the best of people these days, if there is no reward in it for them why should they bother to do anything to please others?
 

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I think taking it offline will decrease sales because of people like me, who will only buy manga after I read it and thought it was good enough to spend my money on. Taking sites like onemanga down will make some people (like me and my friends) buy less. It's kinda similar to most people and pirating music.
 

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kjh242 said:
Well, they haven't had a problem with it until now. these sites have been up for a long time, and a few are fairly well-known (OM even has its own google chrome extension...)
Funny, Japanese/Korean/whatever executives are...
Scanlations have always been illegal and it's not that manga publishers have not had issues with their works being free online,they simply lacked the ability to do anything about it.If I'm not mistake several big name manga publishers recently came together to form a group to help police illegal scanlations.
 

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Cheveyo said:
The manga companies are blaming sites like OneManga for their abysmal sales here in the states(As well as in other countries).
They don't even stop to consider the fact that they charge far too much per volume.($10+ bucks per volume, fuck that)


I don't see this doing anything to improve their sales. Nothing will change, except maybe a decline in the amount of manga read outside Asian countries.
$10 where have you been buying yours I've been paying $25!!!
 

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Cheveyo said:
The manga companies are blaming sites like OneManga for their abysmal sales here in the states(As well as in other countries).
They don't even stop to consider the fact that they charge far too much per volume.($10+ bucks per volume, fuck that)

I don't see this doing anything to improve their sales. Nothing will change, except maybe a decline in the amount of manga read outside Asian countries.
They already did this with Black Jack. Scanlating sites took it down after a cease and desist was sent and the next volume that got released in the States had a pretty decent increase in sales.

That being said, the smaller series, aka "Anything that isn't Naruto, Bleach or One Piece", will most likely take a hit. Interesting times ahead. I'm betting that there will be a decrease in the amount of manga that ends up getting translated because people outside Japan won't even know the series exists, but if that happens we might see an increase in the number of smaller publishers that bring across the less well-known but infinitely better titles.
 

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kjh242 said:
Aaaaaas you may know, recently most big manga publishers changed their policies so that sites like OneManga that previously allowed you to read pretty much anything online can no longer show their mangas.In my eyes, SERIOUSLY NOT COOL, GUYS. I don't want to wait until Bleach chapter 415 and D.Gray-Man 197 come out stateside... sob.

Anyways, does anyone know why they chose to do this?

also, if you're only replying to criticize my choices of manga... F**K OFF.
YOU'RE STEALING FROM THEM!
And of course they want you to pay for the stuff they work hard to make. Really, the people behind Onemanga seem like nice guys and I feel sorry that they can't keep doing this, but what they're doing is ultimatly wrong. We're not entitled to this stuff, most of us, myself included are leeches. It sucks that stuff costs money, and we have to wait for stuff, but thats life. And a google chrome extenstion doesn't make this a allright thing to do. How does that justify anything?

on a calmer note:
If there was a legal way to get manga online for say 50-70$ (about the price of a years worth of weekly shoen Jump) and this hypothetical site would be yearly (50-70$), monthly (5-15$), ect. subscription, would you go for that?

Cheveyo said:
They don't even stop to consider the fact that they charge far too much per volume.($10+ bucks per volume, fuck that)
10 Bucks, those things are as thick as bricks! Not bad at all.
 

Aura Guardian

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Soylent Bacon said:
Aura Guardian said:
Soylent Bacon said:
Isn't reading them for free pretty much pirating? I'm not trying to be preachy, I don't care if you obey copyright laws or not, but you shouldn't be surprised that someone should try to prevent their material from getting out for free when they should be making money.
So that answered my question
Is that sarcasm? I can't tell through text. In case it's not clear to you, the people who made the manga want money for their intellectual property, which they don't make if sites like Onemanga put them up for anyone to view for free.
Not sarcasm. Sorry about the confusion.
 

Kiju

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Well, I have to agree with some of my fellow Escapists. To read a manga that hasn't been released in the US, for free, is legitimately considered pirating.

Now, if you were paying a monthly fee to view these mangas, and the site itself was paying the company money to put their manga on the internet for this monthly fee, then I would see no problem with it continuing strong, and prospering even.

However, if you were getting it for free, then yes, you were pirating it just as much as someone downloading free music from stuff like Kazaa. They probably took the site down because it was breaching their rights and didn't want to deal with it anymore due to the abysmal sales of manga stateside. Doesn't help that more often than not, when I come to a book store to buy a book, I see about eight or nine guys sitting in the Manga aisle, reading them so they don't have to buy them.

I've taken to reporting this to the store managers, since this is also a form of piracy. Then again, I have a steady dislike of manga, comicbooks, or anything of the sort. Pathetic excuse for reading material, they are...
 

Enzeru92

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I knew this was coming and I don't care because fans will find a way to read their manga for free one way or another so I have no worries on that besides I usually buy my manga when I want to support my favs
 

LooK iTz Jinjo

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Because this was causing them to lose money. The whole idea of business is to make money. They wanted to make more money. Pretty simple really.