Why Master Chief?

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Xero Scythe

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Edwardsjack said:
Machines Are Us said:
They wanted to make the point that it doesn't matter if you are the strongest, smartest, toughest or most accurate; you are fucked if you don't have a bit of luck on your side. As is seen by the fact that most of the others died.

That's my interpretation at least.

He is also supposed to be the bravest and have the strongest desire to win.

Oh, and he is also the one with the strongest leadership skills.
Thanks for clearly that up for me, and thanks for pointing out the things I missed. But...
xmetatr0nx said:
Why? Because its their product and they can do whatever the hell they want with it. Simple answer really. Also he holds the rank of Master Chief, so chain of command wise it makes sense.
How does luck help in a leadership role? He is only the rank of master chief because he became the the leader of Blue team.
no mmatter how fast or strong you are, if you take a bullet to the head, you are screwed. i cant tell you how many stories there are of people slipping or bending over to pick something up, being just missed by a bullet. look at the Normandy landing, we were lucky there. if the giant german guns were online, we would have been screwed. as is, Hitler was not expecting us there and so we won the day. all luck.
 

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To be fair i would prefer a blank slate of a character to a whinny little *****. A character like master chief doesnt get in the way, while a character like say Alex mercer from Prototype was just ridiculously annoying and helped to ruin that game for me.
 

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Machines Are Us said:
They wanted to make the point that it doesn't matter if you are the strongest, smartest, toughest or most accurate; you are fucked if you don't have a bit of luck on your side. As is seen by the fact that most of the others died.

That's my interpretation at least.

He is also supposed to be the bravest and have the strongest desire to win.

Oh, and he is also the one with the strongest leadership skills.
I thought the one with the best leadership skills was Kurt? Also, Master Chief does not do much in terms of leadership cause he hardly ever talks, he just does does his own thing.
 

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Gtyhujkl said:
Master Chief is the most overrated character of all time, he is so bland and devoid of personality. Gordan Freeman doesn't just kick his ass but he's actually a likeable character.
I'm sorry, did you just say Gordon Freeman is a likable character? The guy who doesn't talk? Who has no personality? Who, in fact, has no character? Nice one.
 

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Connor Lonske said:
Machines Are Us said:
They wanted to make the point that it doesn't matter if you are the strongest, smartest, toughest or most accurate; you are fucked if you don't have a bit of luck on your side. As is seen by the fact that most of the others died.

That's my interpretation at least.

He is also supposed to be the bravest and have the strongest desire to win.

Oh, and he is also the one with the strongest leadership skills.
I thought the one with the best leadership skills was Kurt? Also, Master Chief does not do much in terms of leadership cause he hardly ever talks, he just does does his own thing.
Chief wouldn't have been made the leader of the first batch if he didn't have the skills. Was Kurt the one whose death was faked in order for him to teach the second batch?

He doesn't talk in game because he doesn't have a squad or anything, in earlier days he would have given orders to the other Spartans.
 

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Well,being the weakest technically means his skills are eqaul all around when it comes to weapons and such,meaning he can do anything without a need for preference predecided for the player.

If he was the sniper guy,you would only snipe,making it harder for players who enjoy a good BR.mr fast would mean all you would do is run around popping off some hip-shots.strong guy wouldn't be much use outside of punching things I guess.

With Mr Chief you have no predetermined specialtys,making it a bit more open to weapon preference.
Yeah it'd be like only being able to play one class in TF2
 

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Machines Are Us said:
Connor Lonske said:
Machines Are Us said:
They wanted to make the point that it doesn't matter if you are the strongest, smartest, toughest or most accurate; you are fucked if you don't have a bit of luck on your side. As is seen by the fact that most of the others died.

That's my interpretation at least.

He is also supposed to be the bravest and have the strongest desire to win.

Oh, and he is also the one with the strongest leadership skills.
I thought the one with the best leadership skills was Kurt? Also, Master Chief does not do much in terms of leadership cause he hardly ever talks, he just does does his own thing.
Chief wouldn't have been made the leader of the first batch if he didn't have the skills. Was Kurt the one whose death was faked in order for him to teach the second batch?

He doesn't talk in game because he doesn't have a squad or anything, in earlier days he would have given orders to the other Spartans.
I only read Oxen and Flood, so I would not know much about Master Chief giving orders. Kurt did have a faked death to train the Spartan IIIs, he also had the highest rank (eg.Lieutenant).
 

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Connor Lonske said:
Machines Are Us said:
Connor Lonske said:
Machines Are Us said:
They wanted to make the point that it doesn't matter if you are the strongest, smartest, toughest or most accurate; you are fucked if you don't have a bit of luck on your side. As is seen by the fact that most of the others died.

That's my interpretation at least.

He is also supposed to be the bravest and have the strongest desire to win.

Oh, and he is also the one with the strongest leadership skills.
I thought the one with the best leadership skills was Kurt? Also, Master Chief does not do much in terms of leadership cause he hardly ever talks, he just does does his own thing.
Chief wouldn't have been made the leader of the first batch if he didn't have the skills. Was Kurt the one whose death was faked in order for him to teach the second batch?

He doesn't talk in game because he doesn't have a squad or anything, in earlier days he would have given orders to the other Spartans.
I only read Oxen and Flood, so I would not know much about Master Chief giving orders. Kurt did have a faked death to train the Spartan IIIs, he also had the highest rank (eg.Lieutenant).
Ok, in The Fall of Reach it explains how the Spartans came about and he is the leader of them, as such he gives orders and chooses overall battle strategies. He is the main character and such he does speak occasionally.
 

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I havent read the books, but maybe hes called Master Chief cuz hes the best at all the skills, and thats why only he survived.

Im most likely wrong, but whatever......
And the first comment is right, bungie can do whatever thay want with their franchise.
 

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Edwardsjack said:
Today, I want to talk about something that has been bothering me lately; Master Chief. Some people might not know this, but Bungie has made many books about the extended universe of Halo (all of them I like expect the latest one). In one of these books, you learn the origins of Master Chief and the other Spartans, plus what happen on Reach before the first (and best) game. When you are reading, you might pick up the fact the each Spartan has "special abilities" unique to them. Kelly is the fastest, Sam is the strongest, and Linda is the sniper of the bunch and has the best aim. John is just the luckiest. That's it.

So my question is, if Bungie had created all of these wonderful characters that I actually liked, cared about, and had better "abilities", why, why did the fell the need to put one of the most plainest characters, and that (lets face it) weakest of the bunch to make the main charter in their story?

I'm not anti-Halo, I'm anti-Master Cheif.
Mostly because the books were written after the game was released and they gave the author (Eric Nylund) a bit of wriggle room when it came the characters, with them more caring about him not contradicting their own timeline of events and that stuff. Halo: CE was a success before the idea for a novel entered into the heads of anyone at Bungie/Microsoft (Who are the real guys behind the books being made).

Also, 819 / 7 = 117. So while it might be a fitting reference to a proverb, I feel this might mean a bit more to Bungie. Don't know why? Then you don't know what you're talking about!
 
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In the books, he has the best tactical knowledge and reflexes. Not to mention leadership skills, he genuinely cared about his mates.

Not to mention, in the last book you find out that the Spartans survived under Reach when it was glassed.
 

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I doubt Bungie had the novels in mind when they convieved the master chief as main character, stop crying.
Exactly this. It's called retconning, and every successful franchise that started out as a single story does it (Star Wars, anyone?). Basically, the creators built the foundation, then others added more walls, rooms, etc. to build the house of Halo.
 

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Thanks everyone for clearing this up for me, I thought Fall of reach came out right after Halo Combat Evolved, but with a little research I found out I was wrong. This forum really surprised me. I was on our forms posting similar replays, but this is the only one that didn't have 6 people just talk about how great John was and how wrong I was. So, thank you, people of the Escapist for all your help. I new to this site, so know I think I will check out some of these videos....
 

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In the first book he is selected because he wins. He is not the fastest that was someone else, as was brute strength sniping and there was probably someone better at every single individual stat there would be to measure. But he beats these people in competitions. The book characterizes it as luck but when it comes down to it you don't put the loser in charge of a group, you put the one they respect. The one that beat them. As for why the others are not in the game... they are all dead before the game even happens. They introduce a new type of spartan in 'ghosts of onyx' which may eventually make an appearance but ultimately chief is the last of the Spartans from the original books still around to fight.