Why Russia?
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Because there are a bunch of people who fantasize about what would have happened if the Cold War had escalated into World War III (I am not one of these people.)
I honestly have no problem with the Russians being antagonists, but only if they're done right. The problem with most of these games is a lot of the time the Russians are just bastards for no real reason. Case in point: In Modern Warfare, at least we got a little bit of the Communists' ideology: they think that their leaders whored their country out to the United States, and want both to pay as a result. Decent enough logic. Now look at Modern Warfare 2: Somehow, magically, a terrorist leader has become a national hero, and the entire country is now willing to commit a horrible, expensive and possibly suicidal war with the United States. The question is why. Sure, apparently a CIA agent was caught in a terrorist act, but you're seriously telling me that the airport cameras didn't pick up Makarov's face or anything? That's never really explained, and that's the problem. They ignore all the reasons why the Russians WOULDN'T go to war over something this stupid. I don't care who the antagonist is, I just want decent reasons behind why they're villains.
Because America and Russia are the only two big nations that are particularly warlike and have similar weapons. I mean, China and North Korea are too topical, a video game with a war between N. Korea and American could easily be taken as a provocation by Kim Jong-Il. The only other safe bet is the Middle East and well... y'know. Terrorists groups might not like that. Last thing Activision need is a bomb at their headquarters. The only sort of safe nations that they could easily dress up as evil are Russia and Germany, and Germany would have to be set in the past. Or Japan in the past I suppose.
Beyond that, if you want a full out war game, where else do you go? Could be some sort of Civil War, I suppose. That or aliens.
On MW2 though, am I right in saying that they start in the Middle East then they follow the money and it takes them to Russia? Irony.
Beyond that, if you want a full out war game, where else do you go? Could be some sort of Civil War, I suppose. That or aliens.
On MW2 though, am I right in saying that they start in the Middle East then they follow the money and it takes them to Russia? Irony.
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Back on topic, yes, it does eliminate any cries from the general public about using the "Taliban" *cough* MoH *cough* The Cold War is so far in the past (compared to nowadays, anyway...) people don't really care about it anymore because the Russians were perceived as actual bad guys.
Its just easier and less hassle to use Russia and Germany as story scape goats than say lets shoot the americans or auzzies
Hey,don't get me wrong, I love the Ruskies just as much as the next guy (Vodka anyone?) they are just the only competent country to actually make a dent into america if America were to ever be invaded.
My (other) theory is that it is the battle of the fittest. Look at it this way, neither countries have ever been conquered (Napoleon and Hitler for Russia, Britain for America), so it all boils down to who is the best at staying unconquerable. Which just makes for a good game.
My (other) theory is that it is the battle of the fittest. Look at it this way, neither countries have ever been conquered (Napoleon and Hitler for Russia, Britain for America), so it all boils down to who is the best at staying unconquerable. Which just makes for a good game.
why not choose an enemy that is actually evil? like North Korea?
oh and:
In Modern Russia, US are bad guys!!
oh and:
In Modern Russia, US are bad guys!!
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But yeah, all the Islamic terrorists stuff is a bit too muddled (though it's not like the Cold War was any LESS so) for anyone's palate. Sure, nobody remembers Operation Ajax or all those wonderful friends the US made in South America back in the Cold War, but Americans love a good ol' fashioned Ruskie bad guy.
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Because blaming russia is easy, as they were our enemies during the cold war.
Did you know that on google translate, you cant read phonetically in polski?
i have a better theory. americans secretly all love russian accents and the russian language. but most male gamers aged 18-25 cant relate to russians, so russians cannot be the protagonists. so they must be enemies! its basically fan service, i guess.
valid theory?
valid theory?
Would your average american gamer be shocked/disgusted to have Russian's as the good guy's destroying the U.S.A for their intolerable actions and smothering of the world?
Im guessing that sort of game wouldn't sell very well. :S (/rant)
Every game, book or movie I have ever interacted with containing Russian's as the "bad guys" or "good guys" I find a lot more intriguing than your usual AAA title with American's kicking ass. I respect the character and personalities much more when they're not put this way.
I guess I am a small part of an audience that doesn't want anymore typical "American Badassery" in my AAA Release. But a larger American audience is what they are catered too eh?
Im guessing that sort of game wouldn't sell very well. :S (/rant)
Every game, book or movie I have ever interacted with containing Russian's as the "bad guys" or "good guys" I find a lot more intriguing than your usual AAA title with American's kicking ass. I respect the character and personalities much more when they're not put this way.
I guess I am a small part of an audience that doesn't want anymore typical "American Badassery" in my AAA Release. But a larger American audience is what they are catered too eh?
Short answer: laziness.
Long answer: Laziness. There is no country in the world that can threaten America, so they go back to the last enemy they had which actually could threaten them. Plus it caters to the many American morons who still see the world through anti-commie Cold War glasses. And its still pretty recent history.
The other lazy option is China, because they could have similar relative military strength in the nearish future. Though China won't actually start anything because they just wants to sell shit. Make clothes not war is their moto.
I think just not playing as Americans would open things up a little to new enemies. A game where you get to fight a big evil imperialist America would spice things up and would sell like hot-cakes in the Middle East and South America! It would be on every Palestinians Christmas list...
Long answer: Laziness. There is no country in the world that can threaten America, so they go back to the last enemy they had which actually could threaten them. Plus it caters to the many American morons who still see the world through anti-commie Cold War glasses. And its still pretty recent history.
The other lazy option is China, because they could have similar relative military strength in the nearish future. Though China won't actually start anything because they just wants to sell shit. Make clothes not war is their moto.
I think just not playing as Americans would open things up a little to new enemies. A game where you get to fight a big evil imperialist America would spice things up and would sell like hot-cakes in the Middle East and South America! It would be on every Palestinians Christmas list...
Why not? The arms race and Cold War never really ended. We just decided to stop threatening each other.
All the major superpowers are competing to see who has the biggest weaponpenis. Russia is America's biggest threat, so they go for those guys.
Painting them as assholes makes them feel better about picking on such an incredibly poor country.
Do not quote me I am drunk and do not even know what I am saying.
All the major superpowers are competing to see who has the biggest weaponpenis. Russia is America's biggest threat, so they go for those guys.
Painting them as assholes makes them feel better about picking on such an incredibly poor country.
Do not quote me I am drunk and do not even know what I am saying.
Just so you know, not as many Americans are actually paranoid, obese, warmongers as people seem to think. In my experience it's just the vocal minority and those idiots on news stations who give that impression. Also, most Americans I have met actually think of Russians as bad ass vodka-drinking bear-riders. That's a good thing in my opinionnomis101uk said:
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