WHY SELF HARM??

[parasyteFMA]

Cutting yourself = Wanting attention
Taking chunks of flesh off you = Self Harm

 

[Xanian]

I can actually answer this one from experience:

My friend and I practiced self-harm fairly regularly during Jr. High School to cope with various situations that Jr. High students can't usually escape from, (for both of us, combination poor home life and sexual abuse.) We sneered at "Attention whores" who did it in places you could "see" the damage or that would leave scars. We actually had some complex rules on how to do it and control it so people wouldn't know any better and the pain from the experience could be felt throughout the day.

While I can't speak for her, I can say for myself that I did it for the same reason some girls are anorexic...control. It was something I could control. I could control how much pain I endured...where it was and what people would think if they saw it, (the palm of my hand was a favorite place because it is a place where injury is common and healing is quick, so people would assume you cut or burned yourself in the kitchen. Plus scarring is rare if you do it right.) It gave me a profound sense of power to have this secret that others didn't know about.

Another aspect was focus. It gave me something else to focus my attention on so that I wouldn't feel depressed or angry. If I cut or burned the soles of my feet or between my toes, I could feel the pain all day and had something else to think about. It's difficult to explain the mix of emotions you feel while you do it, but it does focus to a pin point during the "process" and ...sorry...I'm having a hard time explaining this...and it clears the clutter of your mind. It's a bit like focusing on a challenging puzzle. How do I do this without causing too much harm...leaving scars...raising suspicions...it's a very...unique experience.

Needless to say, I eventually realized how stupid I was and what a useless emotional crutch it was. I grew-up and learned to adjust to the situations life gave me. I found other, better coping methods that effectively addressed my issues, rather than avoid them.

I think it's something someone has to grow out of on their own. By trying to make her stop, she'll probably just do it more, especially if she's just doing it for attention.

 

[priestswearseatbelts]

Attention.

/end thread

Ser, I advise that you read through the other posts. Educate yourself.

Maybe then you will stop being an insufferable tool.

Personal insults? O.K.

My education is substantial as it stands. Also more applied to the topic at hand. Wikipedia isn't a valid medical publication. Thank you for the suggestion though.

I've read all I need to. On an, almost, exclusively first world disorders. Anyone in a position to spend time working towards treating or alleviating them, through therapy. Should be investing time in more worthy causes.

Get of your high horse. You hold no morality over me. Whilst residing in a country that makes the medieval period look like futurama. In terms of human rights and general liberties or freedoms. Especially if you are there through choice.

Just to be crystal clear. We were asked for out thoughts on the subject. By a third party. You decided to throw an insult my way. Which says a lot about you, physiologically and socially.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Attention or catharsis. It's usually a combination of the two. I've done it for both of those reasons on occasion.
Leaving visible scars is usually a case of attention-seeking.

 

[priestswearseatbelts]

Attention.

/end thread

Ser, I advise that you read through the other posts. Educate yourself.

Maybe then you will stop being an insufferable tool.

Personal insults? O.K.

My education is substantial as it stands. Also more applied to the topic at hand. Wikipedia isn't a valid medical publication. Thank you for the suggestion though.

I've read all I need to. On an, almost, exclusively first world disorders. Anyone in a position to spend time working towards treating or alleviating them, through therapy. Should be investing time in more worthy causes.

Get of your high horse. You hold no morality over me. Whilst residing in a country that makes the medieval period look like futurama. In terms of human rights and general liberties or freedoms. Especially if you are there through choice.

Just to be crystal clear. We were asked for out thoughts on the subject. By a third party. You decided to throw an insult my way. Which says a lot about you, physiologically and socially.

My thoughts on the matter were not created through Wikipedia, they were created through years of being around medical professionals, either where I am concerned or whilst I was acting as someones carer.

Anyone who assumes that all self harm is for attention is an insufferable tool, no matter how you look at it. It is similar to being racist, end of. Stating that it is all for attention is tantamount to saying that nobody who self harms has anything wrong with them, bar perhaps self-esteem issues. I was not saying you are stupid, merely saying that you are an ass for thinking as much. And yes, I feel justified to insult you, on a personal level, for being an ass. Much like I attack racists.

I simply think you should read through what has been said within this post, perhaps what I have written myself and open your eyes the the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you are wrong for being so insulting to those that suffer from any mental health disorder.

Your "Thought" that it is all due to wanting attention is as wrong as thinking that all black guys are stupid or all jews are money grabbing or any other racial slur. Hiding behind the fact that it is merely your "Opinion" is asking noone to take offence to your opinion.

And socially this merely indicates one thing. I hate the stigma that people who self harm suffer from. I feel that anyone who claims it is all down to attention seeking behaviour is insulting a rather large subset of society. Anyone who makes such a claim should be torn down for making such a claim.

So yes, you are an insufferable tool. Simply because you continue to think as you do.

If you have anything else to say on the matter, pm me. I do not think this discussion should be had within this mainly civil thread.

Again with the personal assumptions and judgments. With added, ridiculous, and unfounded accusations of racism... based on on god only knows what.

My thoughts on the matter were not created through Wikipedia, they were created through years of being around medical professionals, either where I am concerned or whilst I was acting as someones carer.

I'm not sure what is less believable. That you would be in a position to care for anyone's mental health. Or that you don't acquire knowledge on the subjects that you seem to gravitate towards on these boards, via Google. Regurgitating the most liberal view. In an effort to come off looking like a white knight. Instead of looking at the topics at hand objectively. Replying with, honest, answers. Based on what you observe and not what you have read.

You spending time in the care of mental health professional. That's totally believable.

Anyone who assumes that all self harm is for attention is an insufferable tool, no matter how you look at it. It is similar to being racist, end of. Stating that it is all for attention is tantamount to saying that nobody who self harms has anything wrong with them, bar perhaps self-esteem issues. I was not saying you are stupid, merely saying that you are an ass for thinking as much. And yes, I feel justified to insult you, on a personal level, for being an ass. Much like I attack racists.

So in you're tautology. Broken down into it's simplest form. Is that anyone with an opinion opposing that which you hold. Is labeled 'X' (where x = 'insufferable tool'). You then go on to state that this is a binary state, in any and all observations. X equates to Y (where Y is 'a racist'). I'll forget the 'ass' statement; lest we complicate this further.

In short anyone with an opposing opinions to that which you hold. Is labeled a racist.

You need to take a breath and a step back. Look at what you just compared and concluded.

I simply think you should read through what has been said within this post, perhaps what I have written myself and open your eyes the the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you are wrong for being so insulting to those that suffer from any mental health disorder.

You are assuming that I did not read through this, very short, thread before posting. If you are implying that I am not open minded. I can assure you that my mind is open to everything. So long as it can be proven or I can be convinced that we could attain proof, given the right circumstances (i.e. theory).

"If you open your mind too much. Your brains will fall out."
-Tim Minchen

Perhaps I would be in the wrong. If I had been insulting, to those with a mental disorder.

I would suggest you follow your own advice and read through the thread. I insulted you and the people wasting resources and focus. On lesser, first world, problems. Not those that 'suffer' at their own hands. In the pursuit of attention. Which. If they are in care. They have achieved.

Your "Thought" that it is all due to wanting attention is as wrong as thinking that all black guys are stupid or all jews are money grabbing or any other racial slur. Hiding behind the fact that it is merely your "Opinion" is asking noone to take offence to your opinion.

X and Y again. You clearly have some real issues.

Nothing can be 'as wrong'. Wrong is intangible and unquantifiable. Jews has a capital 'J' (while I'm correcting) and it's 'offense' not 'offence'. I haven't broken any laws.

I have no idea how your mind is reaching these conclusions and comparisons. What I do know. Is that they are far from cogent. You seem to want to paint anyone who disagrees, with your point of view. As a generic, archetypal, 'bad guy'. Imparting the worst possible character flaws unto them.

I'm not hiding behind my opinions. If anything I'm being very frank and up front about them. This seems like it's one of your 'go to' argumentative counters. Since you methodology of debate seems to be. Expending efforts to make the opposition look worse, in an effort to add more weight to your, flimsy, case. Instead of using that energy to form, valid, arguments.

And socially this merely indicates one thing. I hate the stigma that people who self harm suffer from. I feel that anyone who claims it is all down to attention seeking behaviour is insulting a rather large subset of society. Anyone who makes such a claim should be torn down for making such a claim.

Apart from the, quite frankly, terrible grammar. This is probably the closest think to an intelligent and cohesive argument. In all of your rantings.

Unfortunately the closing point. Is free speech for everyone; that says what I want to hear.~

So yes, you are an insufferable tool. Simply because you continue to think as you do.

This reminds me of a story about a vinyl disc with a scratch on it.

I'm not sure who died and made you judge, jury and executioner, come one. Definer of men. With the power to match though processing to states of being.

Perhaps your character is determined by your opinions on, one particular topic. Or, you think, that you can asses others with the same rule set.

A little broadening of the mind is in order.

If you have anything else to say on the matter, pm me. I do not think this discussion should be had within this mainly civil thread.

You made it uncivil. When you made personal attacks, towards me, in a public forum.

I agree though. We should be continuing this in private messages.

I have serious, SERIOUS, doubts. That you will be able to man up and avoid having the last word in public though. You just strike me as 'that guy'.

If you can resist the temptation. I apologize and tip my hat.