Could someone tell me why people want them to go software only? And could someone actually make a case, from a business perspective, why it would be better for them? No "Their games would be better on other hardware" or "I want to play their games, but not enough to buy their consoles". From an objective business standpoint, how would it be a good idea?
Why should Nintendo go third party?
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I seriously doubt that nearly as many people would buy Nintendo's games on other platforms as you may think. For one thing, XB1/PS4 targets a VERY different audience than the Wii U.
Sega and Atari only left the console market because they were bleeding money from consecutive failures.
Sega and Atari only left the console market because they were bleeding money from consecutive failures.
Well, I'm not one to tell them to instantly go third part, but:
You can start with the fact that they ended up having a loss in the Wii U department regardless of strong software sales [http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/29/5356772/nintendo-falls-short-of-hardware-and-software-sales-forecasts]. Essentially, their games are popular, but the console is hurting them, and the games' popularity is being squandered due to being on an unpopular console. Now, this wouldn't be as problematic if they actually released a good console with decent third-party support, but it still shows that their hardware department is sort of dragging them down right now. Even the Nintendo 3DS couldn't pick up the slack from the Wii U.
Now, going third party because of this is a short-term decision that would likely hurt them compared to what they could do. What Nintendo should focus on is actually delivering a competitive console and fostering better third-party relationships. People want to play Nintendo, but they don't want to buy the system, so they ask for Nintendo to go third party. That's certainly better than Nintendo's current status, but they would likely be served better by actually fixing their model so that they make consoles gamers want.
You can start with the fact that they ended up having a loss in the Wii U department regardless of strong software sales [http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/29/5356772/nintendo-falls-short-of-hardware-and-software-sales-forecasts]. Essentially, their games are popular, but the console is hurting them, and the games' popularity is being squandered due to being on an unpopular console. Now, this wouldn't be as problematic if they actually released a good console with decent third-party support, but it still shows that their hardware department is sort of dragging them down right now. Even the Nintendo 3DS couldn't pick up the slack from the Wii U.
Now, going third party because of this is a short-term decision that would likely hurt them compared to what they could do. What Nintendo should focus on is actually delivering a competitive console and fostering better third-party relationships. People want to play Nintendo, but they don't want to buy the system, so they ask for Nintendo to go third party. That's certainly better than Nintendo's current status, but they would likely be served better by actually fixing their model so that they make consoles gamers want.
Didn't you make this thread already, like, a few months ago!?
Has anything new happened at Camp Nintendo to warrent another one of these? For all the 'Enough with Nintendo is doomed', it's the fans here that can't seem to stop bringing it up.
Has anything new happened at Camp Nintendo to warrent another one of these? For all the 'Enough with Nintendo is doomed', it's the fans here that can't seem to stop bringing it up.
So we are back again doing our damnedest to start another console war with WiiU of all things... look mate we don't care, keep as many Nintendo love pillows as you want but don't got around annoying people with them.
Actually, now you mention it, you're right.Casual Shinji said:
I had a look, and sure enough:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.840886-Your-reaction-if-Nintendo-went-third-party
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.822236-Could-Nintendo-go-third-party
Okay, seriously, what is up with all the people on this forum who keep making the same thread again and again and again?
Because despite the XB1/PS4/PC generally catering for more "mature" audiences, I suspect there are a lot of people who, through actually liking Nintendo games or just sheer nostalgia, would happily buy the games if they were available on those platforms. The (perceived) problem atm is that, with the awful 3rd party support of the Wii U, Nintendo are basically charging a £200+ "loyalty tax" in order to play their games.
IceForce said:
Well, I believe that everything that has been said already will be enough for this particular discussion as the WiiU holding pattern seems to be unchanged, for better or for worse.
Come back when Nintendo has released another big title or ten VG_Addict, then there may be something to discuss.
Same, if I actually cared about Nintendo titles. As someone who seemingly missed being hit by the Nintendo Nostalgia Stick I don't really get their games. I could be wrong and be missing out on some good titles but I'm not about to spend a couple of hundred bucks on a 'could.'Charcharo said:
For once I actually agree, things were starting to calm and settle down here for a while and I haven't seen an anti Nintendo thread on the front gaming forum page for at least 2 weeks now.Casual Shinji said:
Can we please stop repeating the same exact topic over and over, surely this has to be a break in the TOS because it's just spamming now and it's getting no one nowhere, people here who want them to go Third party are highly unlikely to change their minds and the same with nintendo fans, there's no changing anyones minds on this site really.
If anything i might have to report the thread since I don't want to see another shitfest again with people shitting on Nintendo and defenders any further than it already has before because it;s really just daft, stupid and childish.
I'll just say why people would prefer Nintendo to do it as opposed to Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo has great first party games, but little else worth getting a console for. Sony and Microsoft have the third-party support, but few great first party games. So if Nintendo went third party it makes it accessible to people that like Nintendo but don't want to spend $300 just to play Nintendo games.
As for myself, I'd be fine if Nintendo went fully handheld, because that's where they are strongest, but I really don't care what happens to them at this point.
As for myself, I'd be fine if Nintendo went fully handheld, because that's where they are strongest, but I really don't care what happens to them at this point.
Ice gets it. It seems like a pretty simple bit of business there. Besides, there is very little that the Wii U offers to justify the £200 price tag due to the lack of third party games, as a result, the overall sales of this console are so devastatingly low that even after numerous price cuts, Nintendo still has to lower sales targets. If Nintendo went third party with their console games, the sales of their games would go up, and they wouldn't lose money over because of their failing console. To put this into perspective, the Wii U has sold 5.8 million units in over a year, whereas the Xbox One and PS4 have collectively sold over 8 million in the space of a few months. Now, if Nintendo decided to port their games over to the PS4, Xbox One and PC, that is a HELL of a lot more potential customers than what Nintendo has right now.IceForce said:
Can we just end these threads here please? To throw my hat in the ring Nintendo will probably be better to take their franchises to the grave with them rather than go third party. Although I will be curious to how it might actually turn out but as of this moment they won't go third party since they still have a Scrooge McDuck's vault worth of money and are worth more than Sony ( I really don't want Sony to go bankrupt. Please Sony don't go. I Like your Xperias just don't).
And again I have to ask can we end these types of threads please? Instead can we discuss having an awards show like the Razzies for video games please?
And again I have to ask can we end these types of threads please? Instead can we discuss having an awards show like the Razzies for video games please?