Why so few games in 1080p?
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If the GPU is capable of doing what you want it to do, why would it become outdated? I guess all consoles were outdated in less than a month after their release?LegendaryGamer0 said:Which will be outdated in less than a month.Cronq said:
Modern is never really "modern". Hell, I'm fine with playing on outdated hardware. I'm playing my NES on my 37 inch.
Will always be modern to me.
All consoles were outdated even before they started being sold.octafish said:If the GPU is capable of doing what you want it to do, why would it become outdated? I guess all consoles were outdated in less than a month after their release?LegendaryGamer0 said:Which will be outdated in less than a month.Cronq said:
Modern is never really "modern". Hell, I'm fine with playing on outdated hardware. I'm playing my NES on my 37 inch.
Will always be modern to me.
1080p is a good cap we have at the moment, and I'm not sure how many new caps will be introduced as 'the' standard, eg. the new Full High Definition, or when 720p and 1080i will become standard (low high defintion... low definition, any better than just rebranded as, standard definition).
The biggest issue here, my house is a classic example. I have a 720p projector, all the channels are in 720p (or 1080i, I know), but excluding blu-ray movies and some games, there's not much push for me to upgrade my projector, so I don't. It'll be great once the networks jump up a size, but I think that won't be until something jumps past 1080p.
The biggest issue here, my house is a classic example. I have a 720p projector, all the channels are in 720p (or 1080i, I know), but excluding blu-ray movies and some games, there's not much push for me to upgrade my projector, so I don't. It'll be great once the networks jump up a size, but I think that won't be until something jumps past 1080p.
I used to be a PC enthusiast, but I got sick of always tinkering with graphics settings just to play a game. Sometimes it would take half an hour before I could get a frame rate decent enough to play on. On the Ps3 however, I just put the game in, lie down on my comfy bed (as opposed to sitting down and craning over a monitor) and play until my eyes bleed.
1) Do they know any better (that is, how many console gamers have tried gaming at 1080 on a capable PC so that they have a point of comparison)?Tupolev said:
2) All other things being equal, a HD TV screen will typically look better than a comparable monitor (as you would expect; they're typically several times more expensive and much better quality). This goes some way to compensate for the deficiencies of the consoles.
Not true. A good quality PC gaming experience can be had pretty cheaply these days. For example, each quarter Tom's Hardware builds and tests a PC at various different price points. The most recent one they built for $US 500 delivers very good performance with results that comfortably outstrip the consoles. The picture is even better if you are simply upgrading an existing PC. Graphics hardware has never been better value than it is today.MercurySteam said:
The actual games are also typically cheaper on PC than on the consoles.
Also don't forget the cost of the big TV screen you connect your console to. Yes, you can use it for other things, but a PC can be used for all sorts of things too.
Anything below 5fps is noticeable to me.Xzi said:Well I wouldn't say that your first comment is necessarily true, as the console turnover rate prior to this generation has generally been about three years. So it's actually quite possible to outlive a console's usefulness prior to needing an upgrade on your PC.LegendaryGamer0 said:So I don't have to spend money to upgrade my rig every 3-5 years and just desire to play a game?Xzi said:Not at all. What's the point of buying a standardized platform if you don't get generally favorable and stable frame rates? I've never had unacceptably low frame rates on my Xbox 360 running at the highest resolutions that these games support, but that's because developers know to drop the quality settings to a level it can handle.LegendaryGamer0 said:<.<Xzi said:No doubt, but that's not something you normally have to worry about. Especially not on consoles.LegendaryGamer0 said:<.<Xzi said:LegendaryGamer0 said:Because consoles can't really handle resource demanding games in 1080p. Better to lower the resolution and have a smoother game than jack it up to 1080p and have it run like shite.
Hell, until 3 or so weeks ago, I use to game on an 11 inch Emerson in 480i. With Mono sound. Left speaker only. With a fucking VCR built in. That didn't work. While playing a foot away from the screen.
Now, I play on a 37 inch 1080p VIZIO. Happy with it, have seen tiny little details in games I have not seen before. Able to tell in Bro Company 2 that the objective says A, B, C and D. But, if it randomly exploded on me, I would proudly go back to my old TV. I grew up on small screens. It is a part of the gaming legacy.
Whatever happened to enjoying the game? ;~;Yup...Xzi said:
When it comes at the cost of performance, I'd rather have the graphics take a shit. <.<
You're kidding, right?
Then again, I've never played games like Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, or Metro 2033 on my console either...those I always reserve for the PC.
Define "unacceptably" low. Are we talking extreme stutter or "Holy Shit, is this game even running?"?
I reserve those for consoles. When I get them, that is.
Below 35 FPS or so is fairly noticeable to me.
And if you're going to give credit to older games, that goes both ways. Buy a single PC and you can play anything from the very beginning of gaming's history. Have a PS3 and want to play SNES games? Too bad, you'll have to buy an extra console. The prices of which only increase as they get older. And even if you do get your hands on one, good luck finding good games for it at anything less than $150.LegendaryGamer0 said:Which will be outdated in less than a month.
Modern is never really "modern". Hell, I'm fine with playing on outdated hardware. I'm playing my NES on my 37 inch.
Will always be modern to me.
I prefer to have physical copies of my games and to play them on their original system. Plus, I can still find said games no matter the price.
Even if they are the Cardcaptor Sakura games and will run me $500 total. >.>
Hmmm... I still haven't replaced my 3 year old ATI 4350 GPU which I got new for about $50. I've to run everything at 800x600 these days so that it doesn't lag. I'm having a personal bet with myself about how long this bastard is going to last. Very possibly till the end of this year...  LegendaryGamer0 said:
Yes. Poor PC gamers with budget PCs do exist.
I was told the other day that when a PS3 is fed a disk which has 1080, 720 and below, it will often default to 720 even if the box states that 1080 is available. Apparently, a way around this is to adjust the display settings on your PS3 so that ONLY 1080 is ticked when you're given the option between the various resolutions.
I haven't had the chance to confirm or deny this yet and if it is true, I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you changed the settings and then put a disk which only offers a max of 720 in the console.
I haven't had the chance to confirm or deny this yet and if it is true, I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you changed the settings and then put a disk which only offers a max of 720 in the console.
Brofist for budget bro.Raiyan 1.0 said:Hmmm... I still haven't replaced my 3 year old ATI 4350 GPU which I got new for about $50. I've to run everything at 800x600 these days so that it doesn't lag. I'm having a personal bet with myself about how long this bastard is going to last. Very possibly till the end of this year...  LegendaryGamer0 said:
Yes. Poor PC gamers with budget PCs do exist.
Probably because our current gen consoles are using hardware that is at the very least 5 years old... I hope they bring out a new gen soon enough instead of trying to stretch this one out any longer. Be nice to see what console games would look like with current hardware and it would probably benefit the P.C gamers too.
