Why so much hate for Sony?

[Eldritch Warlord]

Give me a reason that you dislike the PS3 or Sony and I'll find a reason that you are either stupid, unlucky, or that other companies have done it before.

Add biased to this list.

P.S. If you haven't heard grom me lately it's because my computer was down.
P.P.S. My computer is Vista.
P.P.P.S. Vista was made by Microsoft.
P.P.P.P.S. So was the Xbox360.
P.P.P.P.P.S. They both crash more than my PS3.

Pathetic fanboy.

Anyway, here's a reason to dislike Sony. A while ago they announced that their soon to be released new PS3 model would not be backwards compatable with PS2 games. When the rep was asked why he said something along the lines of "To make people stop buying PS2 games."

 

[tiredinnuendo]

I must be so hard for everyone who still lives with their parents and can't just budget to buy themselves both systems. It must be awfully hard to force yourself to hate something (whether the XBox or the PS3) just because it's something you can't have.

Both systems have merits, as does the Wii. We actually have a generation where we have three healthy consoles on the market, and that's something we should all be happy about.

But you can't be, because you're young and still live at home and your dad won't buy you both systems and you have to pick a "best".

This thread was supposed to be about disliking Sony, and between their computers, their horrible customer support, and SOE; there are plenty of good reasons to poke fun at them. Just because you bought a system and you don't want to ever have to wonder if maybe the other one would've been good too doesn't mean you have to ignore the fun to be had in lampooning them.

I like my 360 way better than my PS3 right now, but I'll still gladly bash MS for their more boneheaded actions, but then you have people in this thread trying to act as proxy PR for their company of choice and shaming us all in the process. When Sony said that rumble is for bitches it was a damn bone-headed move, and it's FUNNY. Don't defend it, just fucking laugh. When Microsoft made a controller the size of a small car, it wasn't a great controller that just took some getting used to, it was damn stupid. LAUGH AT THEM!

GODDAMMIT STOP MASTURBATING YOUR COMPANY OF CHOICE AND JUST LAUGH, YOU SHAVED APES!

*wink*

- J

 

[Wargamer]

A few things... first of which being I've skipped most [all] of this thread, so I'm not replying to anyone other than the OP really.


People say Sony "stole" the Achievements idea off X-Box. I say it's throwing a fat kid into a lake to see if he swims. Why risk time and money testing an idea if your rivals can take the risk for you? It happens in the real world too; Composite Doors used to be pretty hard to find, but now one of the big Door manufacturers is backing them every door fabricator and his granny make them.

Personally, I think it's jealousy. The worst technical fault you can level at the Playstation and its successors is that, in the PSX and PS2, the 1st edition version of each console tended to have disk reader problems in later life. This meant that about halfway through the console's life expectancy, you had to have a major overhaul, or ditch it and buy a new one.

By the time my PSX died, I could pick up a replacement for £40. My PS2 is struggling (not "dying", not yet at least), but I have a PS3 now so in theory Sony is happy. I have moved on. Plus, I'm obviously going to buy a new PS2 when mine DOES die, because I can play PSX / PS2 games on it but not the PS3.

Would anyone care to make a list of faults the X-Box / 360 suffers from? Would it be quicker to list what works? Hmm... can we say "the casing" without someone proving us wrong?


I have never liked the X-Box. When it came out, I was firmly rooted in Sony / Nintendo, and dismissed the X-Box as overpriced crap that would soon tank and die. By the time the X-Box finally got a reputation worth spitting on, I still wasn't interested because the N64 was on the way out and I was debating whether I should move on to the Gamecube.

The 360 was duly ignored by me, partly because I still considered the X-Box not worth the time and effort (if I couldn't get it on PS2, I could get it on PC).

Now the PS3 is in my possession, I DEFINATELY don't consider the 360 worthwhile. I've just shelled a lot of cash on a new console, so I won't be buying another for a long while.

Is this irrational hatred of the X-Box unfounded? Probably, but frankly I don't care. I am by no means a "Sony Fanboy"; I chose Sony over Sega for very logical and sensible reasons. I chose to fuck off the X-Box because it's a Microsoft product, and I doubted it'd run for ten minutes straight. Turns out that prophecy came true for many gamers. I suppose it all comes down to breeding; Sega and Nintendo are Gaming Companies. Sony did a good job of founding itself. Microsoft is still that shitty company everyone hates. Why would I buy from them if I can find a realistic alternative? I use windows because 90% of the planet is built to handle Windows, but when it comes to Consoles I can pick what I want... and I'll pick what's built by a company you can rely on.

 

[Fools Paradise]

I have both the 360 and PS3, both are great. I have had the 360 for 3 years and only temporarily rrod when I do dumb things like lifting it while there is a game going. The PS3 is a dust magnet but other than that no complaints in the 2 months I have had it, I too never lose wifi but then by some stroke of luck I seem to have the most stable voyager router on the planet. (Went back to her after home hub #2 set itself on fire).
Main complaint is that I only have 6 PS3 games but that's mainly because I got everything on the 360 but I'm sure I'll build up the collection as new releases come out. I am also really really looking forward to Playstation home.
The reason I am buying new duel system releases on the PS3 is because having to pay for xbox live really annoys me as does the points system - I have a maestro card and the lovely people at Microsoft do not recognize it's existence. Sony however, does. I refuse to spend £15/$30 on a points card when all I want is a £2/$4 extra and don't get me started on delivery charges. With Network I can just pay for what I want and multiplay for free.

 

[Dark Shroud]

I've only read a little bit of this thread. But I have to say that motion controls are not new to controllers, Nintendo did not create this. I had a joy stick for my Sega Genesis that was motion controlled. And there was no way in hell that Sony could have put together a working Sixaxis in the time between unveiling of it and Nintendo's Wii Remote. Sony just kept foolishly quit about it instead of leaking it the day the Wii Remote was unveiled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVHGvGAm5o&eurl=%20watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOBtMMWteA

 

[tiredinnuendo]

I've only read a little bit of this thread. But I have to say that motion controls are not new to controllers, Nintendo did not create this. I had a joy stick for my Sega Genesis that was motion controlled. And there was no way in hell that Sony could have put together a working Sixaxis in the time between unveiling of it and Nintendo's Wii Remote. Sony just kept foolishly quit about it instead of leaking it the day the Wii Remote was unveiled.

Genesis? Go further back.

We called it the Power Glove, and it sucked then too.

- J

 

[Jumplion]

Both systems have merits, as does the Wii. We actually have a generation where we have three healthy consoles on the market, and that's something we should all be happy about.

But you can't be, because you're young and still live at home and your dad won't buy you both systems and you have to pick a "best".

- J

Just for the record, i buy my own games and consoles with my own money with planning, saving, working, and bar mitzvah money ;P

But i'm not sure if this count's as "motion sensing control" but the Eyetoy for the PS2 came out WAAAYY before the Wii's controller. Just like to throw that in there because i'm sure everyone forgot about that.

 

[blacknar ragmane]

there's not hate for sony, but the fans of sony. to me, attaching yourself to a brand marks you as very stupid. it's games, not corporations.

 

[superpope89]

The PS3 is great except for the fact that Sony really dropped the ball on exclusive titles, one of the things that made the PS2 so great in spite of inferior hardware. Sony seems to have switched gears from great software/ok hardware to great hardware/ok software. The PS3 has many useful functions aside from games, too bad thats its primary function. MGS4 is a lifeboat adrift in a sea of mediocrity, but it alone cannot make up for all the unspectacular exclusive titles.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

But i'm not sure if this count's as "motion sensing control" but the Eyetoy for the PS2 came out WAAAYY before the Wii's controller. Just like to throw that in there because i'm sure everyone forgot about that.

Dude.

Power. Glove. 1980's.

It was basically Sixaxis 1.0, and it was terrible then. Go watch The Wizard.

Wait.... scratch that. Don't watch The Wizard ever.

- J

 

[mGoLos]

I own both systems and play on them both, but the big difference is that I trust my ps3 while I usually give my 360 time to cool down every two-three hours.

 

[Jumplion]

But i'm not sure if this count's as "motion sensing control" but the Eyetoy for the PS2 came out WAAAYY before the Wii's controller. Just like to throw that in there because i'm sure everyone forgot about that.

Dude.

Power. Glove. 1980's.

It was basically Sixaxis 1.0, and it was terrible then. Go watch The Wizard.

Wait.... scratch that. Don't watch The Wizard ever.

- J

I know, i know, i'm just sayin'.

 

[squirrelman42]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit

I think that's a good summary of what's wrong with Sony. Also, they used to be on top of the console market and just tell people the way they're doing things. The fanboys don't see it but it really turns off swing customers like myself. I don't want the super hi-def experience and have to pay $500 just for the system (600 at release). I don't want a Blu-ray player. I don't want shiny. I want affordable well-made games.

 

[Jumplion]

I am going to go out on a limb here and think that Sony is going the way of Sega in the 90's and Atari in the 80's

You're not going out on a limb, you're going out as a quadruple amputee with down syndrome (no offense intended).

I'm not even sure how to address this, it's a pretty absurd assumption. Just because you don't want Blu-ray yet or whatever doesn't mean that Sony will just all of a sudden die out, infact the opposite is most likely going to happen because of the decision to make the PS3 a blu-ray player. It may take a while, hell it took a while for HD DVD to catch on (i'm not sure i even have an HD DVD player), but eventually blu-ray will be more successful. The same thing happend with VHS and DVDs and DVDs and HD DVDs.

 

[JDLY]

But you can't be, because you're young and still live at home and your dad won't buy you both systems and you have to pick a "best".

I'm 15 but I have a job and enough money to buy the Wii and the Xbox360 and about 20 games for both and 10 more for the PS3.

Plus, I'm obviously going to buy a new PS2 when mine DOES die, because I can play PSX / PS2 games on it but not the PS3.

If you had the right kind of PS3 you could.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit

I think that's a good summary of what's wrong with Sony.

Thats just some idiot who is taking all the little things and blowing them up 100-fold.
If sony hated people so much why wouldn't they make a system that crashed as much as the Xbox360.

The XMB still can't be accessed in game

It can with the latest update (version 4.21). I don't know where you live so I don't know if you have this update yet or when you will get it if you don't.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

But you can't be, because you're young and still live at home and your dad won't buy you both systems and you have to pick a "best".

I'm 15 but I have a job and enough money to buy the Wii and the Xbox360 and about 20 games for both and 10 more for the PS3.

It bothers me that more people weren't astounded by my amazing clairvoyance at being able to predict that all the really heavy proponents on either side of this "war" still lived with their parents.

Almost like they all thought it was fairly obvious.

Snide comments aside, you're missing the meat of my point, which is to take off your blinders. You're letting your precious feelings get hurt because I called you out on being a toddler and not looking at the big picture here. Sony is not altruistic, they're in this for the money just like everyone else. And they, just like Microsoft and Nintendo, have made some really, really funny mistakes. This war actually has people defending these companies when they are clearly in the wrong.

We had a console war back in my day too, but even the strongest Nintendo supporters didn't try to pretend that the Powerglove was actually awesome. Even the biggest Sega geeks were able to admit that Starfox rocked.

Kids today can't seem to surmount these things. Some XBox titles really do rock, the Wii really is a fucking blast, and the PS3 really is a good and stable platform with a decent lineup coming down the pipe. Having three good consoles out is *good* for gamers, and for the market. Much like having Guitar Hero and Rock Band really compete with each other will give us some awesome music games pretty soon. If any one system really was top dog with no competition, there would be no reason for that system to try all that hard, now would there?

- J

 

[Jumplion]

Blech, ignore this comment, i'm not even sure what i said.

But this thread isn't defending anything, i'm just asking why all the hate for Sony as it seems that alot of the "kids" you mentioned are going around saying crap about Sony just for this and that.

REally, all consoles are equals, but there's always going to be someone who tries to defend their company.

 

[JDLY]

But you can't be, because you're young and still live at home and your dad won't buy you both systems and you have to pick a "best".

I'm 15 but I have a job and enough money to buy the Wii and the Xbox360 and about 20 games for both and 10 more for the PS3.

It bothers me that more people weren't astounded by my amazing clairvoyance at being able to predict that all the really heavy proponents on either side of this "war" still lived with their parents.

Almost like they all thought it was fairly obvious.

Snide comments aside, you're missing the meat of my point, which is to take off your blinders. You're letting your precious feelings get hurt because I called you out on being a toddler and not looking at the big picture here. Sony is not altruistic, they're in this for the money just like everyone else. And they, just like Microsoft and Nintendo, have made some really, really funny mistakes. This war actually has people defending these companies when they are clearly in the wrong.

We had a console war back in my day too, but even the strongest Nintendo supporters didn't try to pretend that the Powerglove was actually awesome. Even the biggest Sega geeks were able to admit that Starfox rocked.

Kids today can't seem to surmount these things. Some XBox titles really do rock, the Wii really is a fucking blast, and the PS3 really is a good and stable platform with a decent lineup coming down the pipe. Having three good consoles out is *good* for gamers, and for the market. Much like having Guitar Hero and Rock Band really compete with each other will give us some awesome music games pretty soon. If any one system really was top dog with no competition, there would be no reason for that system to try all that hard, now would there?

- J

While I am a kid. I actually agree with you. I just don't like it that when people find out I'm fifteen they automaticly think I'm a cheap little bastard with no money and the only reason I like the PS3 is because it's the only one I can afford.

I know the Xbox360 is actually a good system overall (Gears of War was SWEET!) but I've just grown not to trust it as much as the Sony systems because even my original PS1 still works fine if I decide to see what happens if I turn it on. Yet every Xbox360 I've ever been near has crapped out at least once.

I know everyone is in it for the money. Everybody wants to be rich.

I actually thank the Xbox and Wii (the Wii is really fun to) and every other console that came before the PS3 because if they never existed then every console today would suck compared to what they are now.

It is from the past we improve on.

I know we are lucky to have 3 good if not great consoles to choose from.
I just happen to prefer the PS3 for my own reasons.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

See, that there is what we need more of. I take my hat of to you. Or I would, if I didn't look stupid in hats.

Now we need to take it one step further. Two, actually. We need the following:

1) When I point out that Sony/MS/Nintendo did x thing that was stupid, I shouldn't have to put up with ten people telling me that I'm overblowing it and their system is awesome. Big companies making mistakes is something we should all chuckle about.
2) When I point out that Sony/MS/Nintendo did x thing that was stupid, I shouldn't have to put up with ten people from the other side of the fence telling me that their console makers would never do that. Almost every mistake that one company is making now, the others have made in the past. Glass houses, and all that.

- J

 

[shatnershaman]

3. Connecting the PSP to PS3 is very, very fast. Connect the 2 using a USB cable and go to Remote Play under options in PS3, CLICK REGISTER DEVICE, and literally about 5 seconds later it's good to go. Not hard or slow at all.

Thats the problem,Registering doesn't work (and this was me bring it to my cousins so it could access highspeed) I'm not even going to both any more in case it tries to brick it because its hacked.

We could do a "Why so much hate for Nintendo" and a "Why so much hate for Microsoft" or even "Why so much hate for Company X" its almost impossible to name a company that people don't hate someway (exceptions are charity organizations etc.)