Why the love for Diablo 3?

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evilneko

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It's looking like it brings back some of the dark, gritty atmosphere of the original Diablo, which makes it miles better than D2. I really hated D2's bright cartoony style. I also rather hated that it was a mindless clickfest.

Unfortunately due to the lack of offline play I won't be buying D3.
 

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I feel the Diablo series is one of the less talked about gems in gaming. The first two were perfect for what they were. It was basically hours and hours of doing the same shit over and over. But it was f*cking fun!

The loot system is definitely one of the best. Another factor about Diablo that I think kicks ass is all the mini boss/boss fights.

The atmosphere in Diablo 3 looks amazing. It's one of the best RPG series ever, imo. However, I'm not getting it because my laptop wouldn't handle it. I'd almost buy a new PC just to play this, but plenty of other games are coming out that I want anyway.
 

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It's cool, man. Just do what I'm going to do and buy Torchlight 2. More Diablo than Diablo, and at a cheaper price.
 

Joccaren

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Why do some people look forward to the new instalments of CoD? Why are people interested in games that are obvious clones of WoW?
Really, there are two reasons.
1. Marketing. If it does its job right, you will think the game is new and innovative, even if its not, or not care about that at all.
2. They want that same gameplay, revamped for modern graphics. How many times have you heard massive complaints that 'They changed things too much' and 'Its not loyal to the original'. ME2 had some of this happen when it came out, FO3 has had this, DA2 has had this, changing formulas does not always work. A lot of the time people want the same gameplay, maybe with some slight tweaks due to problems with it originally, but nothing majorly different.

I'm sure D3 will have those minor tweaks to gameplay, it will have a new story that fans will follow, it will have upped graphics, but it will still play very similar to the originals, the way fans want it too. Blizzard is catering to its fans here, the people it knows are going to buy the game. Changing things for broader appeal is something that we on these forums constantly criticise companies for, many are happy to see that their favourite game has not had this fate.
 

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I don't love Diablo all that much, but I think the leap from D1 to D2 was pretty much like this one: the game changed a lot, but it still "felt" the same game. And that is exactly how sequels should be made, IMO. So if D3 still feels like D2 despite the obvious changes (I can see them from where I'm standing, don't know about you), then good for its players. I wish more games would find a balance between evolving and remaining true to their origins like that. Of course, the game isn't out yet, so we can only speculate how much it really evolved and how much it kept its spirit.

Besides, I guess many people just want to keep playing Diablo 2 with different characters, in different places, while enjoying a different story. And that's just fine.

EDIT: OF course, I'm only talking about the game itself. The real problem is the apparently draconian DRM it has in place. THAT sounds like a mood-killer to me.
 

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If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.
 

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9/10 comments I read about the game are negative. As if people are getting paid to turn their nose up at the game. IT'S A GAME! If you don't like it then don't buy it! It's as simple as that! I have fond memories playing the prequels to this game, I love everything Blizzard makes, and so naturally I'm probably going to like this too. Like music, not every genre :)read, game) is in your taste buds. And even though YOU don't like it and come to every 'logical' conclusion on the planet as to why it isn't a good game, other people still enjoy it / may enjoy it. So next time you have an inkling to say "This game sucks. Why is everyone thinking it's good? Jeez! I'm the only one right in the whole damn world!" then let me say this, go be right somewhere else.

:p

Alandoril said:
If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.
The fact that you say 'Marketing' means you don't like Blizzard games. Blizzard games are polished to the Nth degree. Even a simplistic game from them is high on fun and content. I've been playing Blizzard games since Blackthorne and The Lost Vikings. They've never failed to disappoint. So the answer really isn't about marketing at all... It's about trust.
 

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Alandoril said:
If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.
This is a great springboard. However, I think this outlook is amplified by the outrage of some Diablo fans saying that the online requirement is a deal breaker for them and now people swear up and down that those fans (like myself) are going to miss out on some "epic" game for some petty reason. I think some people are showing massive love to try and make some point to those that are claiming they wont buy because of the AH/Online.

Truth be told, the online requirement is a deal breaker for me. This game won't be anymore epic than Diablo 2. It isn't bringing much fresh to the table. Two major downsides (AH/Online) and not much the way of upsides doesn't sound like anything to get excited about personally.
 

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Mechanics.
The runes make a HUGE variety of interesting spell effects such as Raining Frogs, throwing corpses, Mirror Images that deal damage, Perpetual Time Slow, magma lasers, a transformation spell making a mage pure energy and death, life leaching spells, a variety of summons, sentry turrets with homing missiles, fan of knives with grenades, etc.
There is hundreds of abilities and a much more fun way to experiment around with builds.

I'm in Diablo, and most RPGs for that matter, for the theory and execution.
I want to examine the tools they give me and build a character with ridiculous synergy, fun skills, and then try to overcome challenges with them.
Normal, Nightmare, Hell, and Inferno.

I don't know how D3 has "Gained nothing" in your eyes with other additions like more interesting and diverse resources among classes, Diverse boss mechanics that are more than increased health and damage, better looting mechanics, more polished PvP that also solves griefing issues, more story, more enemies, more team dynamics in game play, this one is subjective but I consider the real Auactions a bonus, professions adding enchantments, crafting, and more variety of gems.

I'm sure I'm still missing some points, but that's all here or there, what we want is Diablo, numberless, a third time, with the same increase in quality that we got last time.
 

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Blizzard remakes the same small handful of games with a visual facelift once every 8-10 years. They spend the vast majority of their time and money on the production values, polishing every inch of their products to a mirror shine - and that's what attracts people to their games. If you're looking for anything resembling innovation or creativity, you won't find it at Blizzard.
 

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Hammeroj said:
Jewrean said:
9/10 comments I read about the game are negative. As if people are getting paid to turn their nose up at the game. IT'S A GAME! If you don't like it then don't buy it! It's as simple as that! I have fond memories playing the prequels to this game, I love everything Blizzard makes, and so naturally I'm probably going to like this too. Like music, not every genre :)read, game) is in your taste buds. And even though YOU don't like it and come to every 'logical' conclusion on the planet as to why it isn't a good game, other people still enjoy it / may enjoy it. So next time you have an inkling to say "This game sucks. Why is everyone thinking it's good? Jeez! I'm the only one right in the whole damn world!" then let me say this, go be right somewhere else.
"This movie is shite." It's just a movie!
"This book is written poorly." It's just a book!

Listen, dude, this is a forum where people share their opinions. You like it, fine, but your "suggestion" goes both ways. If you like it, stop defending it on the forums go like it somewhere else.
Like I said, 9/10 comments are all insulting the game. This isn't news. And it is also counter-productive. Most of the people I've encountered that have the opinion that a game will suck are usually trolling.
 

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Hammeroj said:
Jewrean said:
Let me get this straight. If people were jerking off all over the game, you'd be all for it?

Or do you have a problem with people talking about it at all?

You think they're trolling because obviously you have no idea what trolling is. Having an opinion different than yours is not trolling...
I didn't read past this point due to the large number of assumptions you've made. My motto is simple, it hasn't come out yet. Don't judge a book by it's cover and don't judge a game until you've played it. I'm looking forward to playing it based on the previous games, however, that is different in saying it will 100% be the best game ever. So in a way, I don't appreciate anything said about the game unless it's from a developer or someone who has played the product.

As for the trolling point, I'm referring to instances I've had previously with people in forums / comment sections talking about the game. Of the people I've responded to who had something negative to say about it it was clear that most of them were simply trying to invoke a response for their own self-satisfaction. Not only this, but many people are simply jumping on the bandwagon to insult the game before it's out like sheep. This happens with many popular games.

The only productive thing to do is to report new information about the game or link to official information about the product that has already been made available. Hearing the opinion of some faceless account denouncing (/or appreciating) the game before it is even out is ludicrous.

FieryTrainwreck said:
Blizzard remakes the same small handful of games with a visual facelift once every 8-10 years. They spend the vast majority of their time and money on the production values, polishing every inch of their products to a mirror shine - and that's what attracts people to their games. If you're looking for anything resembling innovation or creativity, you won't find it at Blizzard.
News flash. Almost every AAA game company (or any company for that matter) does that. But instead of 8-10 years they do it more frequently. If you want creativity then might I suggest most indie games as they are not as concerned about the consumer which is why they are not a AAA game company yet. If you want to blame anyone for Blizzards apparent lack of 'creativity' then I suggest blaming yourself, me, and every other consumer because Blizzard (and other companies) are only trying to give the masses what they want.
 

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I don't care for Diablo 3 at all myself. I don't care for pretty much everything about it. The gameplay, the new skill system, the art direction, the ass raping of the story. You name it!
 

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Not gonna lie, I was looking forward to this also[footnote]back in 2009[/footnote] but as more information came out the more I felt a hate boiling inside me, what´s with blizzard trying to make all recent games so fucking broad and easy to use? You got enough cash as it is don't you? ._.
 

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the same reason any sequel (halo, skyrim, GoW, etc) gets big news. its the name recognition and projected mass sales the product will enjoy.
 

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Elijah Newton said:
Why the love for Diablo 3?
'Cause it looks like fun.

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Bah, if I leave a short, snarky-ass post like that, it'll get nailed. Fine, fine.

Diablo 2 captured my interest for much longer than it deserved because the community and the random dungeons/loot tables made for a dynamic and fun experience.

Now I get a chance to re-live that moment of early high school, but with shinier everything and even a physics engine!

But yeah, seriously - 'cause it looks like fun.
 

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bahumat42 said:
Savagezion said:
Alandoril said:
If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.
This is a great springboard. However, I think this outlook is amplified by the outrage of some Diablo fans saying that the online requirement is a deal breaker for them and now people swear up and down that those fans (like myself) are going to miss out on some "epic" game for some petty reason. I think some people are showing massive love to try and make some point to those that are claiming they wont buy because of the AH/Online.

Truth be told, the online requirement is a deal breaker for me. This game won't be anymore epic than Diablo 2. It isn't bringing much fresh to the table. Two major downsides (AH/Online) and not much the way of upsides doesn't sound like anything to get excited about personally.
How can you argue the auction house is bad?
just don't use the thing if you dont like it. That doesnt count against the game, like at all. You can keep your anti online stance though because there are plenty of qqers like yourself who refuse to get good internet ^^

Oh and id suggest everyone kicking and screaming against using the internet brace themselves, because this is the way everything will be going.
PvP/PK system. AH that lets you buy power with your credit card. These are 2 elements of gameplay that should never mix. Ever.

Diablo 3 mixed them.

Even if you don't care about PvP (Blizzard sure as hell doesn't), Diablo has always been a "kill shit, get loot" game. If I can "beat" Diablo 3 by buying the absolute best gear within 15 minutes and probably 90$.... what's the bloody point in playing at all?
 

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bahumat42 said:
Aeonknight said:
bahumat42 said:
Savagezion said:
Alandoril said:
If Diablo 3 was being made by any company other than Blizzard people would be insulting it for exactly the reasons the op states.

Most people have been blinded by Blizzard's flurry of marketing.
This is a great springboard. However, I think this outlook is amplified by the outrage of some Diablo fans saying that the online requirement is a deal breaker for them and now people swear up and down that those fans (like myself) are going to miss out on some "epic" game for some petty reason. I think some people are showing massive love to try and make some point to those that are claiming they wont buy because of the AH/Online.

Truth be told, the online requirement is a deal breaker for me. This game won't be anymore epic than Diablo 2. It isn't bringing much fresh to the table. Two major downsides (AH/Online) and not much the way of upsides doesn't sound like anything to get excited about personally.
How can you argue the auction house is bad?
just don't use the thing if you dont like it. That doesnt count against the game, like at all. You can keep your anti online stance though because there are plenty of qqers like yourself who refuse to get good internet ^^

Oh and id suggest everyone kicking and screaming against using the internet brace themselves, because this is the way everything will be going.
PvP/PK system. AH that lets you buy power with your credit card. These are 2 elements of gameplay that should never mix. Ever.

Diablo 3 mixed them.

Even if you don't care about PvP (Blizzard sure as hell doesn't), Diablo has always been a "kill shit, get loot" game. If I can "beat" Diablo 3 by buying the absolute best gear within 15 minutes and probably 90$.... what's the bloody point in playing at all?
Well the point is up to whoever spends their real money on such things, if its not your kind of thing, then don't do it, its ENTIRELY optional, although i hope to get some kickass stuff to sell on there making my gametime get me money.

And competitive pvp always requires the best gear, instead of under the table deals like in WoW now they made a legal way of doing it. My careface is not on.
Wow, you really bought into this AH scam didn't you?

Here's what's gonna happen.
RMT sweatshops are going to own Diablo's economy. It's what they do, and they've gotten pretty good at it. You by yourself can't compete with warehouses of under-nourished people playing this game 24/7. Once you get a good drop, they've gotten hundreds of that same drop. They then proceed to undercut you to the point where the value of the item becomes worthless, but they'll have a huge stock and a monopoly on the sale of that item. Blizzard? They don't give a shit, they're taking their cut from each/every transaction. If RMT jump on this opportunity (since Blizzard endores their methods and made it "legal",) you won't make a dime playing Diablo 3.

Now... let's say I'm playing D3 without using the AH. I'm obviously using sub-optimal gear because it takes time to find the stuff, or I can just lvl and find a new range of gear that's better. Anywho, PK 12 yr old griefer joins my game and decides to absolutely destroy me and/or my friends because he paid 25 bucks for ZaUberSwordz!

Rinse and repeat that scenario about 200 times, and eventually anyone wanting to actually enjoy Diablo 3 will say "fuck it" and give in to using the AH, just to fight back. You can't get away from the game's central concept without it being an uphill battle.
Either that, or password lock my game so I can play my online game by myself (why weren't we given an offline mode again? Oh right, bottlenecking towards AH so Blizzard can money whore some more.)

If that sounds fun to you, more power to you. I'm not about to tell you what to spend your money on, I'm just listing why I'll personally be avoiding the game like the plague. Diablo is dead.
 

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So they removed the PK system... well that changes things a bit. Still don't like the idea of buying power in a game with PvP... but at least it doesn't have a negative impact on my own playing experience.

Other points still stand, but it definately makes me rethink my stance on it a little. Damn you Hammeroj... lol.

But that is the point of forums.