Wii is a Virus: Epic Boss

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I've seen three-five comments in this whole thread that suggest a poster might have actually read the article before commenting.

THE HEADLINE IS MISLEADING; READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE POSTING.
 

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gregpolk said:
As for you thinking his article isn't a touch bitter, he's complaining that a games console is going to destroy the creativity of the games industry because god forbid it can't run a next gen game engine (in particular HIS next gen game engine.

Maybe I missed this, but his response wasn't that it kills the game industry, but that the focus of his business plan doesn't involve scaling back; however, other companies are scaling back (ala red steel). It's not the company focii.

Is it in the article, or did you make up the part about "destroying the creativity of the games industry?" Source!
 

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Capps praised Nintendo for its ability to turn a profit and reach a wide audience but said the company was not helping move the field forward tech-wise. "As an investor you love 'em, but as a next-gen console technology maker, they don't run UE3 and they can't. ... we go forward, not back."
I can't fault Mike Capps there. It's true, the Wii is technologically inferior from a processing standpoint. Everybody knows that, so what?

His comments also come on the heels of a recent New York Times article titled, "New Wii finds a big (but stingy) audience," showing that Wii owners, as casual gamers, tend to buy less software for the system because they are not driven by a need to play the newest games.
Yup, right again. I'm a happy Wii owner who can't afford the time to gorge myself on every new game out there. If I had a 360, I'd own only about 4 games. I have a Wii and only want (and/or already own) about 6 games that it has to offer. My destructive purchasing habits will be the bane of the gaming industry! ;-)

I'll tell ya what's gimmicky... it's next-gen graphics, that's what.
 

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Echolocating said:
I'll tell ya what's gimmicky... it's next-gen graphics, that's what.
Too true, too true. Just goes to show that... no-one reads my posts... but I agree with you regardless.

- A procrastinator
 

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There is a big difference between whats good and what sells.

Right place, right time, right price.... The Wii won the first strike, but it will fade quickly.
There will more than likely be multiple versions of the Wii release before the PS3's EOL.

The PS3 is the console of the future, and that's when everyone will buy it.
 

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stompy said:
Just goes to show that... no-one reads my posts... but I agree with you regardless.

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Funny enough, if you think about it, the greatest pull-back in the industry (IMO of course) is the dev's obsession with graphics, which mean they spend less time on story, gameplay, or what-have-you. So, this sounds hypocritical to me.
Oops, I kind of repeated what you said... er, I mean summarized it. Yes, I summarized it and forgot to give you credit. I'll do better next time! Promise. ;-)

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Kemmler0 said:
Right place, right time, right price.... The Wii won the first strike, but it will fade quickly.
There will more than likely be multiple versions of the Wii release before the PS3's EOL.
Like a black one, followed by other colors? ;-)
 

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L.B. Jeffries said:
Backwards for who? The best-selling online game of all time cracks in at 10 million (WoW), which is 'Act of God' class sales figures. Although awesome by video game standards, that's hardly as massive an appeal as movies or television. The Wii Fit is being demonstrated on freaking Oprah. New gamer, meet old gamer.

The Wii chose a weaker processor and now numerous indie developers are able to keep making games for relatively cheap costs. A Wii game costs 2 million and 18 months to make (roughly). Other next-gen consoles come in at 25-50 million and three years to make (roughly). So when someone has a creative idea for a game, which system is it viable to take the risk for? Yeah, there is a lot of shovelware, but there's also a ton of really innovative stuff coming out.

With a 50 millionish price tag on every Unreal 3 game coming out, no one is going to make a game unless it conforms to every generic standard that already exists so they know they'll make their money back. If anyone is moving the industry backwards and into the same old draconian crap they're always making, it's Epic.
Oprah speaks about Wii Fit? That's not a surprise, since the marketing machine and goal of Nintendo. Still, Wii Fit has very little to nothing to do with gaming, and I truly pity Nintendo for trying to sell that tablet (which they do, but hell, a lot of people buy shit).
Now is Oprah a seal of quality?

How much innovative stuff is actually appearing on the Wii?
Especially when compared to XBLA or PSN?

I agree, however, that the race to more powerful technology is killing the industry. But maybe that's because the tools aren't providing enough high quality content at faster rates?
It's possible that with more efficient tools, production costs could be cut a tad (not much I'm afraid, though).

It's funny how we're entering a new era of Neo Geos, which only the richest will be able to acquire. The number of games they need to sell to return a profit is extremely high, considering the budgets.
The Wii problem? It detracts buyers from the more powerful consoles, reduces the sales of said consoles, and thus reduces the sales of the games on such consoles. Ergo Epic: "the Wii is not for us" or something along those lines.



JakubK666 said:
L.B. Jeffries said:
The Wii chose a weaker processor and now numerous indie 3rd party developers are able to keep making games shovelware for relatively cheap no costs.
That's more like it.

Nintendo needs to bring back it's Seal of Quality.
The Seal? It quickly became a joke. At best, it would mean your game was roughly bug free - and that's even disputable (NES in sight). It hardly guaranteed a quality of games.



j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Junaid Alam said:
His comments also come on the heels of a recent New York Times article titled, "New Wii finds a big (but stingy) audience," showing that Wii owners, as casual gamers, tend to buy less software for the system because they are not driven by a need to play the newest games.
Or it could be the fact that there's not a huge amount of actually good games on the Wii. Metroid Prime, Mario, Zelda...?
Both sir, in my opinion. The type of audience the Wii reaches, combined to its catalogue, easily explain the situation.

The Wii is not a bad console, far from it. Nintendo put a hell of money and completely built the appeal out of the blue, but now it's really getting implanted. It's not generating legions of new avid gamers, but it's putting a video console in places where you wouldn't expect it with the 360 or PS3. It also has easy controls. Not the best by far, but they do their job more or less well.
In that sense, it's indeed a sort of virus, but it's more a therapy, a necessary step part of a war to democratize games.

Still, it's largely gimmicky.

As for UT3, I don't understand the appeal. For me, it's doesn't seem to have any flavour.


xMacx said:
I've seen three-five comments in this whole thread that suggest a poster might have actually read the article before commenting.

THE HEADLINE IS MISLEADING; READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE POSTING.
This is not the first time it happens here.
I'd like the summaries use less spin, unless the magazine should be called The Sensasionalist?
P. 4 of the article, Epic guy did criticize the Wii, but it's integrated to a whole article that describes what Epic is looking for, so you get it as Wii is not part of their plan.
But it doesn't mean it's correct to label the Wii as something going backwards. It after all did positive things.
 

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There was a great quote in the interview over on IGN (talking about GoW2)
At the bottom of page 2:
"Our voice actors were crying in the studio..."
A line like that makes me immediately think that the dialogue is absolutely terrible and they don't really want to read the lines, but there's somebody with a gun pointed at their back.
 

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Know what I was JUST playing before I got here? "Samurai Showdown Anthology"
Know what I'm going to be playing the shit out of come January? "Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom"... well... "MAG", too, but alot of "TvC"

I'd say I get much more use playing old Virtual Console software than I do out of almost anything the Unreal Engine has brought to me this gen, good games as they be, it doesn't bother me in the least that the Wii is using its lacking processor, not every game is bad simply because it's not high-end. Moving the industry backwards, though?
Capps is the definition of butthurt right now.
 

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I've been a huge fan of Epic ever since Unreal Tournament first burned into my old monitor, but over the last few years, they've been showing the world just how gigantic their egos are, instead of doing what everyone else is doing (with the except of Activision), which is merely shutting the fuck up and making games.

Besides, they can't really talk about being "backwards" considering UT3 on PC looks like a shitty console port anyways.

But they fell with the new generation crowd of "MORE POLYGONS = MORE GAME" as opposed to, well, actual gameplay.

And don't even get me started on what everyone already knows as far as dumbing down games to appeal to a retarded broader audience.