Wii U Releases Will "Dramatically Increase"

[Insertclevername]

I'm have faith. While I still plan on getting MH3, I'am a little disappointed by the library thus far. Here's hoping for the Big "N" to pull through.

 

[ResonanceSD]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/7128-Lego-City-Undercover


Is the kick in the ass nintendo needs to hear from everyone. But their fans who gobble up every recycled title and IP will prevent Nintendo actually innovating past their gimmick-based gameplay.

 

[velcthulhu]

If they released a decent game for it half as often as they issue these statements that it's totally awesome and will have some games soon... I would have bought one by now.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Yeah, I just don't see it.

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Since the Original version of this was made a few months ago, it felt as if the WiiU has only been losing games as 3rd parties lost confidence in the platform (Rayman: Legends going Multiplatform, Aliens: Colonial Marines falling away etc.).

The fact that he concentrates so much on the "3DS" in this statement, should tell everyone what a sad state their console is in till at least end of this year, at which point its competitors will be out already and they haven't even announced all upcoming games yet either.

Your missing a couple of WiiU Games though: Yarn Yoshi, Shin Megami Tensai meets Fire Emblem, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD Remake, Monolith Studio's X, Pokemon Rumble U, The Next Legend of Zelda, The Next Mario Platformer, The Next Mario Kart. Plus, the multiple Indie games on the WiiU, as well as the launch of the Virtual Console soon, will make up for what you say is the loss of 3rd Parties.

Also, Watch_Dogs is coming out for the WiiU, the same time all the other ones do, as well as Assasin's Creed 4. And what of Splinter Cell, Deus Ex, Disney's Infinity, and (Heavily rumored) Bungie's Destiny?

 

[Splitzi]

I'm getting tired of WiiU owners telling everyone, "Just wait, they'll give us games...eventually. It'll be great!" I don't understand how Nintendo released the system with almost no games on release! I can only imagine how popular the thing would have been if they had just waited a bit and tried to speed up first party development. From where I stand, it's too late for the WiiU, they missed their chance. Why would anyone who hasn't purchased a unit already buy one with the new consoles from Microsoft and Sony just months away? They missed their window, the games needed to come out near release, and now it seems like they are just too late.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

I'm getting tired of WiiU owners telling everyone, "Just wait, they'll give us games...eventually. It'll be great!" I don't understand how Nintendo released the system with almost no games on release! I can only imagine how popular the thing would have been if they had just waited a bit and tried to speed up first party development. From where I stand, it's too late for the WiiU, they missed their chance. Why would anyone who hasn't purchased a unit already buy one with the new consoles from Microsoft and Sony just months away? They missed their window, the games needed to come out near release, and now it seems like they are just too late.

While I agree that Nintendo should not have banked on 3rd Party support (Especially since 3rd Parties hate Nintendo and Nintendo isn't the best with them anyways), I don't think it's too late for the WiiU. Think about it, the PS4 and the Nextbox are gonna be released with a handful of games, but only a handful of them. The WiiU, by then, will definitely have a lot more games (The ones it has now, plus a lot of Exclusives). On top of that, many of the games the PS4 and Nextbox are gonna launch with will also be on the WiiU (Assasins Creed 4, Watch_Dogs, Call of Duty, and Highly Probably Destiny). Nintendo can very easily steal sales from the PS4 and Nextbox Launch if it plays it's cards right, and the fact that Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Earth Bound, the Next Mario Kart and the Next Mario Platformer will be out by the PS4/Nextbox launch, I am safe to say they have. Although I guess time will truly tell.

 

[Diddy_Mao]

Truth is that Nintendo pissed away a childhood full of good will very quickly with the N64 and Wii.
And I'll be damned if I'm dropping another couple hundred on another underdeveloped console.

The Wii sold like gangbusters because it made up for losing it's core audience by catering to casual gamers...which is fine. I don't think less of them for it.

The problem is that the casual market is still content to play carnival games and Wii sports and doesn't need a new toy to play with.

Short term gain is rarely preferable to long term sustainability.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

I already said it's a few months old, Star Wars 1313 for instance was recently cancelled.
That said, it does specifically state that it is a list for releases in *2013* and it doesn't contain yearly rehashes/remakes and the likes for the sake of brevity.

That bolded Part, I think your wrong there. On the WiiU, it lists Game and Wario (A Continuation of the WarioWare series), Pikmin 3 (the 3rd Pikmin Game), and WiiU Fit (Wii Fit's 2nd game). Not only that, but it lists Forza 5, Amnesia 2, Cities in Motion 2, Europa Universailis IV, Sim City, Plants Vs. Zombies 2 (Which I'm pretty sure will not be a PC Exclusive), Sly Cooper, God Of War, Gears of War, Rome II, Wasteland 2 and Arma III, all of which are indeed sequels. 3D Mario Platformers, real Legend of Zelda's and Mario Karts are not a yearly thing either, so they should be included on the list as well. And Yoshi, we haven't seen a Yoshi game since 2006. How does Yarn Yoshi not count to be in the list? I would not know...

All I'm saying is that Chart is heavily biased against Nintendo, as well as outdated, so I wouldn't go around using it as the basis for the argument "The WiiU lacks games and will continue to lack them."

 

[RicoADF]

Nintendo needs to learn that they need to offer something other than Mario, Zelda etc. They need some new IPs, preferably mature ones. There's nothing on their platform other than Zombie U that interests me. More games like that would be good. Oh and drop the stupid U from games names, it sounds stupid.

I'm getting tired of WiiU owners telling everyone, "Just wait, they'll give us games...eventually. It'll be great!" I don't understand how Nintendo released the system with almost no games on release! I can only imagine how popular the thing would have been if they had just waited a bit and tried to speed up first party development. From where I stand, it's too late for the WiiU, they missed their chance. Why would anyone who hasn't purchased a unit already buy one with the new consoles from Microsoft and Sony just months away? They missed their window, the games needed to come out near release, and now it seems like they are just too late.

While I agree that Nintendo should not have banked on 3rd Party support (Especially since 3rd Parties hate Nintendo and Nintendo isn't the best with them anyways), I don't think it's too late for the WiiU. Think about it, the PS4 and the Nextbox are gonna be released with a handful of games, but only a handful of them. The WiiU, by then, will definitely have a lot more games (The ones it has now, plus a lot of Exclusives). On top of that, many of the games the PS4 and Nextbox are gonna launch with will also be on the WiiU (Assasins Creed 4, Watch_Dogs, Call of Duty, and Highly Probably Destiny). Nintendo can very easily steal sales from the PS4 and Nextbox Launch if it plays it's cards right, and the fact that Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Earth Bound, the Next Mario Kart and the Next Mario Platformer will be out by the PS4/Nextbox launch, I am safe to say they have. Although I guess time will truly tell.

Your assuming that Mario and Zelda have any pull, as already stated if Nintendo want to increase sales they need other stuff. Fans of those games have already bought the system, or are waiting for said games, most others have no interest. Their all kids games, if Nintendo want to expand as they claim they need to offer stuff for adults.

 

[Kal-Adam]

Wow, I had forgotten about the Wii U entirely until I read the title. Doesn't that say it all?

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Your assuming that Mario and Zelda have any pull, as already stated if Nintendo want to increase sales they need other stuff. Fans of those games have already bought the system, or are waiting for said games, most others have no interest. Their all kids games, if Nintendo want to expand as they claim they need to offer stuff for adults.

Not necessarily true. The 3DS wasn't selling well before the Price Drop [http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/111264-nintendo-3ds-price-cut-nes], and Super Mario 3D Land. After the Price Drop, and when Super Mario 3D Land was released, 3DS Sales jumped by over 100% in Japan alone! [http://www.edge-online.com/news/mario-3d-land-boosts-3ds-sales-japan/] A lot of people think that most Nintendo Die Hards buy the console at launch, but that is not necessarily the case, as 3D Land provides evidence that a lot of Nintendo Die Hards wait for actual games to launch.

So what I am saying is, Mario and Zelda have a ton of pull. Will these Mario and Zelda games have pull though? We'll have to see...

Also, Mario and Zelda are not Kiddie Games, they're everyone can play games. Unlike Kinectamals, Mario does not try to speak calmly and slow, Zelda does not use pretty colors to appeal to children. Both of these games get incredibly hard, and sometimes even complex, as they go on. Zelda has deep story lines and sometimes gruesome lore. To call those games kid games is to call Disney's work Kids Films.

 

[Terramax]

So you mean in the half of a year before the Wii U becomes technically obsolete and unable to handle the games developers are producing without 20x the optimisation and effort needed for the other consoles and PCs, they're going to release some games which aren't rehashes of PS3/360 games?

I bet one's a mario title

I'd be surprised if they don't announce a Mario Kart game soon.

 

[RicoADF]

Not necessarily true. The 3DS wasn't selling well before the Price Drop [http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/111264-nintendo-3ds-price-cut-nes], and Super Mario 3D Land. After the Price Drop, and when Super Mario 3D Land was released, 3DS Sales jumped by over 100% in Japan alone! [http://www.edge-online.com/news/mario-3d-land-boosts-3ds-sales-japan/] A lot of people think that most Nintendo Die Hards buy the console at launch, but that is not necessarily the case, as 3D Land provides evidence that a lot of Nintendo Die Hards wait for actual games to launch.

So what I am saying is, Mario and Zelda have a ton of pull. Will these Mario and Zelda games have pull though? We'll have to see...

Also, Mario and Zelda are not Kiddie Games, they're everyone can play games. Unlike Kinectamals, Mario does not try to speak calmly and slow, Zelda does not use pretty colors to appeal to children. Both of these games get incredibly hard, and sometimes even complex, as they go on. Zelda has deep story lines and sometimes gruesome lore. To call those games kid games is to call Disney's work Kids Films.

A price drop would help, and I did say that the fans either already got it OR are waiting for their game/s they want.
As for Disney, most of their work are aimed at kids but the whole family can enjoy, all good kids shows and movies are like this including games like Mario etc. I still watch an occassional Scooby doo and Thomas the tank engine as their proper kids shows, if a show can't be viewed by an adult its either ABC for very young kids or very bad kids shows IMO.

It wasn't meant as an insult to Nintendo since they do kids/family games well, but since they said that they want to broadern the Wii U to include mature games and challenge the PS4 and nextbox, well as I said their failing in that regard. And either way, they need some new IPs
, some games where Yatzee can't start a line with "another bloody" *insert game franchise name*

 

[Scribblesense]

So you mean in the half of a year before the Wii U becomes technically obsolete and unable to handle the games developers are producing without 20x the optimisation and effort needed for the other consoles and PCs, they're going to release some games which aren't rehashes of PS3/360 games?

I bet one's a mario title

They have a new 3D Mario and Mario Kart in the works, yes. I'd expect a Mario Party for Wii U in the near future too.

The limits of the Wii U won't be as detrimental to cross-platform development as we saw with the Wii, though. Most next-gen engines are incredibly scalable, so what runs on the PS4 should run on the Wii U (though it will no doubt be a pale imitation). And we aren't going to see developers abandon the 360 and PS3 until the PS4 and Nextbox have the install bases to justify it, so we'll still see the Wii U piggybacking on the success of Sony and MS.

Most third parties have games in the works for the Wii U - the only one to publicly turn its back on Nintendo is EA. Ubisoft, Activision, Square-Enix, WB Games, and more will likely make good ports for the Wii U in the future, if not exclusive titles.

The Wii U has 1G RAM (for games) to the PS4's 7GBs right? And it's the sucky sort of RAM (it already has less bandwidth than the PS3 and 360). Thats a pretty significant difference when we want enemies on screen and AI. Maybe if people are still making games for low end laptops. If the next Xbox has sucky specs then maybe we'll have a console generation more in the Wii U's range. The Wii U is way worse than the Wii in terms of percentage increase on RAM and I think it'll also be significantly slower than the other consoles are in comparison to how slow the Wii was, but I think when the numbers get bigger the difference matters a little less too


There will be a transition year, it took a while for the PS2 to stop releasing games, but on the other hand production of Xbox games immediately switched over to the new hardware, so you can expect pretty much all the big budget games (except for the ones that got delayed) to be releasing on the new platforms within the year. It was a very noticeable occurrence last time for a big game to be released on an old platform. (Stuff like Okami being the exceptions)

EDIT: Switched out 8GB for 7GB. For some reason I thought the system RAM was counted in the PS4's RAM total when it was.

The PS4's specs are beastly, especially when it comes to RAM.

There are a lot of "ifs" and "maybes" in the equation, but 7gb of RAM only matters if devs take advantage of every last inch of it. Like you said, the Nextbox could have much less RAM than the PS4, which would mean multiplatform releases would likely be tailored to that, which gives the Wii U a chance of seeing those releases as well.

All they need to do, performance-wise, is make the game playable. The Wii got every Modern Warfare game; I wouldn't count the Wii U out.

 

[BrotherRool]

The PS4's specs are beastly, especially when it comes to RAM.

There are a lot of "ifs" and "maybes" in the equation, but 7gb of RAM only matters if devs take advantage of every last inch of it. Like you said, the Nextbox could have much less RAM than the PS4, which would mean multiplatform releases would likely be tailored to that, which gives the Wii U a chance of seeing those releases as well.

All they need to do, performance-wise, is make the game playable. The Wii got every Modern Warfare game; I wouldn't count the Wii U out.

I forgot about that, it'll be interesting because the Wii version of CoD was definitely really sucky compared to the others, but with the diminishing returns on technology this might be where we get to see just how important that sort of thing is to people.

 

[AdamG3691]

...

raise your hand if your next gen console supports your current collection of games.

*nintendo (and possibly microsoft) raise their hands*

huh...


raise your hand if your console doesn't need a constant internet connection

*sony and nintendo raise their hands*

raise your hand if your console's online features are free

*only nintendo raises its hand*


people have been fortelling doom for nintendo since before the Ps1 or XBox were twinkles in their companies eyes, and guess what? nintendo have never yet had a catastrophic flop.

nintendo is the only console whose major flaw is "it's too gimmicky", when the other consoles either don't support their back-catalogs, require always online, and both will require a subscription fee for their online features, so it has an advantage being the console with the least amount of bullshit

honestly, most of the doomsaying seems to be "because it's nintendo" and "oh god it doesn't have gray generic FPS #413"

(then again, I'm the sort of person who would rather have fun gameplay than a slightly higher res shadow on boulder #612, so maybe I'm biased towards the console that isn't identical to the ones before it)