Are you suggesting that popularity on YouTube is indicative of a thing?s objective popularity hence its legitimacy? That YouTube clicks will inexorably spill over into primetime televised viewership and the mass appeal and following of gamers and non-gamers alike? Because I will staunchly disagree. They already show some competitions on ESPN occassioanlly; you know who watches them? Other gamers who?re glad/surprised to see their beloved hobby getting some recognition on the ?jocks?? channel. The only discussion I?ve heard from non-gamers about televising video game competitions has been essentially ?why are they televising this??Squilookle said:I recognise those youtube numbers are just a drop in the ocean at the moment. But they're probably only going to grow.Xprimentyl said:The question was whether or not esports could ever be as popular as major league sports. Millions of views on YouTube do not equate to network viewership or physical attendance at stadiums, arenas or ball parks.
Is that hyperbole? If not, which people said that about those things? Who said the lightbulb was a fad never to supplant the candle? Who said the bicycle was a larf when compared to good old fashion walking or horseback? The things you mentioned were inventions, true innovation. Videogames already exists as a thing that many people do, so simply watching others do that thing will never be a primetime draw for the masses, i.e.: there will never come a time when a typical Sunday afternoon event is firing up the barbecue, icing down beers and inviting the guys over to watch other dudes play League of Legends. Again, I?m not saying spectating professional gamers isn?t viable or that there will never be any audience for it; I?m saying in response to the OP, no, it will never be on par with the likes of the multi-BILLION dollar industries of professional sports that already enjoy their own, deserved status and hundreds of years of tradition and following.Squilookle said:People said that about movies when they first appeared too. Same for video games. Bicycles. The light bulb. Submarines. The superhero genre etc, etc etc.Xprimentyl said:I?ve no doubt that esports will garner increased popularity, but it will be a cold day in hell when they?ll rival the draw of say Monday Night Football, March Madness or the World Series.
And if you missed my post on this very subject, I was being facetious, but:Squilookle said:
I watched this event Sunday. And you know what? It was a farce. We literally laughed out loud at how ridiculous it was compared to actual NASCAR. Looked great for a video game that you or I could go out, buy and enjoy, but it was cartoonish when compared to what it was pretending to be. They had cars clipping through each other, they don?t animate pit crews, so cars just stop in the pit box for a couple of seconds before taking off ?repaired,?, the ?wrecks? were poorly realized and nowhere near the violence that for some is a huge draw for watching racing. It was a better than nothing ?something? to watch since COVID-19 has effectively cancelled sports, NASCAR included, but given the choice to watch one or the other, any fan of the sport of racing would opt for the real thing.Xprimentyl said:Thought I should apologize for my doubt in esport's viability as I'm quarantined and watching NASCAR's iRacing right now. Guess it takes a plague and pure desperation to bring people in.
I?m a gamer too; I know what games have to offer, how far they?ve come, that more people play them now than ever and how difficulty it is to compete at the professional level. But I?m also a sports fan and I know what it takes to earn a spot on any one of their storied stages as a professional athlete, and that that effort and honor are what people from every walk of life turn out by the millions to watch on gameday. Being really good at a $60 game that anyone can play isn?t quite the same?