Will Macs ever be a force in gaming?

bobstone

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GoGoFrenzy said:
Matthew94 said:
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They're decomplexified PC's, prettied up. Ofcourse not.
Exactly what part of a Mac isn't complex? Windows stole the whole GUI thing from Macs, I don't know what does a regular Windows user need to know that is so much more complex.
Well they didn't have cut and paste until last year and you had to pay to get it.
WHAT?! Who pranked you with this falsehood? lol
I think he is talking about the pay update for the ipod touch...


also, how many people here have current versions of both apple and pc?

my desktop will always be pc, and for good reason, you can custom build a pc, people have pointed at the mac pro desktop and called it over priced which it is, but apple does not do price changes just hardware updates, and they have not updated the mac pro in a LONG time. and to compare a pc to an apple that is one foot out of the grave since they have not updated it since July 27, 2010... kinda silly


but with laptops it is another matter

ever since apple has switched to intel hardware I have been buying apple laptops. it ain't the best gaming machine out there by far, but with steam pushing games for osx and the ability to use bootcamp/win7 it handles all my "mobile" gaming needs, and when it is not gaming I get 5+ hours of battery life (honestly its about 7 but that can be a hard number to swallow) now you can link a alienware system or whatever is the new gaming laptop with sli n stuff, but I want a laptop not a desktop replacement, and for that apple does it right imho!

also to people saying it is also overpriced, just like all their stuff, apple updates hardware not lowers price, so when a macbook pro is first released it is quite competitively priced, typically has better battery life then the competition, and imho a better design by far.

to sum up gaming if you are looking at gaming on a mac, do not use their mac pro as an example, use imacs or macbook pro's their desktops ain't so good (for the simple reason that they are all in one computers), their laptops can be quite good.

to sum up price, compare macbooks and imacs at release to similarly configured pc's and you will not find them nearly so over priced as expected.

side note, osx as an OS is lovely if you know linux/unix, ever since they switched to a unix based core I have loved what can be done with a mac, for example if you know what your doing most Linux programs can run on osx( if you don't know what your doing why would you care about running linux programs :) ) I am not saying it is better then windows 7, but I never switch from my pc to mac and think wow this is clunky, or vice a versa...
 

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Well, many games on steam are for mac, however microsoft outnumbers them greatly. If you call ipods/iphones/ipads macs then yes. The app market is huge. The question is, are we talking about apple in general or just the mac series.
 

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Spartan1362 said:
For the love of god can we stop refering to Microsoft as 'PC'.
Both Mac and Microsoft computers have the potential to be PCs.


OT: I don't consider it likely unless someone with a brain gets a hold of Apple.
Interesting to note, my 2009 17" Macbook Pro can run both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7 via Bootcamp. I like to refer to my laptop as a horrible hybrid/mutant of both platforms for my maximum enjoyment of games on both. As for Macs themselves, I've never really seen them being all too big outside of the mobile market, with the exception of Blizzard and Steam titles which are compatible with OSX.
 

bobstone

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Matthew94 said:
GoGoFrenzy said:
Matthew94 said:
ElPatron said:
Elmoth said:
They're decomplexified PC's, prettied up. Ofcourse not.
Exactly what part of a Mac isn't complex? Windows stole the whole GUI thing from Macs, I don't know what does a regular Windows user need to know that is so much more complex.
Well they didn't have cut and paste until last year and you had to pay to get it.
WHAT?! Who pranked you with this falsehood? lol
bobstone said:
I think he is talking about the pay update for the ipod touch...


Nope, cut and paste only got introduced with lion, a paid for update.

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/os_x_lion_cut_and_paste_finally/

OSX, ahead of the curve...
Got me there. But you know what, I consider my self to be a bit of a power user in both osx and windows and I never noticed it in osx, I should of I guess but what can I say... To me it was a non issue, besides the article mis leads you there. It seems to be written to make non Mac users point and giggle at osx. You don't have it the same way windows did but it was not like you couldn't copy or move a file if you wanted to. Or that it was hard to do. I mean honestly you think osx users can't choose to copy or move a file? Cut and past is just a way of manipulating file, osx did it differently, if it was an issue it would of been "fixed" much earlier, it's not like reprogramming the entire OS to do it was required.
 

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They will become more able to play current games but the app store will never be a force of it's own. The sad fact of the store is if you don't luck into the top 100 list your app is never going to be heard of.
 

bobstone

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Was just my opinion about the site. Not saying you where looking to link a biased site. And yes if it was considered a "fix" you are right, still IMHO it seems like a mostly non issue.

Back to gaming aspect tho, any Mac is just a pc now a days, so it will run any game that the same hardware on a "windows pc" would run since the only real diffrence is OS, cept with apple I can install both OS's natively where on a "windows pc" you can't legally install osx, so it boils down to hardware costs from apple vs window manufactures/DIY builds. Windows is cheaper to build a desktop any day of the week so it wins their, but apples laptops are really nice and not as over priced as people seem to think. Plus apple laptops until just recently where thinner and better designed the windows ones IMHO, windows laptops have been getting more portable but still can't match the battery life of an osx laptop, so for gaming on the go I would still call apple laptops a viable option.
 

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bobstone said:
Was just my opinion about the site. Not saying you where looking to link a biased site. And yes if it was considered a "fix" you are right, still IMHO it seems like a mostly non issue.

Back to gaming aspect tho, any Mac is just a pc now a days, so it will run any game that the same hardware on a "windows pc" would run since the only real diffrence is OS, cept with apple I can install both OS's natively where on a "windows pc" you can't legally install osx, so it boils down to hardware costs from apple vs window manufactures/DIY builds. Windows is cheaper to build a desktop any day of the week so it wins their, but apples laptops are really nice and not as over priced as people seem to think. Plus apple laptops until just recently where thinner and better designed the windows ones IMHO, windows laptops have been getting more portable but still can't match the battery life of an osx laptop, so for gaming on the go I would still call apple laptops a viable option.
Apples laptops are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpriced.

My mates Macbook cost £850 and can't even run 5 year old games on high settings, but my Acer laptop cost £500, has a bigger screen and can run modern games on the highest settings.
 

bobstone

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endtherapture said:
bobstone said:
Was just my opinion about the site. Not saying you where looking to link a biased site. And yes if it was considered a "fix" you are right, still IMHO it seems like a mostly non issue.

Back to gaming aspect tho, any Mac is just a pc now a days, so it will run any game that the same hardware on a "windows pc" would run since the only real diffrence is OS, cept with apple I can install both OS's natively where on a "windows pc" you can't legally install osx, so it boils down to hardware costs from apple vs window manufactures/DIY builds. Windows is cheaper to build a desktop any day of the week so it wins their, but apples laptops are really nice and not as over priced as people seem to think. Plus apple laptops until just recently where thinner and better designed the windows ones IMHO, windows laptops have been getting more portable but still can't match the battery life of an osx laptop, so for gaming on the go I would still call apple laptops a viable option.
Apples laptops are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpriced.

My mates Macbook cost £850 and can't even run 5 year old games on high settings, but my Acer laptop cost £500, has a bigger screen and can run modern games on the highest settings.
Mbp's When they are first released are not really overpriced, also MacBooks don't have decent discrete graphics so I wouldt consider them as much for gaming.

When I bought my prior mbp, a dell wih the same options was only 200 cheaper, was made of plastic, and didn't have a 5+ hour battery life. This was right when they released the new mbp, if you waited half a year to a year to buy it, then it was overpriced since apple does not change prices or do small revisions on their laptops. But when a mbp is first updated it is not way overpriced...

Also I am talking state side. I feel for people in Europe where they have the same price figure but diffrent cash, I.e. 850 usd vs 850 pounds. so to me it is 850 usd for that laptop, for you it is 1275 usd equivalent. much more expensive.

and how old are the laptops in question, also I looked at acres models and I can not find any acer with a discrete graphics card under 900 usd, which is still more then 500 pounds, so which laptop did you get and was it used or something?
 

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If Apple became more dominant in the PC market than I don't see why not.

Spartan1362 said:
For the love of god can we stop referring to Microsoft as 'PC'.
Both Mac and Microsoft computers have the potential to be PCs.
Also, I agree, I find that really annoying. Both operating systems can be used on PCs; pretending one operating system makes the computer it runs on any different is just annoying.
 

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Z of the Na said:
Spartan1362 said:
For the love of god can we stop refering to Microsoft as 'PC'.
Both Mac and Microsoft computers have the potential to be PCs.


OT: I don't consider it likely unless someone with a brain gets a hold of Apple.
Interesting to note, my 2009 17" Macbook Pro can run both Snow Leopard, and Windows 7 via Bootcamp. I like to refer to my laptop as a horrible hybrid/mutant of both platforms for my maximum enjoyment of games on both. As for Macs themselves, I've never really seen them being all too big outside of the mobile market, with the exception of Blizzard and Steam titles which are compatible with OSX.

THIS is the best way to game on macs. I honestly don't understand why some mac users wait for a mac version of a game when they can run it perfectly via Bootcamp?