Do you think they'll keep dragons in the game for TES6 as random events, dungeon boss characters or anything? Or do you think they will now do away with them forever after Skyrim?
Will there be Dragons in TES6?
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Probably at least reduced a lot. Prior to Skyrim, dragons were kept out of the games (and are only fairly minor in the lore) because they were deemed to be too generic. Given their reason for being in Skyrim (I still haven't gotten around to playing it, so I could be wrong) they're not going to be in other areas of Tamriel, and the next game isn't going to be set in Skyrim.
Besides... Wouldn't that be boring? I'd rather they did something different, which they could do very easily.
Besides... Wouldn't that be boring? I'd rather they did something different, which they could do very easily.
Considering it will be another province and the Dragonborn went on a dragon genocide, I'd think there would be very few flying around in TES VI. It'd be cool if there were only like two or three of them and they were all named boss encounters.
There was nothing in TESV stopping them from going to other areas of Tamriel, and at the end of the game they still exist, albeit in much reduced numbers (according to the lore anyway), but if they do return they won't be any where near as prominent as they are in TESV, because of their role in that story.
The reason Bethesda stayed away from dragons before Skyrim wasn't just because they were too generic, but because they didn't think they could do them in a way that did them justice before that time. So now that they can, and they have, they've kind of popped the cork on that one, so it may actually be possible that we will see them. But still, if we do it'll almost certainly be a very minor way.
And I don't think dragons are boring. As much as people think of them as being generic fantasy fare, you don't actually see them done in games that often. At least, not done well. And Skyrim has plenty of other boring and generic aspects to it. Elves, orcs, goblins, trolls, zombies, skeletons. Dragons are a lot more interesting than those, in at least how they behave and in their sheer scale.
But anyway, it could happen, but I doubt it. And if it does happen, they will be very rare and not play anywhere near as big of a role as they did in TESV. The series is not a very iterative one, and because of the way it hops around to different regions in every installment, it's not likely you will see the "new" stuff from one game be continued in the next. Not in terms of monsters at least.
The reason Bethesda stayed away from dragons before Skyrim wasn't just because they were too generic, but because they didn't think they could do them in a way that did them justice before that time. So now that they can, and they have, they've kind of popped the cork on that one, so it may actually be possible that we will see them. But still, if we do it'll almost certainly be a very minor way.
And I don't think dragons are boring. As much as people think of them as being generic fantasy fare, you don't actually see them done in games that often. At least, not done well. And Skyrim has plenty of other boring and generic aspects to it. Elves, orcs, goblins, trolls, zombies, skeletons. Dragons are a lot more interesting than those, in at least how they behave and in their sheer scale.
But anyway, it could happen, but I doubt it. And if it does happen, they will be very rare and not play anywhere near as big of a role as they did in TESV. The series is not a very iterative one, and because of the way it hops around to different regions in every installment, it's not likely you will see the "new" stuff from one game be continued in the next. Not in terms of monsters at least.
I'd like to see a few dragons show up as characters, since they are not mindless beasts. I think it would be fun going on a quest for a dragon.
Well there was nothing in Skyrim's story that would rule them out of appearing again in some form. Although I imagine Bethesda may come up with some lore reasons for why dragons don't appear in the next Elder Scrolls if they felt it would detract from the next game for being too similar to Skyrim. Personally I'd like the odd dragon battle or character to have a small part in the next game.
Yeah, i'd enjoy that. Not as enemies though, atleast not in the way they are in Skyrim. The fights with them absolutely suck, but having actual Dragon characters like Partharuax and Alduin, and us learning more about their culture would be awesome.Adam Jensen said:
I liked the way dragons were in Baldur's Gate 2. They were really rare and powerful creatures. There was the Red Dragon who sent you on a quest to double cross you, the Shadow Dragon who was the guardian of an ancient temple, a Black Dragon who was in the main baddie's army and also the Silver Dragon who sent you on quests and you could also kill.
All were great battles or quests and I think there should be a few dragons in TESVI at least in this variety of different roles. Maybe you could win a few over to your side to help fight the Thalmor!
All were great battles or quests and I think there should be a few dragons in TESVI at least in this variety of different roles. Maybe you could win a few over to your side to help fight the Thalmor!
This is assumming the Elder Scrolls doesn't go the way of the Warcraft RTS games many people loved and just become and MMO and that's it, which I really hope this doesn't.
OT: Make them really rare, intelligent and powerful creatures, then I reckon they would be justified in being there. Just make it less often to keep them exciting, like I've been doing in my pathfinder campaign, throw a dragon out too often and they become common place.
OT: Make them really rare, intelligent and powerful creatures, then I reckon they would be justified in being there. Just make it less often to keep them exciting, like I've been doing in my pathfinder campaign, throw a dragon out too often and they become common place.
This, sooo much this!King Aragorn said:
I dont see why they would do away with them forever, it would be a large waste.endtherapture said:
The dovah, along with the akaviri, are probably the races with the greatest ability to be expanded in any way imaginable.
Actually, they were kept out because of technical limitations, same reason we never saw any akaviri snake men ghosts in Pale Pass in Oblivion.TheRightToArmBears said:
Snakes are a pain in the ass to animate and model in a way that doesn't look like total shit, and dragons are nothing more then snake with wings.
I think they'd move on from it. They didn't feel the need to come up with an Oblivion-gate equivalent in Skyrim, so I don't see why they'd do the same with dragons. Besides which, they leave enough time between each game to come up with any reason they like to get rid of them. Perhaps they'll drop in a couple to give a sense of continuity.
To be fair, if you do end up fighting any dragons next title, it'll be in a completely remastered setting, so Bethesda may well jazz it up a notch.King Aragorn said:
OT: I think it's probable. There weren't a huge number of them, but there's nothing to stop them breeding and flying over the borders. Especially as only a minority would follow the Way of the Voice. Dovahs will be Dovahs after all.
But with Mehrunes Dagon utterly thwarted, there's no way Oblivion Gates are coming back into the world. Whereas the dragons live, and are a fully fledged species, capable of reproducing. So, the logic applied to the Gates doesn't really apply here.Woodsey said:
They certantly won't be infinite and randomly spawning anymore, that's for sure. But the real question is if Bethesda will actually use the massive downtime between games to put some actual depth in the game, I'm gonna put them in the BioWare bucket if they don't have any cities bigger than the skyrim ones.
I'd say it depends less on "where" the next Elder Scrolls game takes place and more on "when". What was the jump between Oblivion and Skyrim? Wasn't it like, 200 years or something?
I'd imagine that if it's another centuries-long leap through time that the dragons had been hunted to extinction or they'd be so incredibly rare that the chances of finding one are inconsequential.
That said, I can see them putting in one as a secret boss, or perhaps a boss-battle at the end of one of the guild story lines, but I don't think they'll be random encounters or that there'll even be very many of them, if any at all.
I mean in Skyrim they played a central role in the story, it's literally based around dragons. A new game calls for a new setting, time, and story. The dragons had their fun, but now it's time for something new.
I'd imagine that if it's another centuries-long leap through time that the dragons had been hunted to extinction or they'd be so incredibly rare that the chances of finding one are inconsequential.
That said, I can see them putting in one as a secret boss, or perhaps a boss-battle at the end of one of the guild story lines, but I don't think they'll be random encounters or that there'll even be very many of them, if any at all.
I mean in Skyrim they played a central role in the story, it's literally based around dragons. A new game calls for a new setting, time, and story. The dragons had their fun, but now it's time for something new.