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Quiet Stranger

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Soon my government will employ the Winter Parking Ban, I find this very inconvenient because it forces me to park some where that's not on the side of a street, so when I can't find anywhere to park, I'm screwed. For discussion value, does your government do this? Also, it's really stupid because they employ it when there's no snow on the ground at all.

To you other Canadian citizens, does your city employ a Winter Parking Ban?

To anyone who lives in Halifax, when does this happen? I don't remember
 

Super Six One

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I have never heard of a total ban on parking, out of curiousity is it because of the weather conditions that the pan gets put in place?
 

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We have something similar to those in the colder areas of the United States (I'm from Iowa, we usually get 12 snowfalls between December and February). They're called Emergency Snow Routes. However, it's only enforced during periods of snowfall. If it's not snowing or accumulating, you can park there.

Basically, it there's at least four of five inches, plow truck will clean up the streets. Therefore, until that truck comes by your ass better not park there.
 

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Here in Quebec, in my small town of Saint-Basile-le-Grand, there's a winter parking ban going from November 15th to March or April.... Pretty sure it's March... It's pretty much like that in a lot a smaller towns in the region.

EDIT: The ban is for night parking only, of course.
 

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Super Six One said:
I have never heard of a total ban on parking, out of curiousity is it because of the weather conditions that the pan gets put in place?
It's the case here. The night ban is to make sure all the streets are clear to allow snow plows to do their work, in case of a significant snow fall.
 

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ravensheart18 said:
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.

1&2 have been in place in Toronto, and the cities that made up the old "Metro Toronto" for at least 30 years. 3 is brand new, most people don't know until they get a ticket.
Was there a reason for implementing that rule? I mean, where else are you going to park your cars?
 

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ravensheart18 said:
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.
Wait, what if you don't have a car garage at all?
 

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Dublin Solo said:
Super Six One said:
I have never heard of a total ban on parking, out of curiousity is it because of the weather conditions that the pan gets put in place?
It's the case here. The night ban is to make sure all the streets are clear to allow snow plows to do their work, in case of a significant snow fall.

Ahhh, i can kinda understand then. I live in Scotland where we've been hit by a bizzarley high amount of snow, and due to the fact that cars park on the street the grit/plow turcks cannot clear the roads fully, leading to almost every road in the city one lane.

But they're isn't much that can be done about it now, they'd have to move the snow so they can get the cars out, to fully clear the roads.....kinda buggered, haha
 

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Our local city government issues winter parking bans as an exception, rather than a rule - so if there's a ban on parking on any given day, that's because it is heavily snowing and they need cars off the streets so they can keep them plowed. Which is fine by me, as that makes perfect sense and they're super good about actually keeping our roads clear in the winter. A blanket ban on all parking starting on [date] and irrespective of weather conditions though sounds like something worth complaining about, my condolences.

ravensheart18 said:
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.
What. No seriously, what the hell? Why would anyone make that regulation, and what's the bloody point behind it?! There is no part of that 'rule' you have described that does not sound like a bullshit way to fine people so you can raise money, and that's assuming the people who wrote that into law are of sound mind (quite an assumption).

I would really love to hear the rational behind that restriction.
 

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Yup. It went into effect here last Saturday due to the significant snow cover.
And I totally understand where you're coming from since I'm regularly forced to park in the street too.
 

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Super Six One said:
I have never heard of a total ban on parking, out of curiousity is it because of the weather conditions that the pan gets put in place?
Nope, they just put it on at a certain date and then take it away at some other date, it's really stupid because most of the time during the ban, there is no snow on the ground at all
 

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ravensheart18 said:
I live in Toronto, ON, and we now officially have the most idiodic parking laws going.

1) During winter you can't park on city streets overnight (to permit snow clearing)
2) The exception to (1) is if you live in the downtown city core on a designated city street where you are allowed to pay for a permit to park on one side of the street, and that side changes by week, in theory allowing snow clearing, in reality often making snow clearing imposssible. For some reason they won't allow the same thing in the other parts of the city where it might even work better.
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.

1&2 have been in place in Toronto, and the cities that made up the old "Metro Toronto" for at least 30 years. 3 is brand new, most people don't know until they get a ticket.

The third one has got to be the dumbest thing I've heard this week, that's just plain asinine
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Soon my government will employ the Winter Parking Ban, I find this very inconvenient because it forces me to park some where that's not on the side of a street, so when I can't find anywhere to park, I'm screwed. For discussion value, does your government do this? Also, it's really stupid because they employ it when there's no snow on the ground at all.

To you other Canadian citizens, does your city employ a Winter Parking Ban?

To anyone who lives in Halifax, when does this happen? I don't remember
In some cases of heavy duty snow fall they do that to keep insurance costs down. Snow plows tend to throw things other than snow. And if you parked on the side of the road, they have to pay for it. Its basically to cover them. Not to make your life easier.
 

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ravensheart18 said:
They were "rationalizing" the bylaws in the city (we used to be multiple cities, mushed together a few years back) and they adopted the parking law from a richer neighborhood where they thought it was "unsightly" to see too many cars parked in driveways.

I have yet to hear one politician step up and say it makes sense. It was part of a HUGE bylaw change and I suspect that it may have been one of those things one beuracrat or politician thought was a good idea and no one else read the law before passing it.
That is beyond stupid, and highly impractical.
If there is any one thing that local laws/ordinances must be, especially for traffic, it's practical.

Of course the rich will have more space; they tend to have much larger houses!
 

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Antari said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Soon my government will employ the Winter Parking Ban, I find this very inconvenient because it forces me to park some where that's not on the side of a street, so when I can't find anywhere to park, I'm screwed. For discussion value, does your government do this? Also, it's really stupid because they employ it when there's no snow on the ground at all.

To you other Canadian citizens, does your city employ a Winter Parking Ban?

To anyone who lives in Halifax, when does this happen? I don't remember
In some cases of heavy duty snow fall they do that to keep insurance costs down. Snow plows tend to throw things other than snow. And if you parked on the side of the road, they have to pay for it. Its basically to cover them. Not to make your life easier.
I know that but it's still really stupid to put it in place when there is no snow on the ground
 

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ravensheart18 said:
Starnerf said:
ravensheart18 said:
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.

1&2 have been in place in Toronto, and the cities that made up the old "Metro Toronto" for at least 30 years. 3 is brand new, most people don't know until they get a ticket.
Was there a reason for implementing that rule? I mean, where else are you going to park your cars?
They were "rationalizing" the bylaws in the city (we used to be multiple cities, mushed together a few years back) and they adopted the parking law from a richer neighborhood where they thought it was "unsightly" to see too many cars parked in driveways.

I have yet to hear one politician step up and say it makes sense. It was part of a HUGE bylaw change and I suspect that it may have been one of those things one beuracrat or politician thought was a good idea and no one else read the law before passing it.

Orekoya said:
Wait, what if you don't have a car garage at all?
Then you can't park in your driveway.

Now I should say there is a "grandparenting" provision that allows you to keep using the driveways the same way you did previous to the change in law, but only until there is a change of ownership of the house, and only if you can prove in court that you previously used it that way (its been suggested that has to include pictures).
What city do you live in again? This is the most retarded thing I've heard!!!
 

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ravensheart18 said:
Starnerf said:
ravensheart18 said:
3) You can only park as many cars in your driveway as you have door space in your garage. That means if you have a "one car" garage you can only park 1 car in your driveway, even if that driveway is 3 cars wide and 3 cars deep. Yup, space for 9, only allowed to park 1.

1&2 have been in place in Toronto, and the cities that made up the old "Metro Toronto" for at least 30 years. 3 is brand new, most people don't know until they get a ticket.
Was there a reason for implementing that rule? I mean, where else are you going to park your cars?
They were "rationalizing" the bylaws in the city (we used to be multiple cities, mushed together a few years back) and they adopted the parking law from a richer neighborhood where they thought it was "unsightly" to see too many cars parked in driveways.

I have yet to hear one politician step up and say it makes sense. It was part of a HUGE bylaw change and I suspect that it may have been one of those things one beuracrat or politician thought was a good idea and no one else read the law before passing it.

Orekoya said:
Wait, what if you don't have a car garage at all?
Then you can't park in your driveway.

Now I should say there is a "grandparenting" provision that allows you to keep using the driveways the same way you did previous to the change in law, but only until there is a change of ownership of the house, and only if you can prove in court that you previously used it that way (its been suggested that has to include pictures).
So I guess they want you to park on the lawn, then? Or in someone else's driveway? Because I don't know how that made any sense when they came up with it.
 

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ravensheart18 said:
Orekoya said:
Wait, what if you don't have a car garage at all?
Then you can't park in your driveway.

Now I should say there is a "grandparenting" provision that allows you to keep using the driveways the same way you did previous to the change in law, but only until there is a change of ownership of the house, and only if you can prove in court that you previously used it that way (its been suggested that has to include pictures).
The thing is, I find garages mostly ugly additions to houses, if a house doesn't hide the car garage in a tasteful manner (like beneath/behind the house) then I'd rather own a house that doesn't have one at all. My current one doesn't have one for that reason.