Wisconsin Protests

[PeePantz]

The very notion of a government removing the fundamental right of workers to organize suggests that America's soon to be headed toward a Tunisia/Egypt/Yemen/Bahrain/whatever Middle Eastern country wants to start having demonstrations today situation.

And I for one couldn't be happier. It shows me that the citizens have finally been pushed far enough by the government and are starting to push back instead of meekly sitting back and taking it. Displays of actual citizenship? There's hope for this idiot country yet.

You're from Boston, I feel like you should be well versed in the unions abusing the system.

I personally feel that unions have gotten way too much power and need to be knocked down a few pegs. Being from Boston, I see a ton of abuse and all around laziness. Nothing ever gets done because of unions milking every job, then hiding behind all these BS laws that were put in place to protect them.

Sure, workers need rights, however that's why there is OSHA. This isn't the beginning of last century. Laws are in place to prevent the abuse of workers, laws now need to be put in place to keep the workers from abusing their employers.

Government jobs should have perks and there needs to be unions. That being said, unions need to be better regulated.

 

[SimuLord]

The very notion of a government removing the fundamental right of workers to organize suggests that America's soon to be headed toward a Tunisia/Egypt/Yemen/Bahrain/whatever Middle Eastern country wants to start having demonstrations today situation.

And I for one couldn't be happier. It shows me that the citizens have finally been pushed far enough by the government and are starting to push back instead of meekly sitting back and taking it. Displays of actual citizenship? There's hope for this idiot country yet.

You're from Boston, I feel like you should be well versed in the unions abusing the system.

I personally feel that unions have gotten way too much power and need to be knocked down a few pegs. Being from Boston, I see a ton of abuse and all around laziness. Nothing ever gets done because of unions milking every job, then hiding behind all these BS laws that were put in place to protect them.

Sure, workers need rights, however that's why there is OSHA. This isn't the beginning of last century. Laws are in place to prevent the abuse of workers, laws now need to be put in place to keep the workers from abusing their employers.

Government jobs should have perks and there needs to be unions. That being said, unions need to be better regulated.

Having lived in Nevada the past nine years, a state actively opposed to even the most basic worker's rights, I can say with fair certainty that I would rather have Massachusetts' problem of too much union activity with the corruption and excess thus associated than Nevada's problem of workers with barely more right to their own assurance of the ability to make a living and provide for themselves than workers had in 1875. And if "pro-business" policies are so great, why does Massachusetts have 8% unemployment and Nevada 15%?

I'm moving home to Boston next year. And I'll defend the Bay State's particular brand of socialist wackiness having seen the alternative.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Yeah, I've only recently heard about this in passing (since I've been incapacitated for much of the previous 48 hours, via illness).

I know that state budgets are tight (or worse) right now, but if you're going to turn every civil-service career into a dead-end job, make sure you have a backup plan.

[sub]...I swear this is how the 6th World corporate takeover begins.
Better get my Lone Star registration papers and SIN in order now...just in case.[/sub]

 

[PeePantz]

Having lived in Nevada the past nine years, a state actively opposed to even the most basic worker's rights, I can say with fair certainty that I would rather have Massachusetts' problem of too much union activity with the corruption and excess thus associated than Nevada's problem of workers with barely more right to their own assurance of the ability to make a living and provide for themselves than workers had in 1875. And if "pro-business" policies are so great, why does Massachusetts have 8% unemployment and Nevada 15%?

I'm moving home to Boston next year. And I'll defend the Bay State's particular brand of socialist wackiness having seen the alternative.

Haha. The extreme approach to living. Aggressive. I like it.

Also, nothing against Nevada, but I think the reason is that our tools tend to be sharper. Solely because the vast amount of higher education that is around.

Be prepared though. Winds have changed. *cough*Scott Brown*cough*

 

[SimuLord]

Having lived in Nevada the past nine years, a state actively opposed to even the most basic worker's rights, I can say with fair certainty that I would rather have Massachusetts' problem of too much union activity with the corruption and excess thus associated than Nevada's problem of workers with barely more right to their own assurance of the ability to make a living and provide for themselves than workers had in 1875. And if "pro-business" policies are so great, why does Massachusetts have 8% unemployment and Nevada 15%?

I'm moving home to Boston next year. And I'll defend the Bay State's particular brand of socialist wackiness having seen the alternative.

Haha. The extreme approach to living. Aggressive. I like it.

Also, nothing against Nevada, but I think the reason is that our tools tend to be sharper. Solely because the vast amount of higher education that is around.

Be prepared though. Winds have changed. *cough*Scott Brown*cough*

I tend to believe that the fever will break in Massachusetts fairly quickly---Scott Brown ran against Martha Coakley, who provided a delightful object lesson in how NOT to get elected in Massachusetts. Seriously? Calling Curt Schilling "probably a Yankee fan"? Did Martha miss the entire understanding of just what it means to be from Massachusetts? It's like she was working on Brown's campaign staff.

Get an even halfway competent Democrat running against Scott Brown and he'll be back on the streets of Wakefield (whereupon my fellow WHS alumni and I will knock some sense into him) in no time.

And I will absolutely not argue that Nevadans are anything other than complete idiots. There's talk of reviving the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste disposal project, to which I've said on the record "Someone has to get irradiated, and I can't think of a more deserving bunch of folks than the fine people of Nevada."

 

[PeePantz]

Having lived in Nevada the past nine years, a state actively opposed to even the most basic worker's rights, I can say with fair certainty that I would rather have Massachusetts' problem of too much union activity with the corruption and excess thus associated than Nevada's problem of workers with barely more right to their own assurance of the ability to make a living and provide for themselves than workers had in 1875. And if "pro-business" policies are so great, why does Massachusetts have 8% unemployment and Nevada 15%?

I'm moving home to Boston next year. And I'll defend the Bay State's particular brand of socialist wackiness having seen the alternative.

Haha. The extreme approach to living. Aggressive. I like it.

Also, nothing against Nevada, but I think the reason is that our tools tend to be sharper. Solely because the vast amount of higher education that is around.

Be prepared though. Winds have changed. *cough*Scott Brown*cough*

I tend to believe that the fever will break in Massachusetts fairly quickly---Scott Brown ran against Martha Coakley, who provided a delightful object lesson in how NOT to get elected in Massachusetts. Seriously? Calling Curt Schilling "probably a Yankee fan"? Did Martha miss the entire understanding of just what it means to be from Massachusetts? It's like she was working on Brown's campaign staff.

Get an even halfway competent Democrat running against Scott Brown and he'll be back on the streets of Wakefield (whereupon my fellow WHS alumni and I will knock some sense into him) in no time.

And I will absolutely not argue that Nevadans are anything other than complete idiots. There's talk of reviving the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste disposal project, to which I've said on the record "Someone has to get irradiated, and I can't think of a more deserving bunch of folks than the fine people of Nevada."

As they say, timing is everything in life. If that election was two weeks earlier or two weeks later, Scott Brown would still be cruising around in his truck on the North Shore, listening to his daughters demo tapes on his radio. Just remember, Coakley also had the disadvantage of having a job. An important one.

I agree that Brown will be ousted in the next election, and I fully support the welcome home party you want to throw.

As far as Nevada is concerned, it's such a strange place where the entire workforce is employed by the shadiest businesses in the country. This does not allow for the best of working environments. And it only gets shadier in Reno.

 

[Light 086]

I'd respond with a shotgun hahahaha j/k. I'd definitely be vocal get some people to protest, possible even protest myself. Thank god I live in Canada, we got free health care(well not free our taxes pay for it, but still...).

you need to be careful even in canada, you have conservative fuckholes from here that are trying to establish the whole right wing thing up there and they are slowly but surly making progress

Unfortunately that's true. I always hated the conservatives. The liberals are assholes too, but they don't try to fuck us over too much, which is why I prefer the liberals any day over the conservatives.
The only reason the conservatives were voted in the first place was because of that damn scandal. I can understand people being pissed off, but voting the conservatives in was a mistake. And like you stated they are already trying to screw everyone.

 

[SimuLord]

Having lived in Nevada the past nine years, a state actively opposed to even the most basic worker's rights, I can say with fair certainty that I would rather have Massachusetts' problem of too much union activity with the corruption and excess thus associated than Nevada's problem of workers with barely more right to their own assurance of the ability to make a living and provide for themselves than workers had in 1875. And if "pro-business" policies are so great, why does Massachusetts have 8% unemployment and Nevada 15%?

I'm moving home to Boston next year. And I'll defend the Bay State's particular brand of socialist wackiness having seen the alternative.

Haha. The extreme approach to living. Aggressive. I like it.

Also, nothing against Nevada, but I think the reason is that our tools tend to be sharper. Solely because the vast amount of higher education that is around.

Be prepared though. Winds have changed. *cough*Scott Brown*cough*

I tend to believe that the fever will break in Massachusetts fairly quickly---Scott Brown ran against Martha Coakley, who provided a delightful object lesson in how NOT to get elected in Massachusetts. Seriously? Calling Curt Schilling "probably a Yankee fan"? Did Martha miss the entire understanding of just what it means to be from Massachusetts? It's like she was working on Brown's campaign staff.

Get an even halfway competent Democrat running against Scott Brown and he'll be back on the streets of Wakefield (whereupon my fellow WHS alumni and I will knock some sense into him) in no time.

And I will absolutely not argue that Nevadans are anything other than complete idiots. There's talk of reviving the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste disposal project, to which I've said on the record "Someone has to get irradiated, and I can't think of a more deserving bunch of folks than the fine people of Nevada."

As they say, timing is everything in life. If that election was two weeks earlier or two weeks later, Scott Brown would still be cruising around in his truck on the North Shore, listening to his daughters demo tapes on his radio. Just remember, Coakley also had the disadvantage of having a job. An important one.

I agree that Brown will be ousted in the next election, and I fully support the welcome home party you want to throw.

As far as Nevada is concerned, it's such a strange place where the entire workforce is employed by the shadiest businesses in the country. This does not allow for the best of working environments. And it only gets shadier in Reno.

Having lived in Reno since 2002 I can say that it's less about "shady" and more about "haven for businesses that know they have their employees by the balls because those employees have no skills, no education, and no hope and will thus bend over and take it whenever the company wants to screw them." Not for nothing do I call this place the Wasteland (which is only an indirect reference to Fallout, and more because the term is apropos to the place.)