Witcher 2 question?

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So I had a quick Witcher 2 plot question. Spoilers of the first act abound naturally.

So Loredo has this elf that he's impregnated, but what to end?

Does he have an actual plan with the baby or was it just another one of his perversions?

Or is it some weird plan to end the racism between the races? (Though that seems out of character for Loredo)

Just a small question that's been bothering me lately.

Also Witcher 2 general thread I suppose.
 

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When do you hear of this in the story? I've played through the first act twice and have no memory of ever hearing that anywhere. Also, to clarify, is Loredo the fat mayor/constable of Floatsm?

Though sadly I don't see myself ever beating the Witcher 2, unless I buy a controller for my PC. The fast pace combat just doesn't work on a keyboard. I don't have the reaction time needed to dodge, parry, and attack all at the same time. I've been stuck on that damn harpy contract in the dwarf town for like 5 months now. Seriously, FUCK HARPIES!
 

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Elfgore said:
When do you hear of this in the story? I've played through the first act twice and have no memory of ever hearing that anywhere. Also, to clarify, is Loredo the fat mayor/constable of Floatsm?

Though sadly I don't see myself ever beating the Witcher 2, unless I buy a controller for my PC. The fast pace combat just doesn't work on a keyboard. I don't have the reaction time needed to dodge, parry, and attack all at the same time. I've been stuck on that damn harpy contract in the dwarf town for like 5 months now. Seriously, FUCK HARPIES!
Really? Keyboard works for me just fine. Maybe try lowering the difficulty or perhaps get the combat rebalance mod?

That said yeah that's Loredo, but you took Iorveths path if your in the dwarven town so you didn't get this quest. You need to side with Roche to get this one.
 
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well seeing as how twisted the bastard is, especially in the end when you meet with his mother and they are both doing lines of coke like it's a fucking daily dosage of candy, i can only imagine the greedy/horrid thoughts that goes through that monsters mind. not to mention multiple times roche mentions how much a piece of of shit loredo really is, so i can only assume he had no plan beyond raising the "bastard child" as a slave or to be a fucking prick like him whenever they grow up.

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edit: I use a controller for witcher 2, as I prefer the snap functions it has, but I did use the keyboard/mouse combo at one point playing it in the past and it worked fine compared to some games, so i'll give it a "average" rating.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
well seeing as how twisted the bastard is, especially in the end when you meet with his mother and they are both doing lines of coke like it's a fucking daily dosage of candy, i can only imagine the greedy/horrid thoughts that goes through that monsters mind. not to mention multiple times roche mentions how much a piece of of shit loredo really is, so i can only assume he had no plan beyond raising the "bastard child" as a slave or to be a fucking prick like him whenever they grow up.

captcha: goody gumpdrop

not in the slightest captcha...keep trying.

edit: I use a controller for witcher 2, as I prefer the snap functions it has, but I did use the keyboard/mouse combo at one point playing it in the past and it worked fine compared to some games, so i'll give it a "average" rating.
So he's just a prick? I don't know why but I feel like there's more to it.
 

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No idea, I would have expected him to kill her find another elf to rape when she fell pregnant. Maybe he was particularly ?attached? to that particular one or there weren't any others he thinks he could get away with kidnapping that he wants and would have killed the kid after it was born or maybe he wanted the kid for some reason, who knows? I think they were just trying to make him seem as depraved as possible.
 
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Saviordd1 said:
gmaverick019 said:
well seeing as how twisted the bastard is, especially in the end when you meet with his mother and they are both doing lines of coke like it's a fucking daily dosage of candy, i can only imagine the greedy/horrid thoughts that goes through that monsters mind. not to mention multiple times roche mentions how much a piece of of shit loredo really is, so i can only assume he had no plan beyond raising the "bastard child" as a slave or to be a fucking prick like him whenever they grow up.

captcha: goody gumpdrop

not in the slightest captcha...keep trying.

edit: I use a controller for witcher 2, as I prefer the snap functions it has, but I did use the keyboard/mouse combo at one point playing it in the past and it worked fine compared to some games, so i'll give it a "average" rating.
So he's just a prick? I don't know why but I feel like there's more to it.
he wasn't really that smart, and seeing as he was drugged up 7 nights a week I highly doubt much went on up there during the late hours of the night.

but the whole "keeping moril" thing was just a dirty rapist way of feeling "power", loredo was obsessed with power, as you could see with his ballista, death grip on flotsam, and powering over/raping a non-human, it was all to make him feel superior. I'm not sure what he would've done with the child, as he was chopped to bits by the time that happened, so we can only guess.
 

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I believe it's a case not unlike Josef Fritzl. He held a girl up in his tower as a sex slave and she got pregnant, and he needed to hold her up there so no one else (besides the few trusted) would ever know about it. As far as Seherim knows, the forest took her, and few other people would care about an elf girl. So it was easy enough to keep hidden. If you take Iorveth's path, you never actually discover her at all to my knowledge.

Loredo is one of the few characters in the game that I would consider black and white. He is a prick, and not like a certain king you will come to know in the future. Unlike he, Loredo has no redeeming qualities besides the fact that he is well written and well acted.
 

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I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
 
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ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
i'm not sure what you are looking for in the rebalance, but the nexus has a witcher portion of it, and shit tons of mods are submitted there (if not, check gog forums, they had a thread stickied for all things mods if i remember right)

http://witcher.nexusmods.com/

edit: excuse me, apparently they have broken it up recently into two separate portions for each game:

http://witcher2.nexusmods.com//?
 

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gmaverick019 said:
ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
i'm not sure what you are looking for in the rebalance, but the nexus has a witcher portion of it, and shit tons of mods are submitted there (if not, check gog forums, they had a thread stickied for all things mods if i remember right)

http://witcher.nexusmods.com/

edit: excuse me, apparently they have broken it up recently into two separate portions for each game:

http://witcher2.nexusmods.com//?
Great found the one I was looking for thanks dude.
 

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ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
Honestly I've heard mixed things about the mod so far, I'd recommend holding off on it a bit longer till some of the bugs and issues I've heard about are smoothed over.
 

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The Madman said:
ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
Honestly I've heard mixed things about the mod so far, I'd recommend holding off on it a bit longer till some of the bugs and issues I've heard about are smoothed over.
Yeah I read through some of the comments and it looks pretty buggy at the moment. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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The Madman said:
ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
Honestly I've heard mixed things about the mod so far, I'd recommend holding off on it a bit longer till some of the bugs and issues I've heard about are smoothed over.
ShinyCharizard said:
The Madman said:
ShinyCharizard said:
I'm gonna hijack this thread with my own Witcher II question. Has the combat rebalance mod been released and if so where can I find it?
Honestly I've heard mixed things about the mod so far, I'd recommend holding off on it a bit longer till some of the bugs and issues I've heard about are smoothed over.
Yeah I read through some of the comments and it looks pretty buggy at the moment. Thanks for the heads up.
The mod is pretty good, except for one BIG issue. Do NOT NOT NOT use it on a pre-existing save if you took Roche's path. Otherwise it becomes impossible to craft a certain potion you need to advance in the story.

Otherwise its fine.

gmaverick019 said:
Saviordd1 said:
gmaverick019 said:
well seeing as how twisted the bastard is, especially in the end when you meet with his mother and they are both doing lines of coke like it's a fucking daily dosage of candy, i can only imagine the greedy/horrid thoughts that goes through that monsters mind. not to mention multiple times roche mentions how much a piece of of shit loredo really is, so i can only assume he had no plan beyond raising the "bastard child" as a slave or to be a fucking prick like him whenever they grow up.

captcha: goody gumpdrop

not in the slightest captcha...keep trying.

edit: I use a controller for witcher 2, as I prefer the snap functions it has, but I did use the keyboard/mouse combo at one point playing it in the past and it worked fine compared to some games, so i'll give it a "average" rating.
So he's just a prick? I don't know why but I feel like there's more to it.
he wasn't really that smart, and seeing as he was drugged up 7 nights a week I highly doubt much went on up there during the late hours of the night.

but the whole "keeping moril" thing was just a dirty rapist way of feeling "power", loredo was obsessed with power, as you could see with his ballista, death grip on flotsam, and powering over/raping a non-human, it was all to make him feel superior. I'm not sure what he would've done with the child, as he was chopped to bits by the time that happened, so we can only guess.
That's as good an explanation as I've ever seen I suppose.

BathorysGraveland2 said:
I believe it's a case not unlike Josef Fritzl. He held a girl up in his tower as a sex slave and she got pregnant, and he needed to hold her up there so no one else (besides the few trusted) would ever know about it. As far as Seherim knows, the forest took her, and few other people would care about an elf girl. So it was easy enough to keep hidden. If you take Iorveth's path, you never actually discover her at all to my knowledge.

Loredo is one of the few characters in the game that I would consider black and white. He is a prick, and not like a certain king you will come to know in the future. Unlike he, Loredo has no redeeming qualities besides the fact that he is well written and well acted.
No you don't find her on Iorveth's path.

And I wouldn't consider Henselt grey, at least not on Roches path.
 

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Elfgore said:
When do you hear of this in the story? I've played through the first act twice and have no memory of ever hearing that anywhere. Also, to clarify, is Loredo the fat mayor/constable of Floatsm?

Though sadly I don't see myself ever beating the Witcher 2, unless I buy a controller for my PC. The fast pace combat just doesn't work on a keyboard. I don't have the reaction time needed to dodge, parry, and attack all at the same time. I've been stuck on that damn harpy contract in the dwarf town for like 5 months now. Seriously, FUCK HARPIES!
Loredo and the pregnant elf are disclosed if you help Roche, I think. I gave the sword back to Iorveth and a bit later chose to go with Iorveth so the elf wasn't in my story. From what I read at http://witcher.wikia.com, it's just Loredo's bed toy/slave, nothing else.

To Elfgore, don't use blocking in fight. Just activate Quen, use fast blows to jump to the enemy quickly, maybe fast and strong sequence then roll away, if you in a group fight. Re-cast Quen, fast attack someone near you, then jump away when blows take your Quen away. Some enemies do not like fast attacks in real quick sequence (wraiths come to my mind and also harpies, lol, though the higher species of harpies are quite armoured so it's always wise to use fast blow then strong and use this interchanging sequence till the moment her colleagues take your Quen away, then jump away to re-cast). I found the fight confusing at first but if you learn how to roll away in fight AND not troubling with blocking, because THAT requires quick reflexes - and it's not that hard to dodge by jumping away, even if playing on keyboard which I did all the time - and if you realize many enemies can't be as quick as you making those rolls in sequence (sometimes even making an L-shaped escape), you can almost always find a quiet spot - even run away beyond the zone the enemies will pursue you (I remember I killed golems and bruxas when with Cyntia in the chapter 3, from beyond the entrance door, just making one step inside a room, lashing them with Igni, retreating outside to regenerate Vigor). Also, on later levels, your Quen will be pretty strong, if you invest in it, so the only trouble with fight for me was the Kayran fight and that was only because I didn't know what to do and when I found out I didn't know how to use Yrden).

I used to fight harpies by groups but once I descended all the way down to the mine and they all attacked me at once. I survived the fight, barely, but didn't need to reload. I only cared for Quen at that moment because Igni or Aard were still to weak (and even later they wouldn't fry dozen harpies or more anyway). So with Quen, I fast attacked any harpy and while using more fast blows (and this way pushing her physically few steps every one or two blows) I only kept eye on my Quen and if I wasn't getting too deep into a group of harpies. Not only because they could attack me from back but also because rolling away - dodging - would be impossible if surrounded. If I rolled away, usually two or three jumps at time - and the bottom of mine HAS some space - I noticed it took harpies (and usually every other enemy in the game) some time to re-group or just simply to turn to my new position and start advancing again.

If you fight only a group of harpies, attack furiosly one and when that one is down, retreat. Others will follow you, but you have time to re-cast Quen and if you got Quen update to vent damage to 2 or 3 enemies, you basically safe from normal group of 3 or 4 harpies. I remember harpies in Loc Muinne, they always attacked in one spot, I think 3 of them and they were just nuisance or source of money, but not source of worry. (Maybe I should explain, but with harpies I almost always used fast blows, the strong one only to finish off the harpy and that only if her sisters weren't pressing me too much at the same time. Fast sword attacks always push enemy back and you follow your enemy pretty nimbly and usually the other harpies in a pack have some trouble following you, if you fast attack one harpy so you move away from the pack. In the end they will try to get behind your back but in the last chapter it takes them so long that you easily kill the harpy you fight with even with fast blows, so then you just swing around and with a bit of luck push another harpy away from the group with fast blows - if not, you can always weaken one or both, roll away, recast Quen and fast attack any harpy remaining - fast, because if you stand away, you first auto-roll towards it and then strike the blow. I never needed to recast Quen more than once with these Loc Muinne sisterhood of feather lol)

For the fight with the queen of harpies, just prepare some Yrden traps on the ground into the tunnel, together with some traps, then take the Letho's dream from the projector, quickly retreat into the tunnel, behind the Yrden, and fry approaching or stunned harpies with all your Vigor save the last one, which you can use for Quen and finally attack with sword. Don't forget to use entrance to tunnel as a chokepoint, so it's always only one or two harpies or queen at you, and not using fast attacks that much, because they push enemy back so you step inside an open arena after two, three fast blows and can get yourself surrounded.

All in all, fight in Witcher 2 - and I only used blocking with sword when I played that ghost who couldn't use witchers specialties - is easy enough, just hit opponent and if your Quen is gone or you're getting surrounded, roll away, sometimes even several times and in various directions. Almost no enemy is that quick to be following you immediately. Perhaps only Endrega Queens are like an express train but then, you can Aard them to stun them for a second before you roll away. And with Quen any damage you take you give back (50% to 3 additional enemies, I think 100% to the one causing damage? - if you invested in Quen skill).

To sum up - I didn't feel so god-like fighting, like I did in the last chapter of Witcher 1 (fighting grandmaster or King of the Hunt was tough, but not nerve-wrecking, and anyway was fun because I killed lots of additional wraiths or enemies just like some bugs getting in a way). But in the last chapter of Witcher 2 the part of the old confidence got back, not that much that I could think I was unstoppable, but after Operator and re-arranging skills* I remember killing a platoon of Nilfgaardians with Iorveth pretty easily and nothing like stress I experienced when hunting Endrega Queen in the Chapter 1, lol.

*(I invested in both Mage and Swordplay till the highest skill so I basically got two chains of skills to the top, but could have been ok only to get up to Whirl in Swords and maybe upgrade more other Magical skills - but I wanted adrenaline for sword hits and various other bonuses as well and frankly, not all Mage's skills were essential, not even Yrden levelled-up, and Axii seemed to never work for me, too).

P.S.: In Witcher 2, for bigger enemies than you, Draugirs, Draug, Golems, etc, use Yrden to freeze them on the spot (I never understood how Yrden works lol and some enemies do not get trapped or stop only for second), then just hit them with hard sword attack till you see they move again. This is the time to roll away, run to some safe distance where you can recast Quen and place another Yrden on the ground and stand there to lure the enemy into it (before you roll away in the last moment). In the last fight with Dragon (the second one, actually, on the roof), just jump around often, there are moments when you can approach and hit it few times hard but it needs some skill to spot the moments and in the meantime he - actually SHE, lol - will hit you with claws or tail (even these didn't matter much since Quen was damaging Dragon in exchange and with some decent Vitality combat regeneration, it was pretty undamaging - in all honesty, I didn't use any potions beforehand so only Vitality regeneration and top Quen could get me through alone). Still, I fought and managed to end it in one go, without need to reload. Maybe it helped I had 6-7 Vigor so I could Aard the dragon when I saw it was active and about to hit me. I don't know why but the highest level Aard (that frozen kind you get as an ability outside Loc Muinne) were pretty useful to fight dragon. I was just surprised, I'd never expect Aard to function well with massive Dragon, especially when Draug didn't seem to notice it, lol (but then it was at the chapter 2 and Aard wasn't that Freezing variety at that time, too).

P.S.2: Yes, for blocking, I usually forgot to block the arrows too. But even without bothering to block arrows, Quen can help even in the first chapter. The only time it gave me trouble was at the very beginning, during the assault on the castle but at that time I struggled with fight mechanism anyway...
 

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Saviordd1 said:
And I wouldn't consider Henselt grey, at least not on Roches path.
Obvious Witcher 2 major spoilers.

How so? Sure, he is ruthless, but in the time frame of the game, that's exactly who you need as a king. With a large, powerful empire breathing down your neck, you need someone who is strong, ruthless and not afraid of dirty tactics in order to have any chance at all. Honour is a weakness in war, especially against such a powerful enemy as Nilfgaard. Take Henselt out of the war (by letting Roache kill him) and you may as well hand the Northern Kingdoms to the Nilfgaardian Emperor on a silver platter. Now, don't get me wrong, Radovid is also a strong king, but he alone will not be able to stand against Nilfgaard. And also remember, let Henselt die, and all of Kaedwen ends up in civil war, further fucking the chances of the North. Right now, the North needs to be united by Radovid and Henselt to stand against the coming foe. There is no other chance for victory in my mind.

So yeah, it isn't a black and white issue, not in the slightest. I hope in Witcher 3, there will be serious repercussions if you let Henselt die, there definitely should be.
 

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BathorysGraveland2 said:
So yeah, it isn't a black and white issue, not in the slightest. I hope in Witcher 3, there will be serious repercussions if you let Henselt die, there definitely should be.
Anyone who had a "pleasure" of dealing with Stennis will know Henselt is tough, ruthless, driven, but also reasonable and intelligent. Even in defeat he was cool, as a character. While with Iorveth in Loc Muinne, I expected Henselt to disown his pledge to the treaty when we captured him at Vergen, but no (well yes, it was based on logic, he got greater chunk in the form of half of Temeria, but even then things could happen).

Actually, Radovid is much more nasty character, at least by judging from what I've seen on the Iorveth's path. Pity there was no Adda around this time! Or that nymphomaniac sorceress, what was her name, Keira? :))
 

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Indeed, pretty much all the characters save Loredo and perhaps Dethmold have both pros and cons, which make them interesting. And Adda does have a role in the game if you saved her in The Witcher 1 and imported. She marries Radovid. As for the nymph, I have no idea. There were only two in the first game to my knowledge.
 

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BathorysGraveland2 said:
Adda does have a role in the game if you saved her in The Witcher 1 and imported. She marries Radovid.
Sure, I did save her and I know she is the queen of Redania now, as the consequence. But she wasn't in the game, like, she didn't get a role. Pity she wasn't in Roche's path at least, it'd make me want to try Roche's path as well. :)

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As for the nymph, I have no idea. There were only two in the first game to my knowledge.
Lol, I meant Keira Metz, the sorceress (http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Keira_Metz). Or even Francesca Findabair (http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Francesca_Findabair) could at least make an appearance in Loc Muinne. To see her beauty for myself, lol, and judge. :)

Now when you mentioned nymphs, well... at least, the Lady of the Lake could make an appearance, too? She was my fav in the first game. :)