Witcher 2 Sold Four Times Better on Steam

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Satsuki666 said:
The reality of it is that steam has a very large fan base and most of them would rather have all of their games in one place rather then multiples. It has nothing to do with DRM and everything to do with both ease of use and people being lazy.
EXACTLY. That's my sole reasoning.
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
Steam is just the most widely used and accepted version of DRM.
And because of its "ease" and sales, most of its users seem more than willing to publicly decry any and all forms of competing DRM while conveniently forgetting or ignoring that which is built into Steam.

ph0b0s123 said:
Would still like to know on-line vs physical stats.
The article on VG247.com pointed out that Witcher 2 sold about 250,000 copies digitally in between May 17th and October 30th. They add that nearly a million were sold overall by the end of August. VGChartz.com disagrees--they probably only include retail sales--but they still have Witcher 2 selling more worldwide in the first week than the first six months of digital.
http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/witcher-2-has-moved-close-to-250000-digital-units/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/39247/the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/
 

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I bought it from GOG, since it was the better deal for preorders. Cheaper, plus a bunch of extras, and the money went pretty much straight to the developers.
 

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Well the convenience and wide spread use of Steam can't be beaten, simply having it on there is a huge marketing campaign.

And if you are bothered by Steam there is a quick patch for every game out there.
 

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Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
El Luck said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I actually bought a physical copy.

Did you not? FOOLS! Look at me, enjoying my walkthrough book, my cursed coin, my personal sealed letter and something else I forgot about, while you only have a virtual copy you acquired for the same money! Hah! Peasants!

Seriously though, I love CDProjekt. I just hope they get round to those promised expansion packs once TW2 is out on xbox. I will pre order all of them.
I got all of that too with the digital copy minus the coin. Though lets be honest the Walkthrough book doesn't really help that much, it just points you in the right direction.
You got a sealed letter you can actually hold in your hands? Holy shit, down loadable content is getting advanced.
Well ok that too....shut up.
 

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Frankster said:
Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
What nasty surprise? Offline mode at least has always worked for me. It IS true you need to be connected to the internet before going offline... once, it takes just a single log in and credentials save to be able to access your account offline for as long as you need to.
 

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Frankster said:
Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
What nasty surprise? Offline mode at least has always worked for me. It IS true you need to be connected to the internet before going offline... once, it takes just a single log in and credentials save to be able to access your account offline for as long as you need to.
Second on this. I've had a few days here and there where my internet has been cut off (the most recent due to my girlfriend unplugging a router's power supply because she didn't know that's what it was) and - excepting online games like TF2 - steam has worked perfectly fine, and I could play any game I had installed through the service without any problems.

Do you actually use Steam, Frankster, or have you made an effort to avoid it because you think the DRM is too restrictive?
 

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shadowform said:
DustArma[]
Frankster said:
Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
What nasty surprise? Offline mode at least has always worked for me. It IS true you need to be connected to the internet before going offline... once, it takes just a single log in and credentials save to be able to access your account offline for as long as you need to.
Second on this. I've had a few days here and there where my internet has been cut off (the most recent due to my girlfriend unplugging a router's power supply because she didn't know that's what it was) and - excepting online games like TF2 - steam has worked perfectly fine, and I could play any game I had installed through the service without any problems.

Do you actually use Steam, Frankster, or have you made an effort to avoid it because you think the DRM is too restrictive?
I've had issues with offline mode.
Usually when a game has decided to auto-update and then my internet goes down before it's done. (Or I take my laptop somewhere where I can't get online.)

Off-line mode works perfectly fine, usually.

But it's really annoying when you think it's going to work, but without any real warning to you some kind of update or change was pushed through the last time you were logged in, and suddenly the game you were expecting to be able to play offline isn't available anymore.

It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's incredibly annoying because the only way to get these games working again is to log in. Which is precisely what isn't possible when you're trying to use offline mode in the first place...

And there's no straight-forward way to know this is going to happen to any given game. I remember playing something one day, then not being able to play it the next, and there really wasn't any warning this was going to happen.
Meaning... If you expect to be able to play anything offline, you have to keep a close eye on it, and test it frequently to make sure that's still the case.

This isn't something people with a decent internet connection tend to find out, but as someone who owns a laptop (and actually, shock, horror, TRAVELS with it.), you become very aware of things like this.


Then again, for a laptop owner, one of the oldest, and seemingly most harmless forms of DRM is also incredibly annoying. Needing a CD to be in the drive to start a game isn't a big deal normally, but when my collection of game disks weighs more than the computer the games are being played on, AND it's all installed on the computer anyway, so the disk is really just 'proof of ownership', it gets quite irritating. - So when travelling with a laptop you run into a choice of:
1. Take all your disks.
2. pick and choose which you'll take along, hoping you don't just happen to feel like playing that one thing you left behind.
3. Crack the CD check on all your games, which is of course, illegal these days...
 

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Frankster said:
Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
Every time someone says it doesn't work I've pulled my adapter out and tried it.
 

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Woodsey said:
Frankster said:
Woodsey said:
Is this forgetting offline mode, or is this taking issue with just having to run it through Steam (online or off)?
Try using steam with internet completely cut off, be ready for a nasty surprise.

"Offline" mode for steam is misleading because you need to be connected to the net for it to allow you to go offline xD
Not trying to disagree or agree with whatever point your making (does this even count as DRM?) but trying to correct a misgiving that offline steam is really 100% offline, was a bad thing to find out when my internet got cut off for a week...
Every time someone says it doesn't work I've pulled my adapter out and tried it.
Pulling it out actually resolves a lot of the problems people have, which are caused by it still thinking it half has a connection while not actually being able to reach anything over the network. Physically removing the ethernet cable (or shutting wireless off completely) sometimes convinces it that you really are not online, and it goes straight into offline mode instead of continuing to dick around some more.
 

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Just to chime in on the Steam offline mode thing: I have had a lot of issues with it myself. It works fine if I restart it in offline mode before I disconnect, then I can exit it and come back in offline mode and it's fine. If I don't do that though, then even though all my credentials are saved Steam just messes around for a minute or so and then tells me the connection has failed and I have to try again or start in offline mode. If I click offline mode it asks me to put in my user and password again and then complains that it can't authenticate.

I always say people praising Steam's offline mode like "Once you've saved your password then it works every time", but the simple truth is that it doesn't. Not for many people, at least.