Woah woah woah... Bonies?

[Thaluikhain]

Heh, I thought the headline said "bronies" as well, and that the thread would be full of people talking about MLP.

Oh, hang on...damn.

 

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When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is probably having an adverse effect on my brain.

Fine, Chrysalis is cool I'm not that attached to her to find it weird, Cadence is I don't really have any problems with, but she's kinda plain, I've got some alcohol about so there should be something to help get into clopping don't really consider myself a furry but I did get interested in a few pics, if only because they were girl on girl, ponies are still technically anthropomorphic and if you really want to hear about it I'll just fucking go ahead and do it, it'll probably be the same thing. On a related note, yes, I am drunk, very, very drunk.

Normally, being extremely drunk is a reason why you shouldn't post. Because you can stumble onto a forum and post stuff like this.

 

[BeeGeenie]

It could be worse, after all, at least they're not sparkly zombies.

 

[uchytjes]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is having an adverse effect on my brain.

Don't worry, you aren't alone in this. I jumped to the same conclusion expecting this to be another "seriously, bronies?" thread.

Well, on the topic of the whole "bonies" thing, its FICTION. Also, it kinda makes sense in a way. The thinner you get the easier it is to move around. if you were just skin and bones you could, theoretically, be pretty damn flexible.

 

[cerebreturns]

humans take time to adapt, meaning that they would hardly be "complete limits lifted+ intelligence" right after.

It could easily be reasoned that the following happens

1-death
2-realize you are not dead...horrible mental trauma
3-new way to perceive world, but no experience/understanding of those perceptions or personal capability
4-humans adapt quickly...you however are now dead and your brain is dying FAST, so you adapt slower
5-the longer you are alive the more you come to accept what has happened, the more you begin to understand just exactly what it is your body can and can not do.
6-there comes a point where all higher functioning stops and the lower functioning skills kick in, the things that drive people. Humans show great signs of strength and speed not when they are thinking about it, not when they have the willpower, but when adrenalin and basic instincts "LIVE, RUN, FIGHT" kick in.

I'm not saying that's the movies justification, but I am saying it is just as logical a reason as any.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

I'm just going by MovieBob's review, but this movie does include a large amount of campy themes (love conquers all obstacles, love is infections, it's never too late to love or regain oneself from the abyss, etc.).

Though it's true that a bone corpse is improbable of moving around, let along killing things, this movie is pretty much running on its own film logic. It wouldn't surprise me that once you go Bonie, you become a mean, lean, killing machine.

This is what I thought about Bonies...


In the TV Show Supernatural, they address the process for which a lingering spirit/ghost becoming into a vengeful, angry poltergeist. They will appear human before they died, and gradually begin to lose sense of self through years of loneliness and anger. Their spirit begins to rot away and decompose, like corpses do, and soon, they begin to prey on the living indiscriminately. So I can believe that a similar process can occur for zombies, on a supernatural level, of course, and not so much one cause by a virus.

 

[thejackyl]

It could be similar to the undead in Dark Souls... (Yes, I'm still talking about that. Deal)

Once someone in Lordran dies, they become undead. Still able to function and have coherent thought. The undead need souls in order to function this way. (Enemies drop it, merchants trade for it) and if they don't get enough souls they will eventually be driven insane and become "Hollow" and attack everything on sight. I also think that their undeath by itself eventually drives them mad as well.

Anyways, I thought this thread was going to be about how stupid of a name "Bonies" is. I mean seriously, they couldn't come up with a better name for them?

 

[Karelwolfpup]

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

I've also only watched Bob's review, but I think the problem is that you are trying to apply logic and science to a film where zombies are cured by the power of love. When the premise of the movie is "Romantic comedy with Zombies", I'm pretty sure you abandoned logic a long time ago =D

XD too true mate

 

[Karelwolfpup]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is having an adverse effect on my brain.

you know, I would have said something about your assumption, but I made something similar myself so... yeah...

 

[Jumpingbean3]

I remind you that this movie's main plot revolves around a zombie becoming human again because he fell in love.

 

[Karelwolfpup]

-snip-

As someone already mentioned, zombies aren't real. There are no set rules for how they work, and one explanation makes just as much sense as the other. Personally I like the idea of having a scrap of your humanity left, fighting the urge to go completely primal. Your theory relies on the body breaking down at a human pace and the humanity being completely gone from step 1. Well, what if it wasn't like that? What if muscular breakdown slows or stops because of zombie-itis? That would make sense, purely from a self-preservation standpoint. And surely something that turns you into the living dead would have a few other unhuman side-effects. What if they do keep a scrap of humanity? Your explanation is just as valid as anyone else's. And just because they didn't choose your explanation doesn't mean they are wrong.

I'm not so much suggesting that zombies may well be totally devoid of all human emotion or memory of same, there's been more than one movie which hints at the possibilities entailed in such concepts, it was the odd suggestion that a creature with no muscle tissue can somehow become a super predator of sorts. That was what most confused me tbh

 

[Karelwolfpup]

Just watched the "Warm Bodies" review by MovieBob, and something struck me as I listened.
The movie itself? well, yeah, we all know what it is and why it is. But what sort of mentally slapped me "up side da head" was the concept of "Bonies".
Aside from the name being a possible reference to the sort of thing you get on a long ride on a bus or from sitting on a washing machine going at full tilt, I don't understand the concept.

The way I saw a zombie was that when you first turned you were at your most dangerous; you've still got a capable human body just with all the limits turned off and the intelligence reduced to some feral state of primal hunger.
Yet the more it operates without the subconscious checks we put on our body to prevent us from damaging our bodies then the more quickly that body will breakdown. Muscles will tear, the nervous system wear itself out and even bones would break more easily with the constant movement without rest. Especially since zombies don't sleep, right? There's no point at which the body can heal itself naturally, so once a zombie hits that brick wall where its body is beyond repair and even basic operation then its just a husk that can't move.
Yet if this movie has it right, somehow after this point the body wastes away to become this bony killing machine...

How does that work? If the muscles and nervous system, and even bones, are broken... then how the hell can it do anything other than lie where it falls when its body becomes utterly useless?

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

I assumed from the thread title Bonies was a mixture of the words Boning and Ponies.

I was incorrect, this made me happy.

you and several others it would seem

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Has anyone else noticed that the guy from Warm Bodies looks almost identical to the new Dante in DmC?

I wonder what this means...

And about the Bonies, well, the fast movement speed and animalistic nature does seem to be the natural course for the evolution of the zombies in that movie.

Alternatively, it's cause of SPAEC MAGIC.

 

[Karelwolfpup]

humans take time to adapt, meaning that they would hardly be "complete limits lifted+ intelligence" right after.

It could easily be reasoned that the following happens

1-death
2-realize you are not dead...horrible mental trauma
3-new way to perceive world, but no experience/understanding of those perceptions or personal capability
4-humans adapt quickly...you however are now dead and your brain is dying FAST, so you adapt slower
5-the longer you are alive the more you come to accept what has happened, the more you begin to understand just exactly what it is your body can and can not do.
6-there comes a point where all higher functioning stops and the lower functioning skills kick in, the things that drive people. Humans show great signs of strength and speed not when they are thinking about it, not when they have the willpower, but when adrenalin and basic instincts "LIVE, RUN, FIGHT" kick in.

I'm not saying that's the movies justification, but I am saying it is just as logical a reason as any.

hmmm... I can see where you're coming from, and certainly the "Bonies" (God, something about that name seems odd to me XDD) tend to be more feral and primitive. I dunno, if I ever watch the movie I'll have to hope they explain it to me.

 

[Karelwolfpup]

Just watched the "Warm Bodies" review by MovieBob, and something struck me as I listened.
The movie itself? well, yeah, we all know what it is and why it is. But what sort of mentally slapped me "up side da head" was the concept of "Bonies".
Aside from the name being a possible reference to the sort of thing you get on a long ride on a bus or from sitting on a washing machine going at full tilt, I don't understand the concept.

The way I saw a zombie was that when you first turned you were at your most dangerous; you've still got a capable human body just with all the limits turned off and the intelligence reduced to some feral state of primal hunger.
Yet the more it operates without the subconscious checks we put on our body to prevent us from damaging our bodies then the more quickly that body will breakdown. Muscles will tear, the nervous system wear itself out and even bones would break more easily with the constant movement without rest. Especially since zombies don't sleep, right? There's no point at which the body can heal itself naturally, so once a zombie hits that brick wall where its body is beyond repair and even basic operation then its just a husk that can't move.
Yet if this movie has it right, somehow after this point the body wastes away to become this bony killing machine...

How does that work? If the muscles and nervous system, and even bones, are broken... then how the hell can it do anything other than lie where it falls when its body becomes utterly useless?

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

Zombies have always been completely scientifically implausible. There's pretty much no version of zombies that makes any sense. You're asking for scientific veracity from your ridiculous fictional monsters now?

true, they've always been implausible, but at least they usually tried to explain it or keep things consistent within their world. Considering there are two sets of zombies, one more Romero-esque and then the odd "Bonies" and I've seen no real explanation how either came about I can't help but feel confused. Where am I supposed to get a grip on that? Maybe I'm just too used to Romero style zombies, or maybe I am just thinking too much about it.
Probably both XD

 

[Dr. Cakey]

What about the zombies in I Am Legend? Those were Fast Zombies, weren't they? And they looked kinda like Bonies. Oh god that is really weird say. Type. Whatever.

 

[Karelwolfpup]

What about the zombies in I Am Legend? Those were Fast Zombies, weren't they? And they looked kinda like Bonies. Oh god that is really weird say. Type. Whatever.

not sure, but I think they were more mutants than zombies. I know there was something to do with a virus meant to cure cancer that sped up the human metabolism in those few who weren't immune or fatally killed by it, and they became the things in I Am Legend.

 

[kickyourass]

Have yet to see the movie, but if I understand it correctly when you first turn zombie you retain most of the control of your mental faculties but due to things like Rigor you have difficulty moving about. As you body rots, your brain rots along with it so you gradually lose the human side of your consciousness, but since your body isn't as constrained with all those dead stiff muscles and such, you become faster.
Presumably you eventually become either just an animal consciousness in a psycho fast, but ludicrously fragile skeleton, or you literally just fall apart. That's just an assumption though since I haven't seen the movie so I don't know exactly what kind of angle they're working from.

Not exactly the hardest of science but it's a zombie romantic comedy, were expecting accurate science?

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Oh god, not this shit again.

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS SANE AND PEACEFUL - NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN!

Spoiler: My reaction

OT: My brother is more than likely going to see this movie at a later date. I'll warn him in advance of this....ugh, terminology.