Wolverine's Claws
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How can he get adamantium poisonong like he did when the High Evolutionary and Mr. Sinister removed his healing factor if adamantium is indestructible? If it's indestructible then it shouldn't be able to leak into his blood.
No magic involved in Wolverine's mutation. Therefore, the blood would stay on whatever surface it stuck to, including the claws and the skin. Unskippable, being a humor feature, was making what is commonly referred to as a joke.Dracowrath said:
If Wolverine's older than Prof. X, it stands to reason part of his healing factor is immuno-defense.
False that is not how physics works, density does in no way equal indestructibility. Sometimes they are related, but there is no fundamentel law that relates them.Kaleion said:
I always thought of them as residing in his forearms. So while he was extending/retracting them, he'd have to keep his wrists basically straight.TheRightToArmBears said:
As for the swimming, his healing factor enhances his muscles, so I imagine they developed to compensate.
No, it can't be melted again. Lightsabers are implied to cut through anything (though light saber resistant materials exist in the Star Wars universe, such as Beskar, or Cortosis. Adamantium is stated clearly to be unbreakable. Defined, rather than implied, and there are no in-marvel examples of anything cutting through adamantium as far as I know. So I doubt a light saber would do it.Abandon4093 said:
I have a question for those who are more learned in marvel lore than me!
What's the limit to his regeneration? If wolverine was stuck at the bottom of a pit with no adamantium skeleton and a nice sharp tool, would he be able to make a mountain of limbs to climb?\
If so, where does all the mass come from?
What's the limit to his regeneration? If wolverine was stuck at the bottom of a pit with no adamantium skeleton and a nice sharp tool, would he be able to make a mountain of limbs to climb?\
If so, where does all the mass come from?
The regeneration has changed over the years, initially he only "healed fast" and could be taken out of a fight quite easily. His healing factor got a boost when the adamantium was removed by Magneto because the healing had been fighting the adamantium, but even then he took like days to heal from being badly gutted by a Wendigo. After he got the metal back, his healing factor still stayed quite good, it started to get more and more powerful to which in Civil War he surived being at the epicenter of a nuke (well sort of it was Nitro an exploding mutant). But that was later retconned as having a deathgoddess/spectre interefering with his life. So he is no longer at that level. So yeah it's whatever the writer wants at the time.bruggs said:
Without the skeleton he probably could make the mountain of limbs but it would probably take days and it's a poor choice to climbing out with his claws (they're bone underneath).
The mass come from the meat-dimension just like like Cyclop's beams come from the punch dimension (old internet joke).
I mean... It's probable that Wolverine has AIDS or some other diseases like that in his body. According to his Bio, he's immune to diseases. But he could very well be a carrier. The problem with Wolverine is the same problem I have with many other characters. Their powers can't be logically explained and measured. And even if you could, some other writer and artist will come and ret-con the whole thing and change it to "make more sense".
I mean think about the regenerating factor. He grew back from ONE cell. What would happen if more than 2 cells (separate by a great distance) survived? Would they grow back TWO wolverines? Would he grow back from just one and the other then... erm no? In one of the Xavier protocol to kill off his own X-men should the need arise he reccommends choppin' off his head. But if he can grow back from one cell (what's the point??). I'll tell you the problem. Different writers... They all come in and fuck the whole shit up.
Once I saw Wolvie fighting Hulk, when I saw a weird thing. He cut the Hulk skin. I told my friend (the comic owner) how could that be?? And he was like well duh, that Adamantium in his bones. And I was like "But this is a post-Magneto incident" "He has just his BONE claws (no Adamantium plating)". And my friend said (without a pause) yeah well, he lived so long with his Adamantium in his body that his bone structure absorbed some of the properties of the metal thus becoming indestructible (he used another lingo but it's the same thing). And I was like... Ok... Then it hit me. My friend was the same as the new writer taking over his predecessor. Just taking the shit he wanted/assumed he wanted to keep and re-work everything else.
Did you know in his original appereance in Hulk, Wolvie was a regular hit man with ADAMANTIUM GLOVES that had some claws. Neither the claws or the regeneration/healing factor were part of his character just yet. Oh and supposedly (even tho' his face was covered by his mask) he was supposed to be young looking and almost hairless. He was later changed when the character proved to be popular.
I mean think about the regenerating factor. He grew back from ONE cell. What would happen if more than 2 cells (separate by a great distance) survived? Would they grow back TWO wolverines? Would he grow back from just one and the other then... erm no? In one of the Xavier protocol to kill off his own X-men should the need arise he reccommends choppin' off his head. But if he can grow back from one cell (what's the point??). I'll tell you the problem. Different writers... They all come in and fuck the whole shit up.
Once I saw Wolvie fighting Hulk, when I saw a weird thing. He cut the Hulk skin. I told my friend (the comic owner) how could that be?? And he was like well duh, that Adamantium in his bones. And I was like "But this is a post-Magneto incident" "He has just his BONE claws (no Adamantium plating)". And my friend said (without a pause) yeah well, he lived so long with his Adamantium in his body that his bone structure absorbed some of the properties of the metal thus becoming indestructible (he used another lingo but it's the same thing). And I was like... Ok... Then it hit me. My friend was the same as the new writer taking over his predecessor. Just taking the shit he wanted/assumed he wanted to keep and re-work everything else.
Did you know in his original appereance in Hulk, Wolvie was a regular hit man with ADAMANTIUM GLOVES that had some claws. Neither the claws or the regeneration/healing factor were part of his character just yet. Oh and supposedly (even tho' his face was covered by his mask) he was supposed to be young looking and almost hairless. He was later changed when the character proved to be popular.
Purely dependent on how popular he is at the time, as with all superheroes. As he's gotten more popular he can now walk through nukes and survive, where as you go back and he'd have to take a day off to heal a bullet wound.bruggs said:
Although I believe he's always been immune to diseases, and was actually deliberately infected with the anti-mutant plague so he created a cure for it (from the 90s cartoon).
wow... this one has me thinking... i would say so... A lightsaber which can melt anything except another one of itself... or those spear thingies from the third movie for some reason should (albeit slowly) be able to cut through his claws it might just take a little longer.Abandon4093 said:
Oh, I remember that one. Good 'sode. Anyway...Dracowrath said:
My guess is that he doesn't ever get wiped clean in fullness. Microscopic whatevers will atill cling to the blades anyway. But GOOD NEWS, EVERYBODY! Logan will be just fine. His healing factor does indeed protect him from all forms of pathogens. It even created the antidote to the mutant plague introduced by Apocalypse. Wolverine's body is of course very much like Deadpool's, who has the factor weighed against aggressive cancer. You could probably find the cure for AIDS in those two.
It's not really that cheap if you take a long look at it. Lets say it can melt. But if it does inded have a melting point it's up there with the temperatures of a star or an atom bomb. On one ocaison Wolverine was flung into the sun in a spaceship with Jean Grey, he killed her to spare the suffering but eventually she was reborn and saved them both. But for a while Wolverine was surviving intensely high temperates (and gravity) and the metal wasn't melting. Not to mention he was at the epicenter of a nuclear blast without it melting. So a lightsaber might have to match that sort of temp to even think about melting it.Abandon4093 said:
But even if they did, then you have to hold the blade to the adamantium long enough for it to start heating up, that's something Wolverine's going to make difficult. Even then lets say he can't move. The adamantium is likely going to transfer that intense heat into his body which is going to constantly heal, so in a way his muscles and blood are going to act like a heatsink. So the question is can the light-saber impart heat faster than he can dissipate it throughout his body and enough for the adamantium to heat to whatever high temp it has? Even if it can produce a positive amount of heat how long will that take? Weeks?
On paper it's incredibly unlikely that it could cut through adamantium. That said it's unnecessary if a force wielder wanted to kill him they could probably cut between the gaps in his spine to decapitate him or stab him through the heart.