Will you also be yelling WELL REGULATED or will you be ignoring that part?Leg End said:I'm also taking a nap before I am compelled to start screaming SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED at the top of my lungs in text form over and over until I pass out.
Will you also be yelling WELL REGULATED or will you be ignoring that part?Leg End said:I'm also taking a nap before I am compelled to start screaming SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED at the top of my lungs in text form over and over until I pass out.
Read the following image. Not the point you're attempting to argue, but still provides an understanding of what Well Regulated means and kills the State Militia argument as well.TechNoFear said:Will you also be yelling WELL REGULATED or will you be ignoring that part?
To match the punctuation of the 2nd amendment it should read;Leg End said:Read the following image.
It uses the text as ratified by the states.TechNoFear said:To match the punctuation of the 2nd amendment it should read
Eh, I understood "bear arms" to mean military service, not merely possessing weapons. In which case restrictions on military service are unconstitutional.Leg End said:Read the following image. Not the point you're attempting to argue, but still provides an understanding of what Well Regulated means and kills the State Militia argument as well.
Okay, let's relax it there with the death penalty bit.s3cur1tr0n said:Of course she should be put in jail. If the he shot her, this wouldn't even be a question..... Furthermore she should get the death penalty so those genes are removed from the pool.
Certainly not to her or her family. The problem with laws is you can't make exceptions. Not without making some new laws or amendments anyway. If there's anything positive to be gleaned from this, hopefully this will prevent some family in the future from making the same mistake. I've got my fingers crossed there.Saelune said:I still dont think putting her in jail will serve any positive purpose.Happyninja42 said:Reckless Endangerment of a minor (shooting a gun near one); Discharging a firearm in a residential area (most places have laws against that, depending on where they were simply standing, she might've broken a law); Involuntary Manslaughter (acknowledges the accidental, but doesn't mean you get off without punishment), Firing the gun without a license (not sure if she's licensed or not, given it was the guy's idea, I'm guessing he was the gun owner, so she might not even be legal to shoot it.Saelune said:From what is known so far, I dont think she should go to jail. I'd imagine all the other consequences of the failed stunt will be more than sufficient punishment. Loss of a partner, child likely messed up, etc.
There are a myriad of laws that she likely broke, regardless of if she intended to kill him or not.
The law makes exceptions all the time. Its kind of why we have Juries. Every time a cop gets away with killing someone for example.sageoftruth said:Certainly not to her or her family. The problem with laws is you can't make exceptions. Not without making some new laws or amendments anyway. If there's anything positive to be gleaned from this, hopefully this will prevent some family in the future from making the same mistake. I've got my fingers crossed there.Saelune said:I still dont think putting her in jail will serve any positive purpose.Happyninja42 said:Reckless Endangerment of a minor (shooting a gun near one); Discharging a firearm in a residential area (most places have laws against that, depending on where they were simply standing, she might've broken a law); Involuntary Manslaughter (acknowledges the accidental, but doesn't mean you get off without punishment), Firing the gun without a license (not sure if she's licensed or not, given it was the guy's idea, I'm guessing he was the gun owner, so she might not even be legal to shoot it.Saelune said:From what is known so far, I dont think she should go to jail. I'd imagine all the other consequences of the failed stunt will be more than sufficient punishment. Loss of a partner, child likely messed up, etc.
There are a myriad of laws that she likely broke, regardless of if she intended to kill him or not.
Well, I certainly feel foolish right now, especially considering I work in an office that's full of lawyers. I ran your argument by one of them and the law is as malleable as you stated. I'll make a point to check with them next time I decide to spout off about the law.Saelune said:The law makes exceptions all the time. Its kind of why we have Juries. Every time a cop gets away with killing someone for example.sageoftruth said:Certainly not to her or her family. The problem with laws is you can't make exceptions. Not without making some new laws or amendments anyway. If there's anything positive to be gleaned from this, hopefully this will prevent some family in the future from making the same mistake. I've got my fingers crossed there.Saelune said:I still dont think putting her in jail will serve any positive purpose.Happyninja42 said:Reckless Endangerment of a minor (shooting a gun near one); Discharging a firearm in a residential area (most places have laws against that, depending on where they were simply standing, she might've broken a law); Involuntary Manslaughter (acknowledges the accidental, but doesn't mean you get off without punishment), Firing the gun without a license (not sure if she's licensed or not, given it was the guy's idea, I'm guessing he was the gun owner, so she might not even be legal to shoot it.Saelune said:From what is known so far, I dont think she should go to jail. I'd imagine all the other consequences of the failed stunt will be more than sufficient punishment. Loss of a partner, child likely messed up, etc.
There are a myriad of laws that she likely broke, regardless of if she intended to kill him or not.
And I really doubt it will prevent anything.
Dont feel foolish. You went and double-checked and accepted you were wrong about something.sageoftruth said:Well, I certainly feel foolish right now, especially considering I work in an office that's full of lawyers. I ran your argument by one of them and the law is as malleable as you stated. I'll make a point to check with them next time I decide to spout off about the law.Saelune said:The law makes exceptions all the time. Its kind of why we have Juries. Every time a cop gets away with killing someone for example.sageoftruth said:Certainly not to her or her family. The problem with laws is you can't make exceptions. Not without making some new laws or amendments anyway. If there's anything positive to be gleaned from this, hopefully this will prevent some family in the future from making the same mistake. I've got my fingers crossed there.Saelune said:I still dont think putting her in jail will serve any positive purpose.Happyninja42 said:Reckless Endangerment of a minor (shooting a gun near one); Discharging a firearm in a residential area (most places have laws against that, depending on where they were simply standing, she might've broken a law); Involuntary Manslaughter (acknowledges the accidental, but doesn't mean you get off without punishment), Firing the gun without a license (not sure if she's licensed or not, given it was the guy's idea, I'm guessing he was the gun owner, so she might not even be legal to shoot it.Saelune said:From what is known so far, I dont think she should go to jail. I'd imagine all the other consequences of the failed stunt will be more than sufficient punishment. Loss of a partner, child likely messed up, etc.
There are a myriad of laws that she likely broke, regardless of if she intended to kill him or not.
And I really doubt it will prevent anything.
True. If anything, thanks for pointing out my mistake.Saelune said:Dont feel foolish. You went and double-checked and accepted you were wrong about something.sageoftruth said:Well, I certainly feel foolish right now, especially considering I work in an office that's full of lawyers. I ran your argument by one of them and the law is as malleable as you stated. I'll make a point to check with them next time I decide to spout off about the law.Saelune said:The law makes exceptions all the time. Its kind of why we have Juries. Every time a cop gets away with killing someone for example.sageoftruth said:Certainly not to her or her family. The problem with laws is you can't make exceptions. Not without making some new laws or amendments anyway. If there's anything positive to be gleaned from this, hopefully this will prevent some family in the future from making the same mistake. I've got my fingers crossed there.Saelune said:I still dont think putting her in jail will serve any positive purpose.Happyninja42 said:Reckless Endangerment of a minor (shooting a gun near one); Discharging a firearm in a residential area (most places have laws against that, depending on where they were simply standing, she might've broken a law); Involuntary Manslaughter (acknowledges the accidental, but doesn't mean you get off without punishment), Firing the gun without a license (not sure if she's licensed or not, given it was the guy's idea, I'm guessing he was the gun owner, so she might not even be legal to shoot it.Saelune said:From what is known so far, I dont think she should go to jail. I'd imagine all the other consequences of the failed stunt will be more than sufficient punishment. Loss of a partner, child likely messed up, etc.
There are a myriad of laws that she likely broke, regardless of if she intended to kill him or not.
And I really doubt it will prevent anything.
And its not like I am a trained lawyer, I just happened to be observant about something.