Words that gamers use that make you CRINGE!

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limberer

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"Overpowered" usually when used in mmo's pvp. just peoples way of diverting from the fact that someone can beat them by blaming their loss on a particular ability.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Alot of words get thrown around too much by gamers, which ones bother you the most? For me it's:

- Entitled (It's normal for a business to be greedy but a customer wanting to get his money worth is entitled)
- Immersion (must be those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games, I want no part of that)
Although no certain words were used that make me cringe, the OP has done the gamer thing of writing your opinions on any game related stuff as facts. Just a completely arrogant thing to do.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
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Yeah, I got sick of being beat over the head with "games are art, you can't criticize them" real damn quick. My response: "Ok, let Bioware be starving artists."
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Yeah, that last bit I never understood. If they are art, shouldn't I be allowed to criticize them? You know, like critics of other mediums do? It amazes me with people sometimes.
Gamers who misquote and generalize an entire movement based on a few morons who speak in their corner.

Yeah, I FUCKING HATE THAT!
Hmm, maybe you could show me where I generalized a whole movement? I said that:

I got sick of being beat over the head with "games are art, you can't criticize them" real damn quick.

I didn't say everyone says that.
No you didn't. But I still hate it when people use that line when supporting the idea of Art as an insufferable topic.
People say it and I hate when people say it and yes, it's made people sick to death of hearing about "games are art". Still not saying that everyone says it, just saying that those who do say it are frustrating many people.
That's fine, all I was doing was selecting your quote, adding a bit of personal frustration from an argument I had before and decided that was the most aggravating thing I've ever had to deal with on this site.

Nothing personal really. But every time I see that line, regardless of context, I see red.
It's all good.

To avoid a low content warning (it really is ridiculous that I can't just leave it at "it's all good"): Let me just say that art really is a meaningless word considering that art is based on ones own opinion. I don't consider someone splashing paint on a canvas to be art but there are people who do.
 

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'pl0x' and 'teh' irritate me the most. I am concerned about the people that use these terms along with leet speak as they think they are cool but just show themselves up as plain retarded.
 

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Midgeamoo said:
Crono1973 said:
Alot of words get thrown around too much by gamers, which ones bother you the most? For me it's:

- Entitled (It's normal for a business to be greedy but a customer wanting to get his money worth is entitled)
- Immersion (must be those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games, I want no part of that)
Although no certain words were used that make me cringe, the OP has done the gamer thing of writing your opinions on any game related stuff as facts. Just a completely arrogant thing to do.
Really? Where did I say that I was stating facts? Those are my opinions.
 

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I am on board with hating the use of the word 'rape'. This is the most single horrible thing one person can do to another. Not a replacement for 'I just kicked your butt'. Not only that but it is horribly triggering to people who have survived it and just plain crude.

I also dislike 'gay' or related words being used to mean something bad. Sorry, there is nothing bad about being gay in any definition of the word. Say what you mean, not what makes you sound like a homophobic idiot.

In general I dislike any discriminatory slang terms used against people, whether it be about sexuality, race, religion, abelism, sexism... whatever. If that's all you can think of to insult someone, then you have failed.
 

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Midgeamoo said:
Crono1973 said:
Alot of words get thrown around too much by gamers, which ones bother you the most? For me it's:

- Entitled (It's normal for a business to be greedy but a customer wanting to get his money worth is entitled)
- Immersion (must be those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games, I want no part of that)
Although no certain words were used that make me cringe, the OP has done the gamer thing of writing your opinions on any game related stuff as facts. Just a completely arrogant thing to do.
Hey, man, why are you writing your opinion on the OP as a fact? Don't you know you might rustle some jimmies if you don't include "IMO" in every sentence?
 

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limberer said:
"Overpowered" usually when used in mmo's pvp. just peoples way of diverting from the fact that someone can beat them by blaming their loss on a particular ability.
WORSE! Overpowered or imbalanced when referring to a single player game BUT referring to player made input (weapon choice, stat allocation, unit selection etc.)

How is something Overpowered or Imbalanced when not in a competitive setting?!
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
limberer said:
"Overpowered" usually when used in mmo's pvp. just peoples way of diverting from the fact that someone can beat them by blaming their loss on a particular ability.
WORSE! Overpowered or imbalanced when referring to a single player game BUT referring to player made input (weapon choice, stat allocation, unit selection etc.)

How is something Overpowered or Imbalanced when not in a competitive setting?!
When it harms singleplayer game balance?
 

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The words gamers use that make me cringe have already been covered.

But do you know what word games themselves use that upsets me? Decimate. Because they keep. Using. It. Wrong.

I'm not a fan, but this clip from Doctor Who sums it up pretty well and made me very happy.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
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I hope it never does BECAUSE Entitled is not insult, its a word that is more or less a term for smart consumers who knows what he was promised or told he would get. You can't turn Nice into a insult, the same goes for this.
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/facepalm

Please explain your reasoning behind this...
Entitlement: What is owed to a consumer after purchase. It's a noun, and used constantly incorrectly.

Entitled to X: In a state of which you purchased X, and it now belongs to you.

Sense of Entitlement: The state of mind where one feels that something belongs to them.

False Sense of Entitlement: The INCORRECT state of mind where one feels that something belongs to them.

The last one, False Sense of Entitlement, is what people typically mean to say when they say "too many gamers are entitled". Gamers who buy their games ARE entitled to them, by law and common sense. If a consumer buys a game and expects to have a game that can be played and completed, they have a valid sense of entitlement. If a consumer buys a game and expects all the $10 expansion packs for free, they have a false sense of entitlement.

See the difference?
 

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Crono1973 said:
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- Immersion (must be those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games, I want no part of that)
Except it isn't. Immersion is feeling like you are in the game, not spending hours playing it. Most people who like immersion like it because they also like RPGs, specifically the roleplaying part, not because they are bad parents. That is a ridiculous suggestion.
Immersion is what people typing it want it to mean.

Like "mounted combat in Skyrim was needed, it was killing immersion". Someone actually typed that. If you can identify a missing feature and claim it's killing immersion then it's not immersion, that's called over analyzing and guessing. How the fuck can anyone know what's killing immersion if it was never in the game in the first place. Maybe it's because the mounted combat in Oblivion was so awesome? Did they expect Zelda quality mounted combat from Bethesda? After the terrible horseback riding in Oblivion that most people avoided once they tried it!

Immersion is on my list of words that make me cringe because people throw it around too much making it meaningless. Oh and yes, if you are so into a game that your kid starves or drowns, that's immersion!
In that context it is stupid, yes, but that doesn't make the word cringeworthy whenever its used. It's perfectly valid to say, I enjoy x game because I can get really immersed in it, it feels like a real world. Although possibly with dragons. It's like saying the word sausage is dirty. It can be, but only when used in that way, not everyone who says sausage is making a dick joke. The same can be applied to immersion. If someone says, "not being able to kill children is breaking the immersion," they may well be the kind of person you described, but that doesn't mean everyone who ever uses the word is like that.
You want to go through and tell everyone else that what THEY consider cringe worthy, actually isn't?

It's called an opinion. I think the word is overused and misused and therefore I cringe when I see someone type it.
That's not what I intended to say, and I apologise if it came out that way. My problem is your original generalisation that immersion is for "those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games," is untrue and rude. I know plenty of people who like immersion, myself among them, who are perfectly normal people, and I don't like being grouped with those people just because I like something.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Ragsnstitches said:
limberer said:
"Overpowered" usually when used in mmo's pvp. just peoples way of diverting from the fact that someone can beat them by blaming their loss on a particular ability.
WORSE! Overpowered or imbalanced when referring to a single player game BUT referring to player made input (weapon choice, stat allocation, unit selection etc.)

How is something Overpowered or Imbalanced when not in a competitive setting?!
When it harms singleplayer game balance?
The terms are irrelevant when the player is the one abusing them.

First of all, there is no victim or person who suffers from abusing such things. Essentially, the objective of any game, is to overpower obstacles and enemies. Claiming a weapon YOU CHOOSE or a piece of armor YOU CHOOSE is overpowered in a single player game is like saying "why are you letting me win?"

The reason why it CAN be relevant in multiplayer, is because of deliberate exploitation of any given weapon/mechanic/glitch etc. that can spoil a match and sour victories. In single player, you, the player are the one instigating the exploit... most games have enough variety in tools, units or weapons for you to actively avoid overpowered builds, so complaining that you are using them is kind of pointless. It's self inflicted.

But shouldn't the developers be blamed for not considering the impact the weapons have on the balance of the game? Well...

Balance is related to the topic of difficulty in Single Player games. What's the biggest crux of difficulty? That different people find different things have different levels of difficulty. It's impossible to manage a decent difficulty system that caters for wide audiences, short of a smorgasboard of difficulty sliders which don't really exist anymore and were generally ignored in preference of Defaults.

It doesn't matter what game it is, some people will find certain enemies too strong, certain areas too hard to navigate, objectives too hard to complete etc. There also only so much a developer can do with adjustments to damage output and HP or resource rates.

So what you might consider an OP weapon, another might see it as a godsend in a pinch.

That said, I'm not excusing poor development, but at a certain point these complaints are just nitpicking. If the game offers you something that you consider gamebreaking, it doesn't mean that you actually have to use it (more often then not). As far as I'm concerned, the BFGs and Mammoth tanks of gaming are equalizers for people who struggle... I will stick with my rocket jumps and infantry rushers to keep things fresh.
 

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DJjaffacake said:
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- Immersion (must be those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games, I want no part of that)
Except it isn't. Immersion is feeling like you are in the game, not spending hours playing it. Most people who like immersion like it because they also like RPGs, specifically the roleplaying part, not because they are bad parents. That is a ridiculous suggestion.
Immersion is what people typing it want it to mean.

Like "mounted combat in Skyrim was needed, it was killing immersion". Someone actually typed that. If you can identify a missing feature and claim it's killing immersion then it's not immersion, that's called over analyzing and guessing. How the fuck can anyone know what's killing immersion if it was never in the game in the first place. Maybe it's because the mounted combat in Oblivion was so awesome? Did they expect Zelda quality mounted combat from Bethesda? After the terrible horseback riding in Oblivion that most people avoided once they tried it!

Immersion is on my list of words that make me cringe because people throw it around too much making it meaningless. Oh and yes, if you are so into a game that your kid starves or drowns, that's immersion!
In that context it is stupid, yes, but that doesn't make the word cringeworthy whenever its used. It's perfectly valid to say, I enjoy x game because I can get really immersed in it, it feels like a real world. Although possibly with dragons. It's like saying the word sausage is dirty. It can be, but only when used in that way, not everyone who says sausage is making a dick joke. The same can be applied to immersion. If someone says, "not being able to kill children is breaking the immersion," they may well be the kind of person you described, but that doesn't mean everyone who ever uses the word is like that.
You want to go through and tell everyone else that what THEY consider cringe worthy, actually isn't?

It's called an opinion. I think the word is overused and misused and therefore I cringe when I see someone type it.
That's not what I intended to say, and I apologise if it came out that way. My problem is your original generalisation that immersion is for "those people who tie their kids up/let them starve while they play video games," is untrue and rude. I know plenty of people who like immersion, myself among them, who are perfectly normal people, and I don't like being grouped with those people just because I like something.
You're already grouped with those people in a variety of ways. They play games, you play games, your might be the same gender, etc..
 

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The phrase "try hard" should be removed from multiplayer vernacular. It is just a pathetic excuse people use to justify getting their asses handed to them.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
Kahunaburger said:
Ragsnstitches said:
limberer said:
"Overpowered" usually when used in mmo's pvp. just peoples way of diverting from the fact that someone can beat them by blaming their loss on a particular ability.
WORSE! Overpowered or imbalanced when referring to a single player game BUT referring to player made input (weapon choice, stat allocation, unit selection etc.)

How is something Overpowered or Imbalanced when not in a competitive setting?!
When it harms singleplayer game balance?
The terms are irrelevant when the player is the one abusing them.

First of all, there is no victim or person who suffers from abusing such things. Essentially, the objective of any game, is to overpower obstacles and enemies. Claiming a weapon YOU CHOOSE or a piece of armor YOU CHOOSE is overpowered in a single player game is like saying "why are you letting me win?"
It's more: "why aren't you giving me a legitimately challenging experience?" There's a specific type of praise that games get that's a mark of good balance - hard but fair. The type of game that gets this praise is a game that expects and requires the player to use every available resource to win, and doesn't unreasonably tip the difficulty either for or against the player.

Many games essentially punish the player for finding an optimal solution to a problem by removing interesting challenges. "Hard but fair" games, on the other hand, allow a player to find creative or optimal solutions to the games' challenges without throwing challenge out of the window.

Compare alchemy in Elder Scrolls and Witcher 1. In the recent Elder Scrolls games, Alchemy is essentially the "I win" button. The game, of course, doesn't tell the player this, and there's no indication the developers intended alchemy to trivialize every challenge in the game. This means that players who want a challenge and spec alchemy without knowing that it is a completely unbalanced option will be unpleasantly surprised, and players that would like to play an Elder Scrolls game as an alchemist, make creative and optimal alchemy recipies, and still be challenged will need to install a mod or ten to fix the content that Bethesda broke. In Witcher 1, on the other hand, harder difficulties require the player to effectively use their alchemical toolkit against challenges, and mechanics like poisoning keep the alchemical system balanced. The result is a game where you can A) play an alchemist, B) pick optimal potions, and C) be challenged, all at the same time.

In other words, I'd rather play a chess program than play Kirby's Epic Yarn with a lot of self-imposed rules.
 

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Even fully speced in alchemy in Elder Scrolls, potions only become OP if you TRY to make them that way.

Having 100 in alchemy and all perks doesn't just make alchemy unbalanced.

It is similar to enchanting, it is only unbalanced if you purposefully do it that way.