World of Tanks Suffers Security Breach

JaceArveduin

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Devoneaux said:
Gold ammo?
Nope, you can get those with the ingame credits now, been like that for several months. You, however, forgot about how they sell tanks. Some of them are OP, some of them are trash, and almost every time it's hilarious to watch a noob show up in their shiny high tiered tank, just to get rolled because they don't know how the game works.
 

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Charcharo said:
JaceArveduin said:
Devoneaux said:
Gold ammo?
Nope, you can get those with the ingame credits now, been like that for several months. You, however, forgot about how they sell tanks. Some of them are OP, some of them are trash, and almost every time it's hilarious to watch a noob show up in their shiny high tiered tank, just to get rolled because they don't know how the game works.
Again false :p . These tanks are not OP. They are always worse than a same tiered normal tank, only exception being the Type 59, which is almost equal to a same tier tank.
Depends on which tank. Unless I'm mistaken, the T59 has some of the most ridiculous armor in the game for it's type (lots of slopin, iirc) Then there's the T127, say what you want, but with it's MM spread, that thing's a monster in the hands of anyone that knows to put the front end towards the enemy.

Can't remember exactly how the Lowe Matches up, I tend to stay in the lower ranks, but I know the Churchie's part of a rock paper scissors with the KV1 and that one US heavy. Let's see... the t2 US light tank thing is pretty beastly for it's rank... Now that I think about it, the higher tiered the tank, the crappier it is compared to a fully equipped normal tank xD
 

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StewShearer said:
To help motivate players to reset their passwords and do it quickly, Wargaming is hosting a "Change Your Password Event."

"In order to improve security and maintain account integrity for all of our players, Wargaming is supplying a one-time installment of 300 gold to each player that successfully updates their account password," said Wargaming in an announcement. "While we do support the regular updating of your account password, your account is only eligible for one payment."
Other developers and publishers should take notice of this. This is how you spin a massive hacking incident into positive PR for your game. Take notes, there will be be a quiz and....

Damnit, Sony, stop sitting in the back of the class and drooling all over your desk! You especially should be paying attention.
The two $30 games (at the time) sitting on my PS3 drive tell me that they already passed the test.

I don't recall Microsoft giving anything away when they were hacked. Or Steam for that matter. Yet I recall Origin giving a couple games away when THEY were hacked.

Just saying.
When Sony got hacked, their servers were down for almost a month, so no one could even use PSN. So really, you'd expect some compensation.
 

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The Type 59 is not that armoured. It has 100mm of armour at 60 degrees which is pretty much 180mm at tier 8. Good for a medium tank, but penetrable, especially if we take into account the overmatching rules that happen at 200+ penetration. 203, 225 and 248 penetration guns on the Panther 2, Tiger 2/IS-3/KV-4 and T34 respectively will tear it down fast. Super Pershing has a lot more armour for its tier. Still, the Type 59 is unique in that it is quite good for a premium tank, almost as much as a normal tier 8 med.
As for the Lowe, well it is not a bad tank, just not even close to a King TIger or the VK 4502A
Now the Churchill 3 Lend-Lease for the USSR is a good tank, but honestly, upgraded tier 5 heavies will be noticabley better. It playes rock-paper scissors with the T14 though.
As for those low tier tanks... well I do not know for the T0127, i really do not. However, Tetrarch, 38H and T2 light tank have higher matchmaker spread than the normal tanks.
Well, for the T59, I meant it's sloping, it does bounce a lot, right?

Actually the lower tiered premium tanks usually get a good spread (when they're solo*) I've never seen a tetrarch in a t4 match and it's got a massive gun if memory serves, and the Valentine never sees t5s. t127 never sees above t4. Basically, under t5 (that I know of) will never see a tank two tiers above them so long as they're solo.
 

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Korten12 said:
You mean the Sony that gave people free games and free ps+ for compensation?
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
The two $30 games (at the time) sitting on my PS3 drive tell me that they already passed the test.
I knew people would jump on this line. Unfortunately for you, I also had an irrefutable reply prepared for this occasion:

Yes, they did give away free games after the hack. But it was a month after the fact, and that was only after people pointed out how their initial offer (a "free trial" of their paid service, which felt more like an attempt to sell their paid subscription service instead of an actual apology) was an absolutely terrible one. Heck, it took them nearly a week to admit they had been hacked at all, and it wasn't until about two weeks after the initial hack that they admitted personal data had been stolen. In other words, they were the living incarnation of Slowpoke.

World of Tanks, by comparison, did it right: Within days of the hack, they reported it to their customers, and they had immediate plans for compensation in the form of a promotion that actually compensates the users directly and immediately simply for changing their passwords.

That's the difference: response time. If you respond too slowly to a disgruntled customer, it doesn't matter how nice the apology is or how many goodies you sweeten it with, they're going to consider moving on. Sony didn't understand this and thought they were "too big to fail". But now they're getting a reality check in the marketplace, as the Sony hack is still a stain on their reputation as they struggle to battle back against encroaching competition in virtually every major market they're invested in.

You can argue all you like about how they've apologized to you and you've forgiven them for it and blah blah blah. I don't particularly care. But you can't refute the simple fact that their response time to the incident was exceedingly slow, and that the entire incident was very poorly dealt with in general. Sony demonstrated precisely how not to respond to a major hacking job: Deny that it happened at all or that any critical data was stolen, only to later admit that it HAD been stolen, and then take months to apologize to your consumers properly.
How could they? Unlike Tanks, their servers were down. You can't give them free games the day after if they wouldn't even be able to get on the servers to download them in the first place! It's unreasonable to expect compensation the day after when they could do nothing to compenstate until PSN was back up.

Unless you expected Sony to wave a wand and magically give everyone free games to download through a mysterious second service...
 

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Can't complain, that 300 gold just paid the remainder of my 6.1mil for my t10.
Mine'll likely go to garage slots the next sale they have, unless they put one of the tiny prems on sale, in which case I'll probably buy one of those.
 

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Kinda happy I jumped on to the escapist today. I just got the game and I love it, even though everything after Tier II is WAY over priced.
 

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Jesse Billingsley said:
Kinda happy I jumped on to the escapist today. I just got the game and I love it, even though everything after Tier II is WAY over priced.
lol, how far in are you? Because about tier IV/V, you hit a veritable brick wall on XP. It's not all that bad though, because the extra time helps you learn what roles do what and how the game works in general. That, and the lower tiered matches can be just as, if not more, fun as the higher tiered ones.

For the record: My most-played tanks are T127 (got it free from some promo ages ago) T50, and my M7 Medium. Tiers 3/4/5 respectively, and I still have a blast. Though I've had less fun lately in my t127 due to all the golds flying around.
 

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JaceArveduin said:
Jesse Billingsley said:
Kinda happy I jumped on to the escapist today. I just got the game and I love it, even though everything after Tier II is WAY over priced.
lol, how far in are you? Because about tier IV/V, you hit a veritable brick wall on XP. It's not all that bad though, because the extra time helps you learn what roles do what and how the game works in general. That, and the lower tiered matches can be just as, if not more, fun as the higher tiered ones.
I have a Marauder II right now. Still learning though.
 

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Korten12 said:
How could they? Unlike Tanks, their servers were down. You can't give them free games the day after if they wouldn't even be able to get on the servers to download them in the first place! It's unreasonable to expect compensation the day after when they could do nothing to compenstate until PSN was back up.

Unless you expected Sony to wave a wand and magically give everyone free games to download through a mysterious second service...
You should read the posts you quote more carefully.

I never said they had to give the people free games the very instant that the servers went down. You made that straw-man up because you didn't have a response to my actual point: that Sony's response was handled in just about the poorest fashion of any major company in the last several years.

They denied the hack had even occurred initially. Then they said it did happen, but no personal information was stolen....which they later corrected to mean "lots of personal data was stolen" about two weeks after the hack. Easy to see how they might confuse those two things, right?

They finally admit to the breach and offer people a "free trial" of their subscription service....which was, to be honest, a pathetic attempt to sell more people a subscription to a service that had just proven itself unreliable. It was only after people complained about that offer that Sony begrudgingly threw in free games. They didn't do it out of the kindness of their hearts, that's for certain. They did it because they saw the response to the previous offer and knew it wouldn't be enough.

It's really quite adorable that there are people who still try to defend Sony as having dealt with the issue properly when in fact they're a textbook example of how not to respond to this sort of security issue.
And your mistaken, but good thinking I thought Sony handled it well. Despite having already stated I didn't think they handled it well. No point in arguing with someone who apparently also doesn't read my posts.

Also does it really matter if they feel good about it? If it feels genuine? If you honestly expected Sony to feel great for having to give out free games than you don't understand companies and their feelings to consumers. Did you want them to send a card to your house saying how sorry they were with a sad face?

The dev's behind World of Tanks didn't do this out of the kindness of their hearts, they did it because it was the logical thing to do so that the backlash would be lessened.
 

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300 gold isn't bad. Heck I would have changed my password just to protect my favorite tanks that I tricked out to elite status or my tier 5 and 6 tanks.