Worst Protagonists.
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a) I am a scientist,
b) I wear (safety) glasses in the labs,
c) I *could* have the "gayest chuck norris beard rip off in the world", if I wanted to grow it that way,
d) I *could* make myself a lame ass lookin suit of armour - if I could be bothered to waste my time doing so.
I think I found the reason I like Half-Life so much.
Hated Marcus Fenix in Gears.
b) I wear (safety) glasses in the labs,
c) I *could* have the "gayest chuck norris beard rip off in the world", if I wanted to grow it that way,
d) I *could* make myself a lame ass lookin suit of armour - if I could be bothered to waste my time doing so.
I think I found the reason I like Half-Life so much.
Hated Marcus Fenix in Gears.
Dispite his billion dollar empire, I would have to say that Mario is one of the worst protagonists in video game history. Come on, he's a plumber! What is that supposed to reprsent? Joe everyman? And why is the princess into him? If I was the princess (like in my dreams!), I would be gratefull to anyone who rescued me from Bowsers firey castles. But then again, P. Toadstool hangs out with a bunch of mushroom people anyway. Maybe in her universe a man who plumbs is king in the land of pipes.
I gotta agree with the Gordon-bashing here, him being silent doesn't really make you feel like the character just as a movie without dialogue wouldn't make you feel for the characters (someone explain to me how a character is supposed to emote, and thus be empathetic, if we never see their opinion or hear what they think?).
Worst protaganist has to be either Leon from Resi 4 or Harrison from AVP2.
Leon by far is the most unintentionally emo character I have seen in a game, think about it...he has the haircut, laments over a long lost (previously thought dead) love while denyiny a potentially sexual offer from the younger blonde bimbo who is present at the end (and doesn't sell him out) and finally...whenever someone moderatly important dies he screams their name dramatically (in the hope of reviving them?).
Harrison...don't get me started on Harrison. For starters he has some of the worst witty dialogue I have ever seen eg: 'I've always wanted to drive one of these' (when he finds an APC), he quite literally has 'more balls than brains' (fortunatly pointed out by the commander in the second mission) given half of the missions he takes on and finally (this is more a complaint of the game but...bear with me here) he doesn't make any effort to pry facehuggers off of himself.
Worst protaganist has to be either Leon from Resi 4 or Harrison from AVP2.
Leon by far is the most unintentionally emo character I have seen in a game, think about it...he has the haircut, laments over a long lost (previously thought dead) love while denyiny a potentially sexual offer from the younger blonde bimbo who is present at the end (and doesn't sell him out) and finally...whenever someone moderatly important dies he screams their name dramatically (in the hope of reviving them?).
Harrison...don't get me started on Harrison. For starters he has some of the worst witty dialogue I have ever seen eg: 'I've always wanted to drive one of these' (when he finds an APC), he quite literally has 'more balls than brains' (fortunatly pointed out by the commander in the second mission) given half of the missions he takes on and finally (this is more a complaint of the game but...bear with me here) he doesn't make any effort to pry facehuggers off of himself.
Squall was great for the first two discs of FF8. But by the third and fourth, he changed from a whiney emo brat (annoying but bearable) into an obsessed crazy "I must save her!" loverboy (equally annoying, but just plain wtf). And he changed in like five minutes, pretty much ruining the rest of FF8 for me.
A) Gordon Freeman does remarkably little science in the Half-Life games themselves, so your lack of scientific expertise shouldn't hinder you.Stubee said:
B) You only ever see the glasses in publicity shots, so why do they matter?
C) Facial hair cannot have a sexuality, so there's no such thing as a gay beard. There's a gay person with a beard, but that's a pretty big distinction. Also, Gordon Freeman has a goatee/mustache combo. Chuck Norris does not.
D) Neither does Gordon Freeman. The HEV suit is basically a hazmat suit that just happens to be tough enough to double as armour.
Sora for no other reason then he doesnt fit the idea of a "chosen one" when compared to other kick arse characters in that game
Also any protaginist that is supposedly a civillian or somthing. Suddenly they know who to fire a gun with great accuracy etc hmmmmm yea about that....
He's a plumber because of all the pipes. Peach isn't in to Mario, Mario's in to Peach. Why else would he tolerate the laughably poor security of her kingdom so many times?huntedannoyed said:
Of course, he not a very good protagonist. Like you said, but Mario games don't really have a story so I don't care.
I actually liked final fantasy eight, and I never had a problem with squall, aside from his fashion sense. The character shift from this is my job to this is my passion that people cite as a jarring problem can be, but only if you fail to immerse yourself in the game, if you let yourself fall into the minds of the characters then you get the concept that motivations aside, he's going to go off and save the chick for two reasons- One: You don't know what you have until it's gone and Two: When you have no overwhelming motive in your life, you pursue the most obvious and immediate quest offered to you.
That said I also loved Halo for the plot so maybe I'm thinking differently than most. A bad protagonist in my mind isn't someone with seemingly inconsistent behavior, it's one that doesn't let me get inside their head. And the worst people for this were the main character from prince of persia, Nero from DMC4, and the main character from FFXII. Also what's with the hate on Fenix? I don't follow it.
That said I also loved Halo for the plot so maybe I'm thinking differently than most. A bad protagonist in my mind isn't someone with seemingly inconsistent behavior, it's one that doesn't let me get inside their head. And the worst people for this were the main character from prince of persia, Nero from DMC4, and the main character from FFXII. Also what's with the hate on Fenix? I don't follow it.
Guess I'm the only person here who liked Squall. What pissed me off in FF8 wasn't him, but Rinoa (Dude, the guy doesn't like you, or anyone else, SHUT THE HELL UP.) He didn't see the need in depending on other people, or even being around them unless it was necessary. Seeing how people are in general, I kind of agree. When the others are all yelling at him to open up, how's that supposed to actually help him do that? Blargh. I think Rinoa's probably far worse than Squall ever was. "The princess is having a nap!" "Oh, Rinoa's gone, AGAIN." "Hey, I'll give a Sorceress this bangle that will supress her powers! Even though everyone knows this brand, she might not, yay this is a great idea!" Stupid bint. I lost her in space once and didn't regret it. XD;
As for my vote, I'm throwing my penny in for the nameless protagonist from "Baroque". Yep, it was already a good indication that the protagonist was called "protagonist" had no memory, no voice and movement issues up the wazoo. Then there was that random part at the bottom of the Neuro tower where he suddenly starts talking about resetting the world and .. well, that whole game was just awful.
As for my vote, I'm throwing my penny in for the nameless protagonist from "Baroque". Yep, it was already a good indication that the protagonist was called "protagonist" had no memory, no voice and movement issues up the wazoo. Then there was that random part at the bottom of the Neuro tower where he suddenly starts talking about resetting the world and .. well, that whole game was just awful.
I think it's the relatively poor voice acting, although to me it made his character more believable.islagatt said:
See he's a jock, not socially adept but popular for whatever he has that makes him a jock (probably lots of money and an expensive car, considering the size and location of his fathers house).
The "poor voice acting" is fightin' words, seeing as that actor [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0224007/] also played Bender and General Grievous.Eldritch Warlord said:
My personal theory is that all the Gears are steroided-out to the brink of brain failure so that they have the muscle mass necessary to carry all that armour, which would explain the bad attitudes and inane dialog.
-- Steve
You're right Steve.
I didn't think Fenix had bad voice acting, I thought it was excellently in character. I was giving that as a reason for people not liking him (because I've heard "Gearz guy talkd bad!!!!!!!!!11" a lot of places).
I didn't think Fenix had bad voice acting, I thought it was excellently in character. I was giving that as a reason for people not liking him (because I've heard "Gearz guy talkd bad!!!!!!!!!11" a lot of places).
Bioshock - the complete lack of knowledge you're given as to who you are or why you're there irritated, not intrigued, me. So I agree on that one.
But my biggest choice - and a really obvious one right now I'd say - would be Batman. How come he's hardly been mentioned? The vast majority of Batman games are either dull as ditchwater or appalling, and Batman's physicality doesn't help. He might look cool in comics, but black capes on black backgrounds are just dull, no matter how hard you try to give them an "authentic" feel.
(Note I don't think the same is true of the two most recent films, especially "Dark Knight", which IMO was pretty damn awesome.)
But my biggest choice - and a really obvious one right now I'd say - would be Batman. How come he's hardly been mentioned? The vast majority of Batman games are either dull as ditchwater or appalling, and Batman's physicality doesn't help. He might look cool in comics, but black capes on black backgrounds are just dull, no matter how hard you try to give them an "authentic" feel.
(Note I don't think the same is true of the two most recent films, especially "Dark Knight", which IMO was pretty damn awesome.)
