I'm guessing it's because it's on the Xbox 360. I heard the PS3 and PC graphics would be way better.ChupathingyX said:
Worst Skyrim Gameplay commentary EVER!
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oooooohhh yea the zombie thing!! that looks sweet, I wonder if you can do it to other things owww I hope so, I dislike the fact TES games didn't really let you dive into the necromancy art, considering its a big thing in each game.
Here's a piece of advice.Arina Love said:
If the idea you wish to convey is not 'This thing is not an X' then nonironically saying 'This thing is not an X' is the absolute worst way to convey that message. You said 'This is not magic.' Thusly, your presented opinion is that it is not magic.
I never said it wasn't a different magic system. It is. It obviously is. But that's not important to the game trailer nor the journalism involved. What is important is that they are seeing some cool use of some ice magic, and hey, look at what it does. Whether it ties into the spell system or not is immaterial to that reporting.
when i said it's not magic i meant it's not magic system, and you tried to tie in with real word i know that ice shouting is not natural so do the dragons but i don't talk about nature of dragons or shouts i talk about basic game mechanics. and it's is relevant because if you going to discuss footage and there is INFORMATION on this footage you must as journalist familiarize yourself with this information to KNOW what you are talking about. IF there where no interview then it was totally fine but when it's there there is NO EXCUSE for that sort of poor job.DracoSuave said:
Yeah, get over yourself. Not every game journalist has time to play every single game that is released so maybe they haven't played Oblivion.Popadoo said:
Welp.
He wasn't dual weilding anything when they said he was.
The 'magic spell' was a dragon shout. Not a generic frost spell.
I'm pretty sure the tree thing was the new version of the spriggan, not 100% sure it may be a dryad or something.
Those are pretty easy mistakes to make. Except for the dual weild one perhaps. He pretty clearly only had one weapon and no spell equipped.
I thought the video itself wasn't great either. The first minute or so was just a dude being boring and using the same freaking shout over and over again, which really makes the combat look boring.
The new stuff we saw, like resurrecting things and some more varieties of dragon, was good.
Quality ain't great either, but I think you can still tell that the graphics are gonna be sweet.
He wasn't dual weilding anything when they said he was.
The 'magic spell' was a dragon shout. Not a generic frost spell.
I'm pretty sure the tree thing was the new version of the spriggan, not 100% sure it may be a dryad or something.
Those are pretty easy mistakes to make. Except for the dual weild one perhaps. He pretty clearly only had one weapon and no spell equipped.
I thought the video itself wasn't great either. The first minute or so was just a dude being boring and using the same freaking shout over and over again, which really makes the combat look boring.
The new stuff we saw, like resurrecting things and some more varieties of dragon, was good.
Quality ain't great either, but I think you can still tell that the graphics are gonna be sweet.
thing is they don't even have to play game there is plenty very compressed info on net to learn about this stuff. AS well as there is deep information about footage they where talking about interview is 11 minutes long in total how lazy can you be to not watch it. it's basic work ethic to research things that you going to talk about. They did a sloppy job.UmJammerSully said:
Oh I was just watching this on youtube. It's not all that bad. Besides, the gameplay itself more than makes up for it
Meh. Seemed fine to me. It sounded like two guys who had either only a casual interest in TES prior to this or no real experience at all. That's fine by me. On the contrary, I'm happy for that: it means Skyrim is appealing to new players.Dylan Blackler said:
Well...yeah. Mate, I'm not gonna lie: I can't begin to count the number of hours I spent with Oblivion (to say nothing of Morrowind), and I normally have a really good memory when it comes to games, but I have no problem admitting that I forgot that they were called 'Spriggan.' They didn't appear all that often to begin with, 'dryad' is a more common name anyway, and the last Elder Scrolls game was five years ago.Dylan Blackler said:
Same goes for the Shouts: I instinctively call the fuel-source of magical-seeming ability in games mana even when it has a specific name, because it's what I'm used to. And frankly, I don't blame seemingly new players for calling Shouts 'magic,' especially when I'm quite sure that they are related to magic.
Dude...you gleefully said that you "...hope they get strung up and shot." You even added a little smiley face after it. Normally when someone calls for lynching, they aren't the one who complains that things are getting out of hand when people react poorly.Dylan Blackler said:
Ah, there we go. I'll stand by that statement.DracoSuave said:
You seem to be the only one who sees this as a problem. Maybe they haven't played previous Elder Scrolls games, and Skyrim is their first experience with it. Even then, they acknowledged Shouts by name, even if they didn't pick up on the rather subtle difference of Shout-use versus regular magic-use being that you can see your character's hand in the latter and not the former.Dylan Blackler said:
And what surprised me about your spriggan complaint was that these spriggan look a lot different from previous spriggan. The ones in Oblivion looked like there were still humans underneath the leaves and whatnot, and these new ones look more like the living trees from Shivering Isles poured into a human shape than anything else.
I not seeing the issue. Yeah, they got a few facts wrong, so what? They weren't all that funny, sure, but neither are most commentators. I don't see what makes them any other personality-less "games journalist". Besides, I don't know what those "tree-people" are called either.
That's all well and good in theory, but how is this specific instance unreasonable? They didn't remember the name of a dramatically redesigned enemy from a game series whose last installment was five years ago. And that enemy didn't appear all that often, nor was it terribly memorable.Arina Love said:
And no, they're not being 'lazy.' They clearly did the legwork on research, and you can see the talking points come up in synch with the video. Just because they improvised lines doesn't make it a bad preview. On the contrary, improv was a key part of it. Did you think they were reading this off cue cards? They make a list of things to remember to talk about, maybe some indicator of when certain scenes in the video will come up, and they deliver it however they choose. Properly done Powerpoint shows work the same way: they don't provide you with a script. They provide you with prompts of what topic to talk about and roughly when in your presentation you should talk about it.
yea I just always wanted to say that "...hope they get strung up and shot." line, I have no idea why >.<
This is why they need to bring people who worked on the game in for interviews when showing footage like that. If somebody who actually knew what they were talking about had been commenting on the events taking place it would have been much better. It burns me to think that there are people who take those two guys seriously and will probably think Skyrim isn't any good based on their shitty representation of it.
He was only talking about dual wielding in the context of being able to sling magic with your left hand while still having a weapon in your right...which for all intents and purposes, he was doing at the time, albeit with Shouts.someonehairy-ish said:
I just got this hilarious mental image of a hipster in the Elder Scrolls universe:someonehairy-ish said:
"Oh, that was impressive, if you're into generic frost spells. I'm only using Dragon Shouts."
Nothing against you, mate, just a thought that came to me. But more to the point, I think when someone is only watching the gameplay footage and not playing for themselves, mixing up the magical elemental destruction associated with magic and the magical elemental destruction associated with Dragon Shouts is an excusable mistake.
Looked like it. It certainly didn't look like the Oblivion spriggan. And I looked up the name/appearance, so now I can say with a bit more certainty that it looked aesthetically more like a gnarl out of Shivering Isles than a spriggan.someonehairy-ish said:
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Again, weapon being drawn and staying drawn/visible while using simultaneously magic seems pretty indistinguishable from dual wielding. The only physical difference is that the character's hand isn't present, but honestly? This is a Bethesda game. At first glance, it could easily just be mistaken for a temporarily missing animation.
My thoughts exactly. I have no clue what those tree people are, either. The commentary was fine. Just seemed like two normal guys discussing it.BLAHwhatever said:
But if they're journalists I guess they should've been better informed as to what shouts are as opposed to ice spells. But honestly, c'mon, guys, seriously? It was fine. I'm excited for the game.
I apologize for not playing every Elder Scrolls game in it's entirety about a hundred times and memorizing everything in the game. Truly, I am.
Anyway, game looks awesome. The zombie chicken was beastly. Combat still looks sorta rubbish, but hey, that's not why I'm here. And it's serviceable, I suppose.
Good stuff.
...yeah, that's an urge you should probably resist. It's not a metaphor I've ever heard, and all it does is make you seem rather loony when you start shaking your head at how out of hand the thread has gotten.Dylan Blackler said:
Also, actually quoting the person you reply to helps with, y'know, them knowing that you replied, not the least of which being because that's the only way notifications get sent.
If you go to game trailers they have a whole 20 minute showcase on the thing.believer258 said:
heres the link http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/137?ch=1
OT: These guys really weren't too observant.