Would Anyone Like To Explain What The Fuck This Is?!

[O maestre]

this just made my list of dumbest things i have heard all year. it seems like an obvious cash in

 

[red the fister]

2. They aren't violating Freedom of Religion....at all. Not even close. In fact, the only reason I bring it up is because...

They may not be violating it outright, but they're doing their best to bend it as far as possible.

Leaving out the fact that Halloween IS already Christianized and they are, therefore, Christianizing their own holiday, what they're doing here is trying to cover up a perfectly valid holiday with their own bastardized version in the hopes that people will forget about Halloween.

Just like All Hallows was forgotten, and Samhain before that.

This is just typical Christian (Yes, generalized) insecurity and paranoia coming to the forefront of some overzealous pastors mind.
He hopes that, by stomping out a holiday which he believes is against God in some way, he can bring Christianity to the non-believers.

I'm also going to say this right now, and believe that anyone with a modicum of faith in their religion/belief will feel the same: If some religious zealot waltzes up to me, and explains why my beliefs are wrong, and that I should convert, I'm going to do everything in my power not to punch him out-cold. Regardless of which religion he/she/they follow.

I understand religious freedom, I really do, but it should not be legal for followers of any religion to go about trying to convert anyone they find to their own belief system.
They don't do it for any of the right reasons, they do it specifically to destroy religions outside their own.

but, you see, Converting the unbelievers is a central tenet of Christianity, and of Islam. and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day of Judaism.
so making a law saying that they can't try to convert us would violate their religious freedom.


BUZ vinessio

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Why can't Christians leave anything alone? Actually, it's kinda weird; I used to be Christian and we liked Halloween. We embraced all the horror and scary bits because it was an appropriate time to do so. But now!! They need to make it politically correct. If my little cousins gets a bible when I take them to get sugar-high inducing snackies I will punch someone in the face!!

Interesting thing about that: I live smack dab in the middle of the bible belt, and I have yet to see anyone handing out bibles. Chick tracts buried in large bags of really good candy, yes, but not bibles. Incidentally, Chick tracts just aren't as entertaining as they were in the 80's; I think someone else is writing them now, because instead of talking about things like how D&D will turn you into a witch and that will in turn send you to hell, they're more about basic mainstream Christian things like how suicide is a one way ticket to hell. I found one in one of my classrooms today[footnote]at my university, we have a resident population of fundamentalists, including the occasional street preacher; going to class often reminds me of the free roam parts of the first Assassin's Creed, and I have to keep reminding myself that I don't have a wrist blade XD[/footnote], and I was highly disappointed when I found out it was about suicide and not why, say, the Navi from Avatar were somehow avatars of the devil.

 

[rutger5000]

This is freedom of religion a bunch of (in my opinion) too fanatic christians who want to make their own fun. All fine by me, let them celebrate the way they like. Don't blow this out of proportion. If their actions start bothering people, then the people they are bothering should stand up for themselves and make them stop.

 

[k-ossuburb]

Wow, someone is seriously late jumping on the bandwagon here.

 

[Alexey Nikodimov]

I guess Japanese could be an example on dealing with such situations. Shinto, Buddhism, Christianity - they go where the fun is today.

 

[Duruznik]

How is one religious group's decision to have and promote a separate, sanitized (i.e. boring) version of a holiday violating Freedom of Religion?

Oh right, it isn't. Either you posted the wrong article, or I've slipped into an alternate reality where "Freedom of Religion" means "everyone has to respect my religion".

Or maybe it's opposite day? It's either one of those or you're exactly what you seem to be angry about. Either way, the U.S. Constitution says you can "QQ MOAR PLZ", because it's their right to have, promote, and observe boring holidays.

Yeah, I have to agree with this. Why is this infringing on your rights again? They're doing their own thing, not stopping you from celebrating Haloween how you see fit. They're allowed.

 

[Elsarild]

Well christians have been stealing pagan holidays for a looooooong time, don't know why it would stop them now.

 

[Superior Mind]

Ahh militant Christians, still annoyed that they didn't get onto the Autumn festival fast enough to turn it into a religious holiday. They took Saturnalia, why do they need anything else?

In NZ Halloween passes pretty much without recognition, (although it's my Dad's birthday.) Still, it's a secular and harmless fun holiday - so of course what could be more damaging to society's moral compass. I remember the local church in the town I grew up organising a "Saints and Angels" party for all the kids to clash with Halloween. How lame would your parents be if they forced you to go to that? I, meanwhile, dressed as an alien and did magic tricks for the people in the houses I demanded candy from, (which meant they gave me more!)

If any Jesus-weeners come to my house 'trick-or-treating' or whatever they want to call it, I will give them a boiled egg each. That's what they deserve. If you're going to be boring you get boring Whatever-ween 'treats'.

 

[AngloDoom]

The fuck? Halloween is my birthday, I think there is enough madness on the 31st anyway.

Does Jesus need to be in everything? I'm sorry, Jesus is EVERY holiday, apparently.

Pretty much this. The guy already has the whole world come to his birthday-party and mourn his death, do we really need to promote his book by lobbing it at children?

 

[Jimmybobjr]

"What the fuck is this?!"

Christianity attempting to shove its way into other cultures in order to get more followers, and from that, more money in donations and bribes.

Yeah, i hate religion.

 

[silent_noir_67]

And this bullshit is what makes me hate America.

lol and it's started by a Canadian...

And I don't see the problem with it, it's just going to be marketed as an "alternative" to halloween...no police are going to break down your door and MAKE you celebrate it. I doubt that many people are going to jump on the bandwagon anways. No big deal.

 

[harvz]

I'm aussie and that's messed up.
All i know is that 90% of the people who are handing out bibles will either be hospitalized or at least be cleaning their houses for the next week.

 

[Pinkamena]

Jesusify ALL the things!
But yeah. That's just silly.

 

[Doclector]

I'm not saying they don't have a right to celebrate halloween how they see fit, but seriously, if it's that offensive to christians, they could just, y'know, ignore it. I mean, it's one thing for christian families to do something else on the 31st, but altogether another to organise an entire alternate event and encourage people to do that instead of halloween, I'm sure it won't actually replace halloween, after all, there's probably a good few christians who see this as just as absurd as a lot of us do, but if a festival doesn't involve jesus, then surely it's not all that appropriate to try and involve jesus in it?

 

[Mathak]

Jesusify ALL the things!
But yeah. That's just silly.

When noone was looking, Fred Phelps jesusified 40 holidays. He jesusified 40. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

 

[DonMartin]

Hahaha.



Jesusween.

 

[lRookiel]

Learn to laugh this stuff off.

Your life will be all the easier and happier for it.

Trust me on that one. It is silly when you really look at it.

So True, laughing at these kinds of things is the right way to go about it.

OT:

People should have noticed that Christianity isn't exactly as strong as it used to be, less and less people are going to church every day and more people are not bothering with religion anymore, this is probably some silly stunt they pulled to try and invade yet another holiday and boost their numbers.

What do I think about it? its just funny.

 

[Psychedelic Spartan]

Come to Australia mate, we don't even do Halloween properly.

Really? What do you do?

 

[Zyxx]

You know what bothers me most about this? It's not the bastardized holiday thing: people are always trying to make each other unhappy. I remember a time when it didn't effing matter whether you said "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" or "Have a nice vacation", people said "thanks" and that was that. In this particularly stupid case, the few people who actually follow through on it will probably stop after the third or four year without a single child visiting their homes. It's not really worth getting upset about.

No, what bothers me most is the name. "Jesus Ween"? Seriously? That doesn't say "holiday"; it makes me think of some kind of quest to hunt down Christ's holy foreskin (which, scarily enough, is actually a thing people have tried to do. Look, I'm Catholic, relics and reliquaries are kind of a thing with us, but an infant's severed prepuce, no matter how holy, is taking things a bit far.)