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tehweave

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I'm restarting my account for a month and need two suggestions:
What professions/talents should I go with for a Rogue and a Hunter?

I'm thinking mining/engineer for the rogue and leatherworking/skinning for the hunter. Any better suggestions and ideas for the talents I should use?

(I like instancing and raiding, and to a much lesser extent, PVP. I know having a rogue and NOT doing PVP is a bad idea, but I like the rogue as a class and have a lot of fun with it despite not liking PVP.)
 

Domou

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LW and Skinning would be good for both, actually, even though there's not much money to be made compared to the other professions. The armour you can craft for yourself is quite good, though, once you get in the higher levels. I don't have any mining/eng toons, so I dunno 'bout that for a Rogue. <:
 

Loop Stricken

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If you're a minmaxer, BS/JC.
If you're just after things to level as an aside then, engineering is fun yes, but herbalism/alchemy means you won't have to rely on others for flasks and transmutes.
 

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tehweave said:
I'm restarting my account for a month and need two suggestions:
What professions/talents should I go with for a Rogue and a Hunter?
I highly recommend engineering for either class, especially if you will be instancing. Both classes have mechanics which allow them to survive a situation that would wipe the party, engineering gives you an item that allows you to resurrect people outside of combat, and healers just love it when the ass rogue/hunter who avoided the run-of-shame saves everyone time by bringing back a rezzer.

edit: I played mainly as a healer in my 4 year stint in WoW-Prison, and I knew a lot of rogues and a lot of hunters. There are two kinds, smart and dumb. If you have engineering and can rez people, you're automatically in the smart column, and you WILL get friended by healers for being useful. This is the easiest way to get into a group, being friends with the healer. That means when they're putting a group together and need dps, they'll ask you first before picking up some random 'tards.

Also, engineering toys are just bloody awesome.

edit2: You can build exploding sheep. Endofdiscussion.

Any better suggestions and ideas for the talents I should use?
It's been years since either of those classes were my main class, but for leveling purposes combat spec is fastest for the rogue, and Beast Mastery is the spec of choice for leveling hunters. For what builds are best for end-game, read up on
http://elitistjerks.com/forums.php#class_mechanics

These people here are your best friends on how not to be a shitty player.
 

sdafdfhrye3245

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ROGUES FTW also unless you have a lot of money dont get a crafting one get 2 gathering ones like mining and herb or something
 

Moriarty

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Loop Stricken said:
If you're a minmaxer, BS/JC.
nah, nothing can beat engineering dps wise as long as you keep spamming bombs

ontopic: you gotta drop the gathering professions as soon as you reach the level cap, because they don't give as much boni as the crafting professions.
 

Ghostkai

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Loop Stricken said:
If you're a minmaxer, BS/JC.
Min/maxing for a rogue is Engi/JC. Though, I don't know about Huntards though.
http://shadowpanther.net/professions.htm

tehweave said:
I'm restarting my account for a month and need two suggestions:
What professions/talents should I go with for a Rogue and a Hunter?

I'm thinking mining/engineer for the rogue and leatherworking/skinning for the hunter. Any better suggestions and ideas for the talents I should use?

(I like instancing and raiding, and to a much lesser extent, PVP. I know having a rogue and NOT doing PVP is a bad idea, but I like the rogue as a class and have a lot of fun with it despite not liking PVP.)
((ASSUMING your level 80.))If your going with a rogue, go with Mutilate or Combat for PVE. Best profession for rogue is Engineering, haste boost from gloves and bombs (go goblin)

(Slow MH/Fast OH)Ruptureless Mut build :
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#f0ec0egoVboIuVo0xV0xcZb:ITpVcm

(Slow MH/Fast OH) Ruptureless Combat build :
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#fhg00tLZMgVo0cxqru0xRt:hNkVcm

On both builds you want Instant poison on Main hand, Deadly poison on Off hand.

If you wanna PVP, erm, rogues are kinda weak atm. But if you insist (bg's are still fun) then I highly recommend the following spec:

(Slow MH/Fast OH) Mutilate Prep build:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#f0ecoIgoiroMuZ0LZebfb0hzb:TGiVzm

For this build use Wound poison on Main Hand and Deadly on Off Hand.


Phew, hope that helped :)
 

Ghostkai

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Haakong said:
Ghostkai said:
If you wanna PVP, erm, rogues are kinda weak atm.
far from. we can oneshot almost everything except healers, cause lets face it, healers are out of control atm :D
Right, and who are you one shotting? Naked people?

Seriously though, we're not too bad in bg's if used right, but one shotting? That hasn't existed since vanilla (unless their gear is really THAT bad and your well geared, and you get beserker buff and crit lucky :p).

I've 2 shotted very bad geared players (with spambush :p), but 1 shot? Not unless they're a lower level.

Check wow-census, the rogue popoulation is laughably low. Dramatic drop in the last 6 months. Theres a reason for that sadly, Arena players don't want to use rogues.
 

Draithx

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Rogue's are weak in high-end arena atm. All the good comps they can play need a good caster to get anywhere and those casters can easily drop the rogue for another caster and get much higher rating more easily.
 

WaysideMaze

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Id say sack the leatherworking. Just get skinning and mining, you'll be able to make a fortune. I tried leatherworking and skinning, and usually found, or bought better armour.

2 gathering professions is good for the lower levels. You'll need money, this is the best way to get it.

Get a crafting profession later once you've set yourself up with a nice income.

EDIT: Just actually bothered to read proper, and you aint low level. Ignore everything I just said.
 

Gerhardt

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Engineering will be a good pick for either class, though I would lean towards rogue (rocket boots are the shit.) At the moment, the best leveling spec for rogue is combat. It's a spec that doesn't overly rely on being stealthed/behind your target, so it give you some more room when you're soloing.

Keep in mind also that Cataclysm is coming 'soon' and that it will include some new race/class combinations. Humans and undead are getting hunter, elves are getting warrior, and there will be dwarf shamans... don't ask me how that works.

Rogues are still the top anti-warlock weaponry to use in PVP, but since you won't be in PVP all that much, it's not something you have to worry about. Also, rogue is very viable in PVE. A good rogue will easily top the damage meters in the new raiding content.
 

technoted

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Well my Huntard is a LW/Skin and my Rogue a Mining/Engi and it worked out well for them, you can even help the chars out with gear that way as a nice bonus.
 

Ghostkai

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Haakong said:
you clearly dont stack arp :D
Of course I do :p

Just never taken down anyone in shot other than underleveled/undergeared people who have no place in arena/battlegrounds/world pvp.

I don't really count them, as they aren't the majority nowadays, they're few and far between, so you can't really claim it's "most people besides healers" :p

Again, arena consensus backs me up for Rogue's popularity falling dramatically. You can't deny they pretty much aren't in demand for high end arena now. (For now, I might add)
 

brunt32

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If your leveling get them both Gathering Progession
If your at Endgame go JC/BS on your main
And on your alt go Tailoring and Alchhemy
 

Yureina

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My rogue was an Herb/Inscriptionist, and so was my second largest moneymaker with about 136kg (22% of the total) to their name. But, that was an alt (still an important one) so I cared little about the whole min/maxing business.

I will say though that Engineering smells funny. I never liked it when I played, and I found very little use for it except for sucking up funds that could have been better used to invest in my mammoth Glyph or Gem industries.

All depends on your priorities. :)
 

tehweave

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Ghostkai said:
Loop Stricken said:
If you're a minmaxer, BS/JC.
Min/maxing for a rogue is Engi/JC. Though, I don't know about Huntards though.
http://shadowpanther.net/professions.htm

tehweave said:
I'm restarting my account for a month and need two suggestions:
What professions/talents should I go with for a Rogue and a Hunter?

I'm thinking mining/engineer for the rogue and leatherworking/skinning for the hunter. Any better suggestions and ideas for the talents I should use?

(I like instancing and raiding, and to a much lesser extent, PVP. I know having a rogue and NOT doing PVP is a bad idea, but I like the rogue as a class and have a lot of fun with it despite not liking PVP.)
((ASSUMING your level 80.))If your going with a rogue, go with Mutilate or Combat for PVE. Best profession for rogue is Engineering, haste boost from gloves and bombs (go goblin)

(Slow MH/Fast OH)Ruptureless Mut build :
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#f0ec0egoVboIuVo0xV0xcZb:ITpVcm

(Slow MH/Fast OH) Ruptureless Combat build :
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#fhg00tLZMgVo0cxqru0xRt:hNkVcm

On both builds you want Instant poison on Main hand, Deadly poison on Off hand.

If you wanna PVP, erm, rogues are kinda weak atm. But if you insist (bg's are still fun) then I highly recommend the following spec:

(Slow MH/Fast OH) Mutilate Prep build:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#f0ecoIgoiroMuZ0LZebfb0hzb:TGiVzm

For this build use Wound poison on Main Hand and Deadly on Off Hand.


Phew, hope that helped :)
This is very helpful, and thank you all. I'm doing some powerleveling on my rogue (hunter is the 80, and I'm switching his professions to skin/leather from alch/herb) and just doing two gathering professions (mining/skin) for now (get my gold flow back up), but once I get him to a high enough level, I'll start with engineering. Combat (from what I remember) is good for leveling, but I might switch to mutilate when I start raiding.

Once again, thanks for the help!
 

Kagim

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Only advise i can give is to switch the professions around. Go Engineering on the Hunter to give him access to free guns and advanced ammo.

Outside of that My only raid level character is My old Holy Priest so i can't help you with talents.
 

slipknot4

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tehweave said:
(I like instancing and raiding, and to a much lesser extent
The Stat bonus from Skinning and Mining is rather good.
Skinning:
Master of Anatomy
Passive
Skinning all those dead animals has broadened your anatomical knowledge, increasing your critical strike rating by 40.

Minning:
Toughness
Passive
All your hard work spent mining has made you exceptionally tough, increasing your Stamina by 60.