Hi there. I'm a white male[footnote]and fully aware of all the social benefits of the genetics that made my skin what colour it is are. I know. [https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/responsive/cover/main/desktop/2015/08/03/635742384244128548732660208_check-your-privilege-300x271.imgopt1000x70.jpg][/footnote] with a thing for video games, novels and movies. I like stories. I like writing.
Yup, that introduction makes me cringe too, but its not one of those kind of posts. I'd rather lets just talk about stuff. Its been on my brain and I won't shy away from putting this on OT. Let's crack on then.
I would like to write outside of my box more. Race, gender, sexual preferences... Whoever the main characters are or aren't doesn't matter if its a good story right? That's what I believe...
Talking with a friend of a friend about a story idea, I mentioned that I was wanting to write a story from the perspective of a disenfranchised Moroccan in a future society and he told me to write to my strengths, and write white. We had a spirited discussion but ultimately we parted ways with him saying I do not know what its like to live with darker skin, so how could I justify myself writing a character like that? Making up a race and a new world to work inside was one of his suggestions but I don't see it for this project.
I've been thinking about that conversation for a while now. Why should I have that apprehension to write outside of my own experiences? Context for the story aside, how tied is the author's personal identity to that of their project?
Some books I have read never describe the race of the protagonist, because it may be entirely irrelevant to the tale. What if its not a story tied to skin colour in anyway but you want to make a point of specifying it? It seems a taboo topic and the push back this person had to the idea of me writing with that voice was disconcerting.
This all comes back to my own creative process I suppose, I just hate defaulting to my own race as protagonist/antagonist for every story I imagine. Its a box and I live in a very multicultural North America.
I think that if you do genuine research about cultural relations and make it make sense within your written word, you shouldn't shy away from it. Game of Thrones is full of different ethnic groups portrayed in a fantasy environment. Strangers in Paradise [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_in_Paradise] is a graphic novel series seen from the perspective of women as written by a man.
Race and gender relations are a difficult topic, and I understand that, but if we dodge the existence of them or make creatives work only within their own experiences; we're limiting the well from which a writer can draw.
This is not an argument for free license to be insensitive. If I write from another voice and it uses too many stereotypes or genuinely hurts someone, I want to be called out on that. Research, and not just four hours on wikipedia, should help avoid most of that but humans are imperfect creatures and inevitably not everyone is going to feel satisfied with the end result of someone writing out of their comfort zone.
It took some words to go through it all but I guess what I want to ask you all is...
What are your thoughts on someone writing in a voice totally removed from their own personal identity?
How deep must the research go before a writer can arguably say it was in depth?[[footnote](Did George RR Martin speak with the current Little Person community as research or did he read extensively about how dwarfs were treated in Medieval society? I honestly do not know what he did in preparation for his books.)[/footnote]
When does the creator's personal heritage vanish from how you perceive your media?
I have a genuine interest in what your thoughts are on this. I do not have an interest in seeing any racial rants or angry arguing over other posts. Civility would be greatly appreciated but I'll hold my finger over the trigger to lock this if it becomes a circus.
TL;DR: Redlin was up writing waaaaaaay too late, started dwelling over his character biographies and whether it was right or wrong to hesitate writing multi-ethnic roles in his story when he himself is whiter than sour cream. [http://24.media.tumblr.com/f33de368cbc1bbee18e1bfcb72af5058/tumblr_mmss11Vpaa1qciesyo1_400.gif]
Yup, that introduction makes me cringe too, but its not one of those kind of posts. I'd rather lets just talk about stuff. Its been on my brain and I won't shy away from putting this on OT. Let's crack on then.
I would like to write outside of my box more. Race, gender, sexual preferences... Whoever the main characters are or aren't doesn't matter if its a good story right? That's what I believe...
Talking with a friend of a friend about a story idea, I mentioned that I was wanting to write a story from the perspective of a disenfranchised Moroccan in a future society and he told me to write to my strengths, and write white. We had a spirited discussion but ultimately we parted ways with him saying I do not know what its like to live with darker skin, so how could I justify myself writing a character like that? Making up a race and a new world to work inside was one of his suggestions but I don't see it for this project.
I've been thinking about that conversation for a while now. Why should I have that apprehension to write outside of my own experiences? Context for the story aside, how tied is the author's personal identity to that of their project?
Some books I have read never describe the race of the protagonist, because it may be entirely irrelevant to the tale. What if its not a story tied to skin colour in anyway but you want to make a point of specifying it? It seems a taboo topic and the push back this person had to the idea of me writing with that voice was disconcerting.
This all comes back to my own creative process I suppose, I just hate defaulting to my own race as protagonist/antagonist for every story I imagine. Its a box and I live in a very multicultural North America.
I think that if you do genuine research about cultural relations and make it make sense within your written word, you shouldn't shy away from it. Game of Thrones is full of different ethnic groups portrayed in a fantasy environment. Strangers in Paradise [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_in_Paradise] is a graphic novel series seen from the perspective of women as written by a man.
Race and gender relations are a difficult topic, and I understand that, but if we dodge the existence of them or make creatives work only within their own experiences; we're limiting the well from which a writer can draw.
This is not an argument for free license to be insensitive. If I write from another voice and it uses too many stereotypes or genuinely hurts someone, I want to be called out on that. Research, and not just four hours on wikipedia, should help avoid most of that but humans are imperfect creatures and inevitably not everyone is going to feel satisfied with the end result of someone writing out of their comfort zone.
It took some words to go through it all but I guess what I want to ask you all is...
What are your thoughts on someone writing in a voice totally removed from their own personal identity?
How deep must the research go before a writer can arguably say it was in depth?[[footnote](Did George RR Martin speak with the current Little Person community as research or did he read extensively about how dwarfs were treated in Medieval society? I honestly do not know what he did in preparation for his books.)[/footnote]
When does the creator's personal heritage vanish from how you perceive your media?
I have a genuine interest in what your thoughts are on this. I do not have an interest in seeing any racial rants or angry arguing over other posts. Civility would be greatly appreciated but I'll hold my finger over the trigger to lock this if it becomes a circus.
TL;DR: Redlin was up writing waaaaaaay too late, started dwelling over his character biographies and whether it was right or wrong to hesitate writing multi-ethnic roles in his story when he himself is whiter than sour cream. [http://24.media.tumblr.com/f33de368cbc1bbee18e1bfcb72af5058/tumblr_mmss11Vpaa1qciesyo1_400.gif]